Favorites to win in Russia' 2018?

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Favorites to win in Russia' 2018

  1. Argentina

  2. Brazil

  3. Chile

  4. England

  5. Germany

  6. Italy

  7. France

  8. Spain

  9. Uruguay

  10. Netherlands

  11. Portugal

  12. Other

  13. Belgium

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  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Once again they will have talent.
    But that does not always equate a Cup championship.
     
  2. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Once again, as I told you before somewhere else, not because you say so, it happens.

    You need more than that to convince others, of what you think about the issue.

    Anyhow, it's your opinion, which is perfectly valid, but doesn't constitute a fact.
     
  3. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Again as i said i dont take one fact in count but few.

    The young players in france both won in youth level and confirm now at.pro level being all in the best european clubs and still in competition for the most important trophies.

    None of.the african team you mentionned ever got that. Goal keeper defense midfields and strikers in the biggest clubs. They always had weakness.

    France is already a top 5 top 10 team now.
    1/4 final wc 2014 final euro 2016.

    But what is about to join the team is better!
     
  4. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    But i don't need to convince you i just tell you here and we will see what happen.

    It's hard to predict a single game. But this generation doesn't have one tournament to play but a decade of tournaments.

    They are coming...just as germany spain were coming.
     
  5. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Well if we take in consideration that what is happening in france looks like what happened for germany and spain..

    It looks bright.

    Now we will see.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Spain was a couple of missed shots by Robben away from not lifting up the World Cup.
    Germany was a couple of Higuain shots away from not lifting it up either.
    It is not easy to say a team will win cause the ball could bounce against them.

    But we shall see. I think they can win it if a leader steps up in the locker room and on the field.
     
  7. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    so what ?

    We, Chile, are currently 4th among the top 10, finished 2014 WC only one stage lower than France (where as a diference to France we did beat a top contender to win it all) , and also won both of last 2 Copa America's.
    Does all this background, give us any more than potential to win the WC, in the future ?
    NO, it doesn't. It's as simple as that.

    To make it even more simple, all you need to do, is to win it, when the time comes.
    No other prediction is valid, as there is no way to be positively certain that it will happen.
     
  8. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Germany isn't coming.

    They have been there all the time, almost since the existence of time, and btw, still are. Same as Brazil, Italy, Argentina and maybe France as well, with some new potential team every time.

    But as only one can win it, they can't win it all the time.
     
  9. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Again you miss factors...

    I don't see many players from Chile in the champions league contenders? Barely one.

    I don't see top players from Chile from gk to strikers either...

    But I look at the last 2 world champions Spain and Germany and i see similar facts!

    France got a decade in front.
     
  10. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    not only that, they also had a red nightmare dressed in white, along the way.....
    :sneaky:
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Colombia has three players in the Semis though. :D
     
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  12. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Ask germans themselves if they did not rebuilt their success.
    They changed their football strategy in the last 15 years to get the success they had lately.
     
  13. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #338 Rickdog, May 3, 2017
    Last edited: May 3, 2017
    exactly.
    As also said before, one thing doesn't imply the other

    In football, you don't really need to have the best players to win it all.
    All you need to do is to have the players capable of actually doing it, when the time comes...

    If you don't believe me, then ask Messi, probably the best player in the world, why he kicked the ball outside during his penalty kick take, during last Copa Centenario final match, as doing so, he gave away the chance to become champions, to the other team.

    They are always evolving.

    Actually, almost everybody whom wants to win, is.
     
  14. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    It s not exactly.
    Cause the teams or players you mentionned missed obvious factors

    But france got all the factors combined to get success in the next decade.

    They are already among the best and the players joining the team are even better.

    They got high level players in every fields of the pitch.
    The young players shining in the youth categories are already doing damages at international top clubs level.

    Mbappe will be the next Real Madrid superstar.
     
  15. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    And Croatia is represented in all semi finalists.

    But the french players shining in champions league is a factor added to others!
    Strength in every field is an other important factor!
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  17. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Mbappe is great both on and off the pitch. He wont say he is the best even though in france they know he is.

    He will be the technical leader of the team. Soon or later...
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes they are set up to win.
    But you are making it seem like it is in the bag for them to win a World Cup or Euro soon which is what a few of us are debating.
    And I think most of us come to the conclusion that they can but it won't be as easy as you think.
    They could come up just short.
     
  19. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The french team is only missing one thing.

    Their problem is that their missing link, you can't find it anywhere else, but in themselves.

    So, they can have all the best players in the world, but if they don't find what they are missing, at the end, when the time comes, as they regularly do, they will once again "flop".
    Pretty much the same thing happening to Argentina, btw.
     
  20. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Messi is a wrong example.
    Yes i don't have any doubt about them winning one at least.

    Cause the golden generation they have is also linked to the fact they are from a country that already won.
     
  21. Nicola777

    Nicola777 Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Messi never had with argentina the goalkeeper and defense France got.

    Mendy Lemar and Mbappe were the missing links.

    They are here now.
     
  22. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #347 Rickdog, May 3, 2017
    Last edited: May 3, 2017
    Quality and level of players they almost always have had, is still debatable if they had them or not. What for you is good, doesn't necesarily mean it's good for others as well. Besides, the only one whom kicked the ball out, during that Centenario final pk definition, was him (everybody else, at least, kicked it towards the goal)

    It's not lack of players what France is missing (never been, btw). It's something they already have, but since long ago, they can't let it express itself.
     
  23. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    France is improving but to me they still do not have the defense or leadership to win it all yet.
     
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  24. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    LOL ok Portugal no chance that's fair but England best strike force???? Lose in the Final Trollololol. Sure, as long as they don't run into iceland or any nation ranked in the top 15 in The World throughout the entire tourney,they should be good for the final. Pffft!
     
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  25. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I love when people forget! I'll leave this here for you:

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