Dynamo 2019 Front Office (Business) Changes

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  1. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    The new guy probably knows what he should do but Brener has no money for him. I speculate that the new regime got in too late to do much for 2019 and since they have jersey money they aren’t as concerned about investing to sell tickets this year
     
  2. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
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    This is what I concur with as our current state of being for 2019.
    However, with this league wide Nanny Government lockdown on streamers, it appears that MLS HQ is quickly going NBA on the culture of our league. More so as all the new clubs enter. We might devolve into the old L.A. Clippers where we are just in it to be in it. Not win it. As the Atlanta, Seattle and LAGs see it.
     
  3. Goldenstick

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    Jul 4, 2003
    Bridge City, Texas
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    Streamers are so dangerous to the fans and players. A player might step on one and fall or it could blow into his face. For the fans, falling streamers could potentially cause concussion. Not to mention, streamers are for kids birthday parties and do not add pleasure to the game day experience/atmosphere. Great call by MLS/ Dynamo to remove them entirely from the game. I am glad to see them remove any fans involvement in game day celebrations. Now we can all sit, “ooh and ahh”, clap our hands and be classy
     
  4. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    What about that confetti they blast out?

    At least one thing to toss in there -- rotten streamer in the thread if you will -- is if they pare back the organic part they need to step up on the organizational entertainment.
     
  5. Varus

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    Feb 5, 2015
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    I'm going to laugh if they still issue those placards that inevitably turn into paper airplanes.
     
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  6. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

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  7. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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  8. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    I was gonna start a new thread called "Most Dynamo Things Ever" but figured putting it here would be just fine- sounds like the "Happy Hour" specials were not as special as they made it sound (cut the price but also the serving size) and apparently they didn't have the nameplate letters for the new jersey.

    Expected a little bit more out of Walker and his new crew - no reason to overhype and underdeliver this year, just cuts credibility further.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/dynamo/comments/awomtn/happy_hour_half_the_beer_but_same_price/


    DEDETHECENTERBACK
    "Heads up for anyone wanting to get the new home Jersey today...they don't have the letters for the player's names on the back. They'll have to wait a little while longer for my $150.."
     
  9. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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  10. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    I'm sure "opinions are his own" but this isn't exactly the best sales strategy to put on twitter unless you think millennial socialists are a good target audience - and 4 of the 6 likes are left wing Dynamo fans!

    1107041992645754880 is not a valid tweet id
     
  11. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Bertram, TX, US
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    Millennial socialists, women, and non-whites were the groups the original tweet mentioned.
     
  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    I think any external facing business representative that tweets out AOC tweets is probably not making a sound personal decision.
     
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  13. nbrooks503

    nbrooks503 Previously Held @Dynamo Hostage From 2008-2019

    Jun 1, 2008
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  14. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    According to Harris County clerk records, earlier in March there was an amended leasehold deed filed for Dynamo Stadium LLC which implies some amended loan agreements or other financing-type activity with the team.

    Yeah, sounds like inside baseball stuff but with this ownership group they could be pulling more cash out thru additional leverage. Or they could be refi debt. Or something completely benign but requires a legal amendment to the deed.

    BTW, this will be the second deed amendment since Brener bought the team on 12/15/15.
     
  15. *rey*

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    Feb 22, 2006
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  16. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    do you mean stream the audio? live? video?

    do we have english language radio or is this a replacement?
     
  17. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
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    i'm looking forward to hearing it. As soon as it becomes available on that little ol platform called itunes....
     
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  18. AcetheTigah

    AcetheTigah Member+

    Apr 6, 2005
    Woodlands, TX
     
  19. AcetheTigah

    AcetheTigah Member+

    Apr 6, 2005
    Woodlands, TX
    With the sure drop in revenue they have experienced I wonder if they are losing money and Isung more debt to help fund operations

    This would be a bad thing for the future if they feel it’s ok to use the club franchise value as a piggy bank to indebt the club more also a sure sign of a poorly run business.
     
  20. Westside Cosmo

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  21. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #46 juvechelsea, Apr 1, 2019
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    I grew up doing Astros Buddies some years. The Astros used to have the $5 upper deck tickets (which were hot and not AC'd enough, but that's just me). One thing the Dynamo have missed is simply "deals." I don't find spending $100 for 4 tickets with something tossed in a great deal, and the one time I did it I don't remember everyone getting the item, size issues or something. Which irked because I didn't think it was much of a per seat discount.

    So it's like I don't want to beef at offering deals, though the execution is in fact very Dynamo, including wanting their fees.

    And I have never bought the MBA gibberish that high prices and no discounts maintain value and increase demand. BS anecdotal/narrative theory that contradicts what the curves will tell you. The recent Story of the Dynamo is fans fleeing for a combination of Astros success and moneyballing the roster. Even when we had the 2017 run -- or likely now -- enthusiasm for the team is going to lag any success. Fans don't see the stars or the same level of effort as the big dogs. So they are jaded waiting for demonstrated success like before. Unless we get trophies or spend the money the attendance will fade. Your competition is the Astros, who have recent success and don't moneyball their fans like it's a small market. This never was a small market and treating the fans like it is, is an exercise in foolishness and alienation.
     
  22. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

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    Correct on Houston, with our global image and size of player pool and potential fan base, we are never a small market like K.C. or Columbus or Colorado. Yet MLS was treated as a whole as a small market in the early years of the league, which we entered there in exactly Season 11. Now we are in Season 24!
    The training wheels were taken off by Commissioner Garber with the DP era, Becky signing soon after us and Toronto entered the league and MLS started to change on many fronts from how MLS HQ viewed supporter sections, to regional competition and of course spending big on a few big names.
    To then the league turned 21 years old and was now able to drink. Drink from the fountain of big boy American league belief. Our problem is that our club got stagnant in all this process and is perhaps just now coming of age in MLS 3.0 era, where a city like Atlanta is averaging 50K and selling players to Europe.
     
  23. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    The ticket deals reflect that the FO recognizes the hole they are in this year - a few weeks ago you could only get DC and Galaxy game tickets with STH or 3-game packages and now they are BOGO free?

    At the same time, it erodes some STH package value which has been eroding for years. There’s zero doubt the vast spaces of empty seats (regardless of how many they announce as attended) has created depressing visuals that the FO felt they had to try and fill with sales discounts.

    Danger you run is conditioning fans to only go to Dynamo games if it’s cheap. But without real roster spending by ownership you don’t have many levers to pull to increase attendance outside of heavy discounts
     
  24. AcetheTigah

    AcetheTigah Member+

    Apr 6, 2005
    Woodlands, TX
    I briefly looked at the flash sale tux and they are seats on the opposite side of the stadium in the sun for mostly the daytime games
    The have some end line 200 seats up in the corner at 2 for 24 but I would rather be in the lower bowl
    Still not value enough for me to bite

    I had tix in the corner one time and I ended up with a backache from being turned so much while watching the game - does anyone else think those seats aren’t angled right for soccer viewing?
     
  25. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    I agree with a caveat. I think initially it precisely fits your model. It was a hard cap league with some grandfathering or the lone Beckham exception which few teams could afford. So salaries were kept down and the acquisition that could help you win might in fact be off the MLS or abroad scrap piles, Ngwenya, Dalglish, etc. I also agree that with some mild upward salary adjustments we still live in the world of poking around the junk pile, and the league has moved on to 3 DPs plus other rules to exploit, and like I was explaining to Mrs. JC when she saw Howard on the screen for Colorado, he probably costs per year what our 3 most expensive players do together. In a city that had the first million dollar pitcher back in the 80s -- Ryan -- we haven't gotten above mid 6 figures. And no other big league team runs their team this way, even the Texans who blow too much cash on JJ.

    That being said, I think there was a transitional period perceptible to people wired to be critical even in success, 2008-2013, where we dropped down to no better than 2nd, constantly LAG's bridesmaid, and LAG was spending money on 3-4 core players. At the time it was discussed in relative AEG redhead step child terms, or positively cast as "playoff regulars." Which we were, but everything could line up perfect and we'd still be second best. Which was erosion from where we'd been.

    And then my theory is that as TFC took off, and several other such spenders came to be, even 2nd is a stretch. You can be the plucky organized team in a single big dog league and take 2nd. But if there are a half dozen or more fairly organized and spendy teams, you're doomed for the big trophy. If TFC has an off year about 4-5 other teams don't.

    That being said, NYRB now runs a fairly tight ship and doesn't spend a ton and they led the points last year with an all time record to beat big spending Atlanta to the SS. I say that because if you remain a fan after the payroll I think you still owe yourself to keep them honest. Otherwise it's not just we won't spend like them but the validation of low expectations. One reason I mouth off is if I ever reach the "well what do you expect" point, I might as well quit.
     

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