English players Dual Nationality thread

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  1. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    If your son is half Irish or Welsh keep it quiet or he might get called up before his 15th birthday! :D
     
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  2. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Fortunately not, he’s half English, half Swedish from his mothers side.
     
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  3. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Isn’t Sweden near Ireland though? Has he ever drunk a pint of Guinness or listened to Westlife? Martin O’Neill is asking for a friend...
     
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  4. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't think Rice is better than Dier based on what I've seen.
     
  5. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    That's exactly the issue I have, based on what I've seen. His strengths and weaknesses seem quite similar to Dier's - he's intelligent at sniffing out danger and effectively being a defender in midfield, and he's quite a powerful physical player, but he's nothing special on the ball. If anything, I think Dier is the better passer. Maybe age is a factor but is that really the kind of thing that he's going to improve on dramatically at this point? If not, what is there to get excited about?
     
  6. Athlone

    Athlone Member+

    Feb 2, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    That's not really the best thing for players, though, who one could contend are better off having the chance of getting international exposure somewhere else if their career with their U-21 nation doesn't pan out and they are still actually good enough to help a different national side.

    You could also argue that the game benefits from this as well, since it allows for a spread of talent that improves nations who otherwise wouldn't have access to it. That raises the level of talent available to nations as a whole and arguably creates a more even game with better competition globally.

    Take a guy like Justin Hoyte, for example: a regular England youth international in his day and a good one at that. He was never going to play for England seniors. Rather than not contribute at the international level at all, he goes to represent his ancestral Trinidad. He gets a couple dozen games to be a senior international, Trinidad gets a quality player they otherwise wouldn't have access to, and England could care less. Everyone wins.

    I get that there are more controversial cases than that, but I'd argue that most dual-national situations are closer to Hoyte than they are to the Rice situation. As a whole, the relaxed eligibility rules are a net positive for the game.
     
  7. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    8 month old article...which of course you knew.

    You should be walking a thin line, seeing as almost everything you post is trolling. I sincerely hope the 81 doesn't refer to your birth year as the thought of a 37 year old man doing this is embarrassing.
     
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  9. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I don't know what's worse. Greengrass deliberately posting that to troll or him being dopey enough not to realise its 8 months old.
     
  10. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
  11. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
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  12. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    So Nmecha was selected for both squads. Last time that happened he chose Germany didn't he ?

    I see Jamaal Musiala wore the #10 for Germany u16 yesterday.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nmecha is in Portugal with England.
     
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  14. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    “I’ve settled in well and I’m enjoying it. My dad is German too, from near Munich, so I knew what to expect and I’m learning the language with an app called Babbel and it’s going well.”

    Nelson's dad is German?
     
  15. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Was previously reported his dad was Zimbabwean, so...weird.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he could be both.

    there are plenty of African refugees or immigrants in Germany. Whether it's the parents (kids born in Germany) or the whole family came from Africa.
     
  17. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    A bit weird for him to have gotten to this stage without it ever coming up before though. Unless he's just misquoted and he said that his dad also lives in Germany.

    I did always think that him and Sancho look more German than English.
     
  18. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    No its my age.
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    How can they look more German? Do they have a little tash?
     
  20. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Sancho is now tied to England so no chance of any of these African nations getting their hands on him
     
  21. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I believe the only other country he was eligible for was Trinidad and Tobago.
     
  22. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I thought he has Jamaican heritage.
     
  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    1051730608144220161 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  24. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He plays for Stoke fwiw.
     
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  25. Sensanetional

    Sensanetional Member

    Apr 4, 2017
    That's right, Sancho is Jamaican, not T&T
     

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