Eliminatorias a RUSIA 2018

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by Gerlestat, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    No update. The points seem to be staying with Chile.
     
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  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    It's interesting how geopolitics and history work.

    Despite the fact that Peru and Gran Colombia had that war in the 1800s and that Peru and Colombia had another war over territory in the 1930s, there is zero animosity or rivalry between these two countries today. In fact, they get along really well.

    Meanwhile, the trauma from the war with Chile is felt like it happened last year. Even the wars with Ecuador still stay in people's minds and there is somewhat bad blood with them. Not Colombia though.
     
  3. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I see.. thanks for letting me know
     
  4. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
  5. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I meant on the current relations between the countries from old name called Gran Colombia. How do they get along today, is the historic moment called Gran Colombia nice pattern for mutual agreements and understanding in the future.

    Ecuador seems also with nice and firm governments, there are no major protests. They are not present in media because of politics. Many people don't even know the name of the Ecuadorian government.

    Colombian player Jose Izquierdo scored great goal for Club Brugge against Leicester City.

    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/video/highlights/videoid=2424583.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Izquierdo_(footballer,_born_1992)
     
  6. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Todo sigue igual que en noviembre (y seguirá igual hasta marzo):

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/index.html

    1. Brasil 27
    2. Uruguay 23
    3. Ecuador 20 +6
    4. Chile 20 +4
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    5. Argentina 19
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    6. Colombia 18
    7. Paraguay 15
    8. Perú 14
    9. Bolivia 7
    10. Venezuela 5

    23 de marzo:
    Uruguay-Brasil
    Argentina-Chile
    Paraguay-Ecuador
    Colombia-Bolivia
    Venezuela-Perú

    28 de marzo:
    Brasil-Paraguay
    Ecuador-Colombia
    Perú-Uruguay
    Chile-Venezuela
    Bolivia-Argentina
     
  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/20...conmebol-world-cup-qualifying-merge-infantino

    proposal of expanding the World Cup itself to a 40 or 48-team format from its current 32-team field. It’s believed that Infantino will introduce both proposals to the FIFA Council to be held this month.
    If approved, both CONCACAF and CONMEBOL would compete against each other to qualify for the 2026 World Cup. It remains to be seen how exactly the 46 country field would be narrowed down from CONCACAF’s perspective with so many different countries involved in many different rounds.
     
  8. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Kill it with fire!

    FIFA ********s just want more money at the expense of diluting the quality of the tournament.
     
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  9. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    According to Wikipedia, Concacaf has 41 members. That puts 51 countries total for probably 12-16 berths? That's easy, do as UEFA does, 8 or 9 groups, winners qualify directly, runner-ups play a playoff for the remaining berths.

    I do agree. We just had a tournament where 8 or 10 teams were pathetic, and now FIFA wants to add 16 more?

    If they want to add more teams, why don't try 40 first? I'd rather have a cup with 40 nations (8 groups of 5) than dilute the quality of all games in the group round. Some games will still suck but with groups of 3 teams we will very likely have 2 routs and a meaningless game. Horrible.

    Another format that we are discussing with some friends is to have 24 teams qualifying directly to the WC and change the intercontinental playoff to a preliminary tournament with 24 teams (8 groups of 3) with the winners advancing to the WC in June.
     
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  10. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    It's all about money. More money from the tv, more sponsors and more games to sell out. It's so simple. FIFA is broke right now after the corruption scandal. This suucks
     
  11. SIN DIOS NI LEY

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    I would say money is secondary, it's all about Infantino staying as FIFA President as long as possible. That's the main motivation for this.
     
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  12. locotl

    locotl Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    florida
    I hope commebol changes the WCQ them, its kind of pointless to go against all 10 teams for 7 spots.
     
  13. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Back to 3 groups?

    Or maybe groups of 5...top 3 go trough and 4th from each group play off for last spot
     
  14. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Naa... I like playing all of you guys every-time.

    The problem is there will just not be the same sense of urgency there is now. Our qualies are perfect as they are, every match practically a final. With more spots I think there will be more teams qualified early and that will give way to some irregular results in the closing stage.
     
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  15. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The whole point of CONMEBOL WCQ is that life expectancy goes down when your team plays, specially if you're Chilean. Now that is gone.
     
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  16. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Uruguay will still manage a way to enter the WC through a intercontinental playoff...
     
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  17. locotl

    locotl Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    florida
    Despues del "todos contra todos" es que el nivel de las selecciones subio. La misma eliminatoria es mas competitiva que el mundial (el ultimo de las "clasificatorias" te puede ganar-en su casa- y nadie se sorprenderia).
    Hubiera preferido que se quede como ahora y darnos mas cupos lucha do contra CONCACAF o haciendo mas repechages contra Asia Y Oceania
     
  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Would be a shame to see the current CONMEBOL format change. Hopefully something can be done to keep it while also maintaining competitiveness, although I don't know how to do that. I would say you can reward, say, the top 4 by making them seeding in the World Cup, but we all know FIFA will want to use their flawed rankings instead.

    Yeah, no point to have 3 groups. There's no rush. Plenty of time for two groups of 5 where everyone plays 8-10 matches.
     
  19. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    Now we gonna see Tahiti at the WCUp.
     
  20. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Nah new zealand has ofc on lock down
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    OFC might get more than one berth.
     
  22. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    LOL, to be fair it will take a nuclear meltdown for them not to qualify directly this time.
     
  23. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    There is no excuse to do so. Unless by some miracle Australia returns to Oceania they should get no more than 1 spot.
     
  24. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    Oceania should be dissolved and it should be put together with Asia.
     
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  25. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    ... eliminating China in the process...

    karma is a bitch, Infantino

    :sneaky:
     

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