England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah because getting on the end of that CHO shot proves that he has a very average football brain.
     
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  2. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Personally I would get Sancho for Ali, whose done nothing and push odoi into the middle
     
  3. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Don't know if anyone is going to say it but rice is bossing that midfield. Like a general commanding his men. Think we've found a gem here.
     
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  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Must have been some early nerves. I think it's fair to say he's over them.
     
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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Come on Rose, pull yourself together lad!
     
  6. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Does anyone else think Ali should be dropped?.
     
  7. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    No. He won't always be potent in attack but he's one of them players that will do something special and come up with the goods when you really need it.
     
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  8. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    He's also just back from injury, so will obviously be a bit rusty.
     
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  9. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It obviously was nerves and, as you say, he's past that. The only thing with the lad going forward is he seems to rely on his speed a lot and, as he ages, he'll also slow down.

    He'll be some player for the next few years, though :)
     
  10. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    This too. He's a special player when fit and I rate him very highly.
     
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  11. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Henderson in a nutshell. Odoi was about to go on a run so henderson takes it off him and slows the game down
     
  12. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I think the one crticism you can throw at him is that he hasn't replciated his goal scoring form from Spurs for England. He's scoring one in three in the Premier League, but just three in thirty four England games. Generally he tends to play a deeper role for England, but he should be scoring more given his talents.
     
  13. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    If you are too compete against the best you need ball playing midfielders. At the moment you don't have any but i expect in the future you will. I don't think ali and barkley are good enough in the long term.
     
  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Great ball from Barkely through to Sterling. I'm sure someone was saying he didn't have that in his game.
     
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  15. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    France just won the World Cup with Matuidi and Kante in midfield.
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Never seen a more gullible ref. They dive ref gives a free kick
     
  17. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    And that was great play from Henderson as well.
     
  18. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    There is no point playing him in a deeper role . He is a frank lampard player who gets in the box and gets on the end of things . When is not scoring goals for Tottenham you wonder what he is there for.

    I can't see his goal scoring stats going up for England as he is played too deep. Even if he is played further forward he wouldn't offer much as you don't have an erikson in the team to feed him the ball.
     
  19. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Rice has done well. I doubt it's the most demanding game he'll play for England, but he's looked composed and he strikes me as a player who knows his own strengths and limitations and doesn't try to be something he's not.
     
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  20. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Very good result in a tricky game. Thought Rice did pretty well overall, in spite of a few mistakes. Barkley my MOTM, he might not be everyone's cup of tea but he's the best option we got till Foden makes the squad. Alli disappointing again, Southgate could lose patience. Rose and Keane didn't look reliable. Rest of the team did well.
     
  21. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    No he's not a better player than Sancho.
     
  22. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Yeah Madison, grealish etc will all be in the squad next year. All ball playing midfielders. Gives Alli some competition next year.
     
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  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I think the result says a lot about Soutgate's management style. Under Hodgson or Capello, if we'd gone a goal down here we'd have spent the next fifteen minutes looking on edge and getting more and more nervy. Instead they calmly went about setting things right.
     
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  24. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Your defense looks poor. Rose doesn't get a game for Spurs and Keane is one of the worst defenders i have seen play for England .
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They look a lot less twitchy now, that's for sure.
     
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