News: Dutch players at home and abroad worthy to be tracked in connection with the Dutch NT - Part 4

Impossible to judge since neither have played enough full senior matches. My money (if someone put a gun to my head) would be on Lammers though, by far!!!

This guy is a HUGE talent! Some guys in youth system are calling him the next vBasten.
I wouldnt go quite that far, but I can see some resemblance

 

I watched a bit of Lammers this past week as PSV were in the U.S. tour (matches were broadcasted). He didn't leave an impression as a "can't miss top-shelf" player, but certainly he's an interesting talent to watch for. Has great athleticism, is tall and strong, and can decently hold up the ball and link up. He seems to be more fluid and speedy than Luuk De Jong or Bas Dost - which isn't saying much considering how stiff both are.

If I were to guess, I think LDJ/BD is probably Lammers' lower ceiling. Absolute best case scenario would be somebody like Van Hooijdonk or Adebayor. Ideal scenario would be PSV selling Luuk and giving the valuable playing time to Lammers and letting this kid develop. A 20-years old in Eredivisie, playing second fiddle is not exactly a good recipe for success.

 

I wonder how many 18 year olds PSV has started in the past decade. Cannot be that many, as I cannot remember one.

 

nope, debuted at 20.

 

That means absolutely nothing.
vNistelrooij was a complete unknown until he was 22

 

Bassie Dost with a natural hattrick today

 

Wijnaldum was immense against City today in handing them their first defeat in the PL this season.

 

Ruud vormer has been nominated for the golden boot in Belgium. 7 goals and 15 assist and captain for club Brugge. Looking at how clasie has found it hard at club brugge,it jus goes to show how much Vormer has developed since leaving feyenoord while clasie has failed to break into the starting 11 even though with NT Cap and EPL experience and in eredivisie top flight. I like what I have seen of Vormer.he could fit in a top team with his individual skills. Maybe it has come bit late but he should be given a crack at NT. No more klaassen,propper, and other same old faces who simply have dragged NT through out for 4 years.

 

Klopp used the same tatic as guardiola. Deploying two attacking midfielders . ox and Wijnaldum.this countered what Pep was doing with De Bryne and Silva/Gundogan with fernandinho as DM.this was the trump card of guardiola until it was matched by klopp yesterday.
Also Liverpool needs another good defender and should off load lovern or klavan.

 

On Lammers note.Any hopes on richairo zivkovic .

 

Feedback on Kongolo:
http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/how-terence-kongolo-performed-debut-14122660
"And, despite Kongolo not playing a competitive match since December 20 due to Ligue Un's winter break, the 23-year-old shone in Town's back line."

 

I'd venture to guess that Ronaldo (the World-cup winner Brazilian, not Cristiano) started for PSV in his late teens. Same with Robben, I thought he was super young, 18 or 19, when recruited to PSV. Depay maybe, and Bergwijn from recent memory? Too lazy to look up.

 

FC Bolton, currently 21st in Championship league. Thats some kind of team he was up against

 

Well, PSV werenot that itchy to let him go, as he's not that good and they have a better one lined up since the transfer window opened.
Plus the fee plugs a serious hole in the budget.

 

I think its a smart business move by PSV

 

Yup, a player that isnot that good and superfluous selling for about 4 times his real worth....sounds about right.

 

Van der Wiel may be on his way to my club. Was being reported in Italy too

Heard from a source this morning that Toronto FC are interested in former Ajax/PSG/Dutch International Gregory van der Wiel. The soon to be 30 year old RB currently plays with Cagliari of Serie A#TFCLive pic.twitter.com/mdPlWiA9U2

— Steve-o Gennaro (@_sgennaro) January 21, 2018

 

Depay offering the win against PSG with a stunning goal in the last minutes.

He was being horrendous before scoring that goal, typical Depay. Selfish, clumsy, lazy, then scores out of nowhere.

I believe he is a kind of Babel. A bit better as a team player though. Babel had very few chances to prove himself with NT, yet he scored so many important (and beautiful) goals with Liverpool, even coming as a bench player.

That's how Depay should be used with NT, cleverly, as a bench player. I don't think he will ever change, will never be regular in his performances. But he can get more effective and lethal with time, like Babel now.

 

Some time ago in a Spanish thread someone mentioned a Dutch defender at Real Madrid. I wondered about that as the guy was Spanish and his name too. Now I stumbled over him again and it was mentioned he could have chosen to play for Oranje, but chose for Spain. Now after more googeling I found out the Spanish fans leave out his Dutch family name.
The guy is Marco Asensio Willemsen. It's his birthday today too. But why they in the first post I referred to they were talking about a defender bafflesme as he's an attacker.
https://www.transfermarkt.nl/marco-asensio/profil/spieler/296622
How did he get in the Spanish camp?

Edit: he lived in Spain

 

Generally agree with this assessment. I think Depay lacks the "footballing IQ" needed to perform at the highest level. He can certainly use a mentor or a father-figure coach to guide his decision-making process, on and off the field. I don't know if he has such thing...

RVP was more talented than Depay, but RVP and Depay were very raw both technically, emotionally, mentally speaking when they first burst to the scene. The integral part of RVP emergence imho was the fact that he was surrounded by a very mature group of people, legendary coach Arsene Wenger (as dismal as his recent record is), top-shelf footballers like Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Campbell, Pires and so on. It must have been humbling for RVP, and I bet it somehow motivated him. I thought Depay was somewhat decent under Van Gaal, but it seems like he's been all over the map these days... some good, some bad when you're reading the news.

 

Memphis needs to go to Liverpool and meet up with Klopp to get put in his place and really develop as a player.

In another note...what do people think of Ludovit Reis? Seems fairly promising but I don't know much about him. Only that he's done fairly well for Groningen for a 17 year old.

 

It seems that this guy played in the youth teams of Ajax. I did not know him at all. Apparently he refused this winter to sign for PSV and Az.

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