Favorites to win in Russia' 2018?

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Favorites to win in Russia' 2018

  1. Argentina

  2. Brazil

  3. Chile

  4. England

  5. Germany

  6. Italy

  7. France

  8. Spain

  9. Uruguay

  10. Netherlands

  11. Portugal

  12. Other

  13. Belgium

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  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Germany is a bit different than Chile.

    Chile has had a long history of losing big games to Brazil and being eliminated by them.
    It should not shock anyone if it happens again.
     
  2. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    Or France - Brazil / Turkey final pair.
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Germany-Honduras/Syria
    Final.
     
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  4. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    And USA take bronze.
     
  5. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Sure, they both can, but:
    1. Chile have a final matchday vs Brasil. Unless Brasil is feeling very gracious they will end the campaign on 26 or 27 points. That leaves them at the mercy of other teams and it doesn't look good. They may even end up 7th...

    2. Argentina play their direct competitor Peru, which has been on an upward trend winning their last three games, Even if they win that they end with Ecuador away... On current form would anyone really expect them to get more than 3 pts from the 2 games?

    That said it looks unlikely neither Argentina or Chile will end up fifth, so that means a playoff. So I expect one team not to make it, but I doubt both won't. Especially given how many teams are howering around those spots...
     
  6. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Their direct competitor is Peru, who has an even tougher schedule. Away at Argentina and home to Colombia. Even if Peru beats Colombia, all Chile needs is one point at Brazil as long as they beat at home an Ecuador that has long given up the fight.
     
  7. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    Enjoy with American player Bocanega. An defensive player in USA lineup.

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Since people are bringing up Peru...
    ...Peru has not beaten Colombia in Peru in decades. Colombia almost always seems to have a mental edge against them in their house for some reason.
    But of course there is always a first time for everything. Peru can win.
     
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Ecuador has been playing soo poorly defensively though. Really stupid and naive errors on defense and by their keeper in games I have seen. They have no confidence or tactical awareness either so that is something Argentina can take advantage of.
    Only thing they got going for them is that Argentina rarely does well at altitude.
     
  10. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    Not Germany how win next world cup but I like Germany in military one example.
     
  11. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Not Cuba how win next world cup but I like Cuba in cigars one example.
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I think Cuba can win the World Cup of sandwiches. Certainly a favorite of mine.
     
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  13. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    I like also Cuba in United States military zone.
     
  14. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    But not also in World Cup zone.
     
  15. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    And Cuba is more baseboll and boxing in Sports.
     
  16. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Cuba could win baseboll World Cup if they use pros in USA zone (not military). Pig (Dodgers) is good!
     
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  17. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    Of course. Communist Cuba is excellento in this Sports.
     
  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think Peru would be slight favorites this time just because of the situation:
    - huge match for Peru
    - probably meaningless for Colombia
    - Peru is playing better than at any other time in the last 15 years
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Even so, we are still talking about a team that Colombia mentally owns and they would like to still end the tournament on a high note and a possible (yet not likely) seed for the World Cup.
    Assuming the win against Paraguay of course.
     
  20. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    #595 condor11, Sep 25, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2017
    At one point in history Peru mentally owned Colombia....these things don't always last for eternity

    Not saying Peru will win but this team has displayed mental toughness in several matches that are not usually displayed by Peruvian teams

    It might boil down to how the team performs in Buenos Aires

    Either way if Paraguay take something from Colombia it will be a very intense game in Lima
     
  21. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    When did Peru own Colombia? I don't think this has ever happened.
     
  22. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Asked about the main rivals for the World Cup title, Tite made a point of naming several world champions, especially the European ones, but he cited - and stressed - another: Belgium.

    Tite knows a thing or 2 (two) about football ... did OK in the "hardest" qualifiers on the planet ... a very wise man, very wise indeed.
     
  23. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    the current head to head stands at

    Colombia - 21 wins
    Peru - 18 wins
    Draws - 21

    from 1938 to 1983 the head to head was
    Played 27 games
    Colombia - 5 wins
    Peru - 14 wins = 52% wins
    Draws - 8

    post 1983
    Played 33 games
    Colombia - 16 wins = 48% wins
    Peru - 4 wins
    Draws - 13

    so you could argue that till 1983 when Peru played Colombia we expected to either win or at the very least draw...losing was not very common. In fact Colombia did not win a single match from 1961 to 1975. They won in 61 and won again in 75, in between that there was 11 games were Peru recorded 5 wins and there was 6 draws

    from the 1975 Copa America to the 1983 Copa America they played each other in 7 official games (3 in Copa 75, 2 in WCQ 82, 2 in Copa 83). Peru won 4, Colombia 1. These wins also included a Final victory in Copa America 75

    The opposite occurred post 1983 where Peru started a downward spiral and Colombia eventually overtook us in the head to head
     
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  24. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Peru has really been flying high lately. Especially if Colombia qualify by the last round Peru will really like their chances.
     
  25. SwedishBorn

    SwedishBorn Red Card

    Manchester United
    Sep 20, 2017
    Is Syria and Saudi Arabia permament clear ticket to Russia ?!
     

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