England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    If Welbeck is fit or fully fit i'd be very happy to see

    Chamberlain - Dier
    Alli
    Sterling - Kane - Welbeck
     
  2. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't want to get too technical and I hate making references to the FIFA rankings, but it is important we get results from friendlies because it makes our FIFA ranking go up. Currently we're at #14 and we have to make it to the top 8 if we want to be a seeded team in the World Cup. Hence an easier group.

    If they still do that of course.
     
  3. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Incidentally, Wilshere is saying that he definitely wants to be in the England squad, which suggests that he thinks he's fit.
     
  4. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    It's only a matter of time, and it wouldn't surprise me if Harry Winks will be in there already.

    Is it a given Southgate will go 4321 btw?
     
  5. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Of course, but still the shortage of quality midfielders is worrying. Hopefully Winks, JWP, Tom Davies or other youngsters will improve nicely until the World Cup.
     
  6. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    It isn't great, but then we've had a shortage since at least 2012 and I don't think this is the worst it's been.

    It actually might be a good idea to call up Ward-Prowse on the understanding that he'll return to the under-21s for the Euros. He's playing pretty well (albeit not spectacularly so) and there will still be too many good midfielders in the under-21 squad for them all to get a game: Chalobah, Baker, Loftus-Cheek, Hughes, Winks, Swift... We don't need another one in there.
     
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  7. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Is everyone forgetting Barkley?
     
  8. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Not at all, but he's playing an exclusively attacking role for Everton. Unless he's repurposed, he isn't competing for the places that we're talking about.
     
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  9. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, that's fair. Just talking about midfield options in general though.
     
  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008


    According to this Barkley with get recalled. Possible promotions for JWP and Redmond. Andre Gray a possibilty.
     
  11. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  12. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Using the whoscored ratings is only a marginal improvement on using the old ratings from Shoot! magazine.
     
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  13. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
  14. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Kane was called up to the seniors in March of 2015 and still played at the U21 Euros.
     
  15. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Sure, but he'd already played about a dozen times for the under-21s and knew the squad/coaching staff/set-up well. Rashford has only been part of one under-21 squad and could possibly benefit from a bit more time to acclimatise before the Euros.
     
  16. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I think he should only be in the squad if he's going to start games.
     
  17. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If you mean the seniors then yes he should and hopefully he will. He's got a decent chance.
     
  18. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016

    I won't get too technical either but if we want our ranking to go up it would be more effective to not play friendlies at all. Just another demonstration of how flawed the FIFA rankings are.
     
  19. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys should start Vardy
     
  20. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    I'd like Jermain Defoe to get a call up. Obviously he's not a long term option but he deserves some recognition for his excellent form and calling Rashford up just disrupts the U21 group.
     
  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I kinda hope everton get rashford for lukaku in some kind of deal so he can get guarenteed first team football

    He could be the player we thought welbeck might be with finishing and fitness long term
     
  22. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    I'd rather give a call to Andre Gray before Rashford at the moment.
     
  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  24. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Jake Livermore? Southgate makes the most random decisions. Even basic squad selections make me feel that this man is out of his depth.
     
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  25. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I did not expect to see that name.

    Is it that random though? He's playing pretty well for a top-half team in a position that we're short in. Nobody's going to be excited about Jake Livermore, but... I don't know. I can see the logic.
     
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