ESPN reports $46m USSF Copa Centinario Profit

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  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #26 Bill Archer, Mar 16, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2017
    Furthermore, the idea that USSF should take every dollar of the profit from the Copa and spend it supporting a few thousand elite youth players is simply outrageous.

    There are two or three million registered youth players in this country. Girls too, amazingly enough. Special Olympics. Deaf soccer. Adult amateurs. More.

    And that leaves aside the fact that the Fed is coming out of pocket big time to support a women's league where most players don't make 15k a year and live in people's guest rooms.

    And that leaves aside coaching classes and referee training and field construction and urban outreach and on and on, stuff that benefits more than a thousand little Johnny Rocketlegs most of whom will never go beyond NCAA soccer


    But screw them - what we need is to blow every dime on travel and uniforms and training for a relative handfuls of kids in the hope that a half dozen of them may one day be good enough to go get rich by signing with a team in Europe

    Good plan.
     
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  2. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

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    {sigh}
     
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  3. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
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    United States
    Props to U.S. Soccer for having a "Development Fund" page specifically for supporters to pour pennies into our youth program. :rolleyes:

    Every penny counts to achieve our goal of going far in 2022!
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    ??? I don't get it. I mean, I've heard about their new sports hijab, but they're a big company. I'm sure they have a different department doing that.
    ???? Why would they do that?

    This thread has taken a deep, deep turn for the weird.
     
  5. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    With PR being so far behind on their back pay to the U.S. government alone, that someone like our Fed would make a token donation in the name of U.S.A. soccer. I thought it was funny.
     
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  6. Nuke1990

    Nuke1990 Member

    May 21, 2008
    [QUOTEThis thread has taken a deep, deep turn for the weird.[/QUOTE]

    This is the new reality of just about every thread on BigSoccer these days. Is this a feature or a bug is the question that needs to be answered.
     
  7. Bora Fan

    Bora Fan Member

    Dec 14, 1998
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    New York Red Bulls
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    Back on topic - what is interesting is that we haven't heard anything from USSF about what they plan to do with a $46m windfall that they have known about now for 7 months.

    Up until this article - there wasn't a single peep about the $46m.
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    Sporting Kansas City
    Bill explained exactly what they're going to do with it. It's not a "windfall". It's revenue. Surplus revenue gets plowed into the general fund that helps fund the multitudinous non-revenue functions of the fed.

    The answers you seek were spelled out above.
     
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  9. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
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    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
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    Jorge Wilstermann
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    Bolivia
    Nope, not volunteer run. However, not really expensive either. This year I paid $1600 total I believe. That's good for a program that keeps the kid fit, challenged and busy all year round.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    That would be too much for the parents of 95% of professional soccer players (globally).
    I take it's not a USSDA affiliated academy.
     
  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yes it is affiliated. I don't think its expensive at all. That's cheaper than just about any activity you can find for kids.
    For comparison I just checked what they have at the Y which is about as cheap as you can get.

    A two month soccer program for the same age group will cost me $115 - non member price. Only one hour of practice per week and one game. FWIW, that's pretty much what any recreational activity - soccer or otherwise would charge.

    Meanwhile, two months prorated in the DA including uniform costs plus tournaments plus three to four hours a week of practices cost me $260.

    So I get three times the practice, much better quality of training, uniforms and competition for twice the price. It's a good price any way you cut it. And yes, there are plenty of middle and lower income families there.
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's expensive if you live in South Chicago or East L.A. or the favelas of Brazil.

    I did say globally. Wayne Rooney, Carlos Tevez, Neymar, Ronaldo, Alexis Sanchez, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Luis Suarez couldn't have afforded academy fees. I'm sure somewhere in the inner city districts of the US there's a kid good enough to be the next Ronaldo.

    I know NYC FC provide scholarships for underprivileged kids, hopefully other kids do.
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    We're in the US. Brazilian poverty is irrelevant.
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    45 million Americans live in poverty, so I would say examples from other countries are relevant.

    I'm not being critical of you at all., in case you thought I was. I hope your boy has a great time in the academy and plays in college and maybe beyond but it wouldn't it be great if we could give all kids the same opportunities and spending using part of the Gold Cup profits could go a long way.
     
  16. profiled

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    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
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    The reality is a lot of kids who can't afford it get their dues paid/waived, if they are deemed good enough.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    By number, not by percentage.
     
  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Chicago and LA have MLS clubs. So no issues there if you really have talent. In the end the answer is grow the industry of professional soccer.
     
  19. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    A lot also don't...


    Blatantly false. But you're second sentence is correct.

    Generally speaking, the answer is grow the industry on the macro level. We're still responsible for proactively tackling the problem on a micro level head on.
     
  20. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have always told people that if they can show me a kid with actual athletic talent - not just someone who wishes he did - who comes from a family with no money for soccer that I can have him on a team commensurate with his talent, at no charge, within 72 hours.

    I'm genuinely sorry that we don't have the money for all 3 million youth players in the US to play free but we don't and we aren't going to.

    But it doesn't take a junior Messi to get a club to give a ride to a kid who can play.
     

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