English Abroad

Discussion in 'England' started by THOMA GOL, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Yokohama F-Marinos
    Jul 16, 1999
    Paradise of the Pacific
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure if this thread currently exists, but if not, I'm keen to know of the Englishmen representing at clubs globally. And in your honest opinion, who has been the best English player to play abroad? (some would say Lineaker,Keegan, Gazza, maybe Beckham or Platt?)
     
  2. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Didn't Waddle do rather well in France? I think it's fair to say Keegan has been the most impressive Englishman abroad.
     
  3. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
  4. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It looks like some kind of small rodent has curled-up and died on Glenn's head.
     
  5. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Yokohama F-Marinos
    Jul 16, 1999
    Paradise of the Pacific
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are reasons why there aren't that many English Abroad? IMHO, the Premier League is in top form with its quality, and Englishmen could give this quality to the world for various club sides. Is there some form of aprehension from clubs aborad? Are the English aprehensive about leaving home?
     
  6. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof

    Money. Premiership is pretty much the best payer top to bottom in Europe.
     
  7. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    -Bigger wages at home
    -English players cost alot
    -No foriegn league is noticebly better
     
  8. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    1. Money
    2. Most like staying closer to home
    3. Prestige of playing in the F.A Premier League...
     
  9. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Yokohama F-Marinos
    Jul 16, 1999
    Paradise of the Pacific
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, true. Maybe I'm just being naive, but it would be nice to see something different/fresh in other leagues i.e. an English GK shutting em down in Spain or the States;) , a solid English bruiser playing in Germany or Russia, a spirited English midfielder making moves in Italy or Portugal, or an English striker pimping the goals in France or Holland.
     
  10. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some other Englishmen to have had some sort of champions league success abroad: Steve McManaman, Owen Hargreaves, and Mark Hateley @ Glasgow Rangers. The latter I believe would've played in the 93 final had it not been for Marseille bribing their way instead.
     
  11. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    More money in the Premiership, even for the smaller teams. Owen gets more money playing for Newcastle than he did Real Madrid.
     
  12. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Few Englishmen play abroad purely because their domestic league is already one of the strongest in the world. Until recent seasons very few Spaniards or Italians played abroad for the same reason (and even with greater movement in recent times most still remain at home).

    For those that do move, if there are any problems settling in or playing at their new club the natural place to return is back to England (eg Michael Owen, or Robbie Keane - for the purposes of this discussion English/Irish/Scots/Welsh players can be included as "domestic").

    Anyway, Michael Ball's at PSV and he seems to have disappeared off everyone's radar entirely.
     
  13. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    John Barnes was fairly sucessful at Inter Milan.
     
  14. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    John Barnes never played for Inter.

    Luther Blissett at Milan, on the other hand...hugely successful. Hugely.
     
  15. FiveMagics

    FiveMagics New Member

    May 30, 2005
    Manchester
    Hargreaves is doing well at Bayern, Beckham at Real, thats probably the only ones in good leagues.

    English players actually do rather abroad. Hoddle at Marseille, Ince at Inter, Gazza at Lazio (to some extent) and many more etc.
     
  16. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Woodgate is the best of all English players abroad.
     
  17. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    I think it was a joke Leto. The rumour is they brought Blissett thinking it was Barnes.
     
  18. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    I did wonder - I didn't see why he'd substitute Inter in though, and figured he'd confused the story. Mea culpa.
     
  19. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Yeah, his "own" goals have been superb.. :rolleyes: Nothing against Woodgate, but not the best abroad imo....
     
  20. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Yes he is. A fit Woodgate is one of the best defenders in the world.
     
  21. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Yep. I'm a huge fan.
     
  22. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    agreed

    it's no suprise that in his 13 games this season Real kept 10 clean sheets with him at the back.
     
  23. kikkoman1231

    kikkoman1231 New Member

    Jun 2, 2005
    Comiskey Park
    If you consider the Irish to be domestic, Ronnie O'Brien, former Juventus midfielder, plays at FC Dallas in the MLS
     
  24. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I agree too Colm that he is one of the best defenders if not the best when he is fit, my apologies, I did not know that we were talking about just the top English defenders abroad.... It's a no-brainer that Woodgate fits that description....:)
     
  25. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Re: English Abroad.

    Just out of interest are there any English players in MLS?
     

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