End of Iraq War

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  1. profiled

    profiled Moderator
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    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/21/president-obama-has-ended-war-iraq

     
  2. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    Glad it's ending, but was it really needed?
     
  3. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
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    The Strongest La Paz
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    Bolivia
    What? Going or leaving?
     
  4. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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  5. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
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    Bolivia
    Unless you had shares in Haliburton I'm going to say F*** no.
     
  6. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    I cant wait to see how the Reactionary Media paints this as an Obama fail.
     
  7. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
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    FC Barcelona
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    United States
    Like watching the coward John McCain and Rubio dis our troops efforts in supporting the cause...
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    Mission accomplished!
     
  9. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    I'll believe it when they get back.
     
  10. Mr. Conspiracy

    Mr. Conspiracy Member+

    Apr 14, 2011
    Chicago
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    FINALLY!
    Well past time for our troops to leave iraq. Not that we should have been there to begin with, but that aside, once we caught Saddam we should have had them come home.
     
  11. ceezmad

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    Mar 4, 2010
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    So we are cutting and running now.








    :eek: :p :D
     
  12. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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    Now what about that other waste of time, money and lives?
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    I hear the series is tied 1 - 1 with next game in Dallas.
     
  14. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
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    United States
    The cost of war is big business, but also costly in the big picture.
     
  15. profiled

    profiled Moderator
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    What are the number of troops still deployed in Iraq?
     
  16. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
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    FC Barcelona
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    United States
    I wonder how many "contractors" will remain
     
  17. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    Let's see, join date 2007...

    Yup, you definitely missed all of the good stuff around here.
     
  18. Matrim55

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    [​IMG]
     
  19. Norsk Troll

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    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    ~39,000
     
  20. Roel

    Roel Member

    Jan 15, 2000
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    $1,000,000,000,000 and 4,000 + Americans lives to kill one rat bastard.

    To answer your question, nope.

    Sorry troops. The missions was a waste. Your bravery and commitment was wonderful.

    Great news that the rest are coming home. Maybe we do a better job defining the mission, next time.
     
  21. Iranian Monitor

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    Aug 18, 2004
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    I can't wait to see the US actually withdraw all of its troops from Iraq, and allow Iraq to have a sovereign, democratic government, which chooses its policies, alliances, friends and foes, based on its own preferences and not on the the dictates of others. If this US troop withdrawal actually happens as promised and planned, then I would credit the US after all! To be sure, the Americans did lie their way into Iraq; ever since, they have tried to force Iraq to follow America's dictates, but still: if the US does withdraw completely and unconditionally, then who can deny that the American ousted a terrible dictator from power and truly liberated a country in the process?

    Of course, there are many in the US, as well as in the region, including among Arab states as well others, who do not want to see a genuinely democratic, sovereign, liberated Iraq. Which is why the "ifs" I mentioned reflect serious worries that regardless of America's commitments in this regard, there is a chance we may not see the US withdrawal actually take place.
     
  22. Iranianfootie

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    Sep 8, 2009
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    Of course, US troops withdrawl means the IRI will be emboldened and improve Iran's influence. So at the end of the day, the US ousted a terrible dictator from power losing over 4,000 servicemen and liberated a country and then gave it to its arch-enemy, the IRI. Sounds like very smart US policy. *LOL*

    If you want a truly free and liberated sovereign Iraq, you will want Iraq free from ALL foreign influence, including Iran's. But yes, if you want a truly sovereign government that can choose its alliances (friends and foes) based on the wishes of the people, then yes that would be a great outcome.

    Did you know Fareed Zakaria is in Tehran now and just interviewed Ahmedinejad?

    My theory is that there was some sort of backroom deal between Tehran and Washington which is good news. Given tensions between Tehran and Washington, any event can spark a war.
     
  23. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Just considering the financial costs alone, $806 billion (as of March) in direct costs and at least $3 trillion in indirect costs. Was it worth it?
     
  24. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    For American people, no. For the corporations who got a big chunk of that $3 trillion dollars, yes.
     
  25. Iranianfootie

    Iranianfootie Member

    Sep 8, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That's like saying I paid $806,000 in direct costs and $3 million in indirect costs to finance my wife's shopping sprees. In the end, she ended up having an affair with the pool boy and marrying him. Was my investment in her worth it?

    But then again, I think these sort of major events are judged at a much later point in time. IF(big IF) the Iraq War is determined by historians to be the "catalyst" for Arab "democracies" in the region and positive relations between the West and the Muslim world, then yes, it would have been "worth it". But based on my understanding of the region, I seriously doubt it will happen.
     

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