England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

This is why I've been crying for Winks to start for over a year. One thing Southgate knows what to do is how to take advantage of our pace against lesser sides. By starting Winks as a divot that allowed us to have more possesion because he's clinical at keeping the ball and making smart decisions by making forward passes.

We were ruthless. We are a tough out against anybody. I'm expecting another goal barrage against Kosovo.

 

Spectacular impact. The only fact that he can face the game and pass forward under pressure revolutionize our build up. Southgate is not always a quick learner but better late than never.

 

I still think Henderson can be a useful player, but when he's not playing we tend to do better. In the two games he hasn't played for England in the last two years we've beaten Spain 3-2 and now Montenegro 7-0. So...

 

It's hard not to get carried away because of these results, but has England ever been this consistent at destroying teams? 33 goals in qualifying has to be an England record and we still got one more game.

I've never been so optimisic about England before.

 

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We've certainly blitzed qualifying before only to flop at the tournament. People remarking that "this team would get punished by France" or whoever are missing the rather crucial point that this team wasn't selected against France, but nevertheless we still have to figure out what to do against strong opposition.

But sure, why not be optimistic? We're in a much better place than we were five years ago.

 

I hope you mean pivot?

 

this is the most talented England team have had in years

 

Winks is playing how we failed to play carrick and scholes all those years ago

we desperately need passing cms to break better sides press (think Holland recently)

I’m not a maguire fan myself in a two, if tomori and Gomez strike you a double act that is pace and footballing ability combined

we can play from the back and with winks and hopefully foden/grealish/Maddison etc we have capable passers for our wide talent

 

Great! What is it with some England fans that haven’t got a brain cell between them! Unfortunately, non of the media are talking about the game but rather the booing of Gomez! Now we’re going to get another week of nonsense about Gomez and Sterling! Absolutely bloody moronic from a section of our fans and just embarrassing!

 

Our attack is really special

Chilwell is turning into a quality left back and we have so many options in attack.. it’s a good time to be an England fan.

Next year will depend on how we defend.. I think Winks makes a huggggge difference to us, I really hope Southgate sees how much better we are with him and continues with him

 

This system Englands playing at the moment would have worked well with the so called golden generation.

 

Instead we shoe Horned them I to a 442

 

Now Southgate has explained we’re going 4:3:3 due to the excess in quality up front ..Kane & Sterling plus one of either Rashford - Sancho - Hudson - Ox ..

I’d play a midfield three of Winks / Grealish / Maddison .. the defence is more or less sorted .

 

When is RLC coming back? Could be a decent option as well

 

He's got more potential than Grealish.

 

Completely different players

they would work well together imo with winks deeper

 

People will say it's only Montenegro or it's only Bulgaria, in the last game. However, even so, Winks' influence was so clear to see. A lot of people are critical of Rice' passing range, but for me, it's his inability to receive under pressure, in tight spaces or in other difficult situations such as when he has his back to his marker, that's the far bigger issue. People were critical of Mount in Prague and have been of Barkley at times, but it's very difficult playing in that advanced midfield role when you can't get the ball due to it either being lost by Rice or him panicking and offloading it 5 yards backwards or sideways. Winks though has that ability to turn and then drive forward a few yards and thus links the defence to the more creative players ahead of him.

 

My dad is in hospital . I was drunk lol

 

Sure but such games accentuate our strengths without testing our weaknesses. It doesn't give a balanced view on the true quality of the team.

Don't get me wrong, I really love this England side but things will be different when you have someone like Mbappe for our defence to deal with.

 

This is an outstanding England side going forward. I still think our defence is better than some people think

 

I’m not that optimistic to be honest, especially with the line up last night. I for one wouldn’t be confident with Stones and Maguire against any decent side, especially on current form and I think Southgate might revert to an Rice + Henderson midfield against good opponents.

 

Apparently, the booing of Gomez was more tongue in cheek/pantomime than anything else. Still not great and hope it doesn't happen again.

 

Oh yeah no doubt. I'm under no illusion that we don't have weaknesses and even last night, Montenegro created some openings and got into some positions that a better side would've at the least made more of, at best would've exploited it. Even so though, I still feel the midfield balance and performance last night and in Sofia was much better than the ones against Czech Republic or even Bulgaria at Wembley. Mainly because we moved the ball better and looked more fluid as a team in general. Whereas in those aforementioned games we looked one paced at times. Even in the Bulgaria game at Wembley, despite the goals, I feel the scoreline was more down to the front 3 turning it on as opposed to the midfield bossing the game and carving Bulgaria out with incisive passing and movement.

 

It’s probably because he plays for Liverpool l. Lots of fans have a huge dislike for them