Efer deje de defender tanto a Rueda, con Colombia logro como el 60% de los puntos pero todo el mundo se quejaba de que promocionaba jugadores, asi que cual es la preocupacion de defenderlo, ademas cual es la preocupacion por los vecinos? Los ecuas se ven muy torpes con el balon, ese equipo no lo para ni Bielsa papa!!!!
Es dificil de asumir porque si hay jugadores, pero no los llaman. Y es facil de entender porque este mismo equipo hizo daño en la eliminatoria con Vizuete, y ahora no crean opciones de gol ni nada. Ecuador vs Argentina Quito 2009. Elizaga, Reasco, Hurtado, Espinoza, W Ayovi, Valencia, Noboa, Castillo, Mendez, Tenorio y Felipe. (Palacios, Guerron y Montero fueron los cambios - OJO todos ofensivos - Salieron Noboa, Felipe y Tenorio lesionado.) Ecuador contra Venezuela 2011. Elizaga, Reasco, Araujo, Erazo, W Ayovi, Arroyo, Noboa, Castillo, Mendez, Chucho y Felipe. (Los dos cambios fueron Montaño por Arroyo y Quiroz por Castillo). Aca se nota la diferencia, Vizuete queria ganar, a como de lugar. Rueda, queria empatar pero al mismo tiempo sin que le hagan mas goles. Para que lo llevas a Mina, si no crees en el que puede empatar el partido contra Venezuela y prefieres que juegue el niño de 19 años poniendolo en riesgo para el Mundial. Si no le tienes fe contra Venezuela, peor va a jugar contra Brasil.
The team does need a new, more offensive coach but lets not forget that all those offensive displays Ecuador showed during the 2010 WCQ were in Quito where the altitude does give some advantage. Thats why Ecuador played at a fast pace like Liga does(or used to) in the Copa Libertadores. I don't remember them playing well at all on the road under Vizuete's charge except against Bolivia and Peru. They only played Argentina well enough but that was a dysfunctional group under Maradona. Ecuador needs a high profile coach but the FEF will never pay up the money needed.
Dude, the pace at which Ecuador played was uncharacteristic of the same seleccion of years past....the team simply played well, regardless of Altitude. Brazil and Argentina played us man-to-man and still weren't able to win, we even had Elizaga block a Tevez penalty if you remember. We won in Peru, in Bolivia, tied in Uruguay and in Argentina. The point is that the team worked MUCH better than now.
You are correct they did play much better but I think we need someone else besides Vizuete which many people seem to want back. His team always seemed to many times screw up in the last minutes and give up an equalizer or play overly confident a 1 goal lead. At this point I just don't know who can reorganize this team in under 2 months and I just feel frustrated seeing talented players not know what to do. Brazil isn't even in 2014 qualifiers and we are wasting such a good opportunity to qualify.
Do you blame that on Vizuete or on the players? Vizuete isn't the one on the field that doesn't cover the opponents offense correctly in the last few minutes of a game. If you look at the games where our opponents tied us in the last few minutes of a game you pinpoint the errors- Ivan Hurtado and Giovanny Espinoza. Go look at clips of the game in Argentina, the game at home vs. Brazil, and the game at home vs. Paraguay and you'll see what im talking about. Why couldn't Espinoza and Hurtado remain concentrated through out the entire game? They'd be able to defend decently for 90% of every game and the other 10% of the game they'd be worse than Luis Checa and let a goal slip by in just 1 or 2 plays that our opponents would have in an entire game. That's not Vizuete's fault. Espinoza and Hurtado were old, and by the last few minutes of the game they didn't have enough juice left in them.
Felipe Caicedo - uno de los maximos goleadores en Espan~a, pretendido por varios equipos en Europa Christian Benitez - campeon y goleador de la liga mexicana Walter Ayovi - campeon de la liga mexicana, fijo en su equipo Christian Noboa - dos veces campeon en Rusia, capitan de su equipo, jugo en la Champions League, le marco un gol de penal al Barcelona Edison Mendez - jugador historico, campeon en Holanda, jugo dos mundiales, jugo la Champions League y llego a cuartos con el PSV Antonio Valencia - ni hablar Estos son jugadores con trayectoria. No son nuevos o desconocidos en el futbol mundial. Suma a estos Michael Arroyo, un jugadorazo, y seguramente no puedes decir que este equipo no tiene talento! Talento sobra...incluso no he incluido a Joffre Guerron y Jefferson Montero porque el imbecil de Rueda no los llamo (quiza porque ya juegan en el exterior y no se puede compartir el $$$ de ventas con Chiriboga). Ademas, en la defensa estamos bien...individualmente. El arquero Elizaga es un monstruo. Erazo y Araujo han sido solidos, y solo nos han marcado un gol en 2 partidos. Los unicos que en realidad no han aportado son Castillo y Reasco, que son experimentados pero ya no sirven para este nivel. Los jugadores estan bien. Lo que a este equipo le falta es orden, organizacion, tactica, esquema, motivacion...cosas de tecnico, papa!!
vuelvo y repito criticar y tirar piedras verbales es muy facil lo que si pienso es que no es solo culpa del DT...es una convinacion de factores y malos momentos de jugadores que como dice manolo - en el anterior comentario, hacen noticisa a nivel individual, pero en lo grp no han podido arrancar en copa america. Ver el caos de uruguay o argentina con mas talento y exitos en lo individual, incluso brazil pasa por el mismo escrutinio hoy en dia. exitos a nivel de club, no TIENEN POR QUE REFLEJARSE A nivel de seleccion, solo colaborar en el heche de que por lo menos sena convocados a participar y fajarse por su seleccion.
Efer is right, but so is Manolo. At the end of the day, regardless of how the players perform out on the pitch, the coach is ALWAYS accountable and responsible for the end result.
If there's a team in South America failing because of bad coaching, that's Ecuador. The talent is there, the ball trapping, the dribbling, the speed, all is there. But the players seem to constantly get in the way of each other and make the wrong pass, to the place where someone else was supposed to be but it's not. The more I watch Ecuador, the more convinced I am they could be a great team with the proper coach. Which is not Rueda. I'm not the person to ask for the head of a coach easily, I don't think I've done so in many years. But, honestly, if you cannot get your players to elaborate an attack and instead get them to be in each other's way, it's evident you've failed at coaching them.
If Ecuador is extremely Lucky// Rueda resigns and Ricardo Lavolpe takes over. I've always like the way he coaches. Now for some Positives and negatives.. 1. he know Mexican futbol like no other! Having Jaime Ayovi, Segundo Castillo, Joao Rojas, Cristian benitez, Cristian Suarez, Michael arroyo, in the mexican league he'll know exactly what to look for, Who's bullshitting, Who's ready and actual rendimientos of these footballers. 2. He brought up alot of talent in Mexico and has an eye for talent. after all he took Walter Ayovi to mexico. 3. He plays attractive football and well organized. The negative thing is that he's going to have very little time to work!!
LaVolpe is a true magnate in Mexico and Costa Rica. His manufacturing companies dominate the soap and cleaning business in most hotels in Mexico and thru Central America. The guy is loaded! Other then Argentina, (he has huge investments in CR), I don't ever see him leaving his comfort zone to go coach anywhere else ----although his ego would allow him to accept a European club or European NT I'm sure!
To Rueda, Its normal to have 5 bodyguards? LMAO.. http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/07/1...-creo-ni-nombra-copa-america.html?p=1371&m=76
Thats hella sad. I get everyone is mad but people could take it too far if someone tries to physical harm to him. Only a stupid uneducated person would try to do something like that. Too bad Ecuador is loaded with people like that.
http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/07/16/1/1372/ecuador-debe-ser-dirigido-aguinaga-vizuete.html I agree with most of what El TIN Delgado said. Except with the part of Aguinaga, maybe in the distant future but not now.
^ i think what Tin said at the end of that is the most important part. The FEF doesn't take any of the legendary ecuas into consideration to be surrounding the NT to at least motivate the younger guys. Tin, Ulises, Ivan- all players with leadership skills. This is the 4th ex-player of the NT to say that Guerron, Montero, etc. should have been called up. (tin, tenorio, aguinaga, hurtado have all shown their discomfort with the FEF)
Some players open their traps because they want attention. Why don't people ask El Tin why he didn't play in the last qualifier? Vizuete wanted him only for home game. Yet he decides only to play futbol at club level. Why don't you pay your friggin Child support you moron. your kids are hungry! Weren 't you in Jail because of it? What kind of example is that? Jeff hurtado had both Geovanny Espinoza and Ivan hurtado as companion in Barcelona. Tell me how that went Mr. Delgado? Its clearly a Coaching issue and nothing more..
Yeah, I think those days of Ecuador going down to Peru and getting three points are over and Peru has a bunch of footballers that are injured.. Ecuador better do something quick.
Wow...good for them. But this is very, very bad for us. No more easy points vs Peru as it was vs Venezuela. Those good ol' days are long gone.