Dream group/pot thread

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by persianfootball, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding#Pots

    im surprised nobody opened this up yet.

    what is your dream group for your team? what could be the group of death? what could be the easiest group?

    as an Iran fan, i would want this group:

    russia
    peru
    Iran
    panama

    i think germany, brazil, messi, france, and spain are the only teams that are virtually guaranteed to take 3 points off of us; if we wanted to get a point from any other team, we could. but to advance you need to win at least one match as well, which is why i am hoping we get panama, as all the non AFC teams (we cant be drawn with AFC teams) in pot 4 are decent teams that will be hard (no more than a 50% chance) to get 3 points from.

    having said that, i would still want us to avoid all pot 2 teams except peru/mexico/colombia.

    i am upset that we wont have a chance to play iceland or egypt as they are in the same pot; i really wanted to play those teams (not because they are weak, but i just wanted to see us face them).

    but dont forget that getting an easy group is not a guarantee for qualification to the round of 16; this is the world cup and all teams are decent and can cause upsets, and if your team gets an easy group, the other teams in your group also may see it as an easy group and will be just as hungry to qualify.

    group of death will be if spain gets drawn with germany or brazil.

    weakest group would be:

    russia
    peru
    senegal
    saudi/panama
     
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  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a Peru fan, agreed ;)

    Then again, given how long it's been since Peru played in a WC, I'm half-inclined to want as big an opponent as possible out of Pot 1 to get that full experience. Bring it on, France! :D
     
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  3. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    For Spain I'd like...
    - Russia, preferrably in the tournament inaugural match
    - Either of the three CAF teams in Pot 3
    - Saudi Arabia

    Group of death for Spain to me would be...
    - Brazil
    - Iceland or, perhaps, Iran
    - Nigeria although, tbh, I don't know much about this present Nigerian team. My mind still suffers from '98.
     
  4. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    For Nigeria

    group I want

    Poland
    Switzerland
    Iran
    Nigeria

    group I dont want

    Brazil
    Spain
    Sweden
    Nigeria

    Group of Death

    Brazil
    Spain
    Sweden
    Nigeria

    Group of Life

    Poland
    Switzerland
    Iran
    Panama
     
  5. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    After watching Australia completely own Honduras both home and away my expectations for Concacaf perhaps barring Mexico are not very high.

    For Australia I would like

    Russia
    Peru
    Costa Rica

    For Portugal not really fussed who we get

    Peru
    Costa Rica
    Saudi Arabia
     
  6. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    In my (subjective) rankings, the teams in each pot -- and I will assume Peru gets passed NZ -- would rate in order (strongest - weakest) and grade (A - F) as follows:

    Pot 1:
    1- Brazil (A+) 2- Germany (A) 3- Portugal (A-) 4- Argentina (A-) 5- France (B+) 6- Belgium (B) 7- Poland (B) 8- Russia (C+)
    Pot 2:
    1-Spain (A-) 2- England (B) 3- Mexico (B) 4- Uruguay (B) 5- Switzerland (B) 6- Colombia (B) 7- Croatia (B-) 8- Peru (C+)
    Pot 3:
    1- Sweden (B) 2- Denmark (B-) 3- Senegal (C+) 4- Iran (C+) 5- Egypt (C+) 6- Costa Rica (C+) 7- Iceland (C+) 8- Tunisia (C)
    Pot 4:
    1- Nigeria (B-) 2- Serbia (B-) 3- Morocco (C+) 4- Japan (C+) 5- Australia (C+) 6- South Korea (C) 7- Panama (C-) 8- Saudi Arabia (C-)
    ---
    As such, the weakest draw would be:
    1- Russia (C+)
    2- Peru (C+)
    3- Tunisia (C)
    4- Saudi Arabia (C-)

    The toughest draw would be:
    1- Brazil (A+)
    2- Spain (A-)
    3- Sweden (B)
    4- Nigeria (B-)

    For Iran, the easiest draw on paper would be the one persianfootball mentioned (1-Russia 2- Peru 3- Iran 4- Panama), but I have been persuaded by the comments I have read that all things considered (including media exposure and attention), the best draw for Iran would be:
    1- Russia (C+) 2- England (B) 3- Iran (C+) 4- Panama (C-).
     
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  7. themanlarry

    themanlarry Member+

    Nov 14, 2005
    Too soon :unsure::(:cry:
     
  8. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    LOL. Oh well, when I posted the message, I didn't realize Peru has already defeated NZ.
     
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  9. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Argentina
    Croatia
    Egypt
    Panama

    :thumbsup:
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    With the way Argentina is playing defensively they would have problems with Croatia and Egypt.
    They'd crush Panama though.
     
  11. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  12. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ill take my chances! Rather not play CONMEBOL teams or Spain, England, Nigeria
     
  13. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I got this:

    GROUP A

    • RUSSIA

    • MEXICO

    • EGYPT

    • SERBIA
    GROUP B

    • BRAZIL

    • SWITZERLAND

    • ICELAND

    • NIGERIA
    GROUP C

    • BELGIUM

    • URUGUAY

    • SWEDEN

    • AUSTRALIA
    GROUP D

    • POLAND

    • ENGLAND

    • COSTA RICA

    • SAUDI ARABIA
    GROUP E

    • GERMANY

    • COLOMBIA

    • IRAN

    • MOROCCO
    GROUP F

    • ARGENTINA

    • CROATIA

    • DENMARK

    • JAPAN
    GROUP G

    • FRANCE

    • SPAIN

    • SENEGAL

    • PANAMA
    GROUP H

    • PORTUGAL

    • PERU

    • TUNISIA
    • KOREA



    Ill say this seems interesting
     
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  14. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Group A:
    • 5 stars: Germany, Brazil.
    • 4 stars: Portugal, Argentina, France, Belgium.
    • 3 stars: Russia.
    • 2 stars: Poland.
    Group B
    • 5 stars: Spain.
    • 4 stars: England, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay.
    • 3 stars: Croatia.
    • 2 stars: Peru, Switzerland.
    Group C
    • 3 stars: Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden.
    • 2 stars: Denmark.
    • 1 stars: Iran, Senegal.
    • 0 stars: Tunisia, Egypt.
    Group D
    • 3 stars: Japan, South Korea, Serbia.
    • 2 stars: Nigeria.
    • 1 stars: Australia, Saudi Arabia.
    • 0 stars: Morocco, Panama.

    - o -

    Death groups:
    • Brazil / Spain / Sweden / Japan.
    • Germany / Spain / Costa Rica / South Korea.
    Weak groups:
    • Russia / Peru / Tunisia / Panama
    • Poland / Switzerland / Senegal / Morocco
     
  15. themanlarry

    themanlarry Member+

    Nov 14, 2005
    You don't watch much football do you?
     
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  16. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I got (Nigeria lucked out, Serbia OMG):
    GROUP A

    • RUSSIA

    • URUGUAY

    • SWEDEN

    • PANAMA
    GROUP B

    • PORTUGAL

    • COLOMBIA

    • ICELAND

    • SAUDI ARABIA
    GROUP C

    • POLAND

    • CROATIA

    • TUNISIA

    • AUSTRALIA
    GROUP D

    • BRAZIL

    • MEXICO

    • DENMARK

    • MOROCCO
    GROUP E

    • BELGIUM

    • PERU

    • IRAN

    • NIGERIA
    GROUP F

    • GERMANY

    • SWITZERLAND

    • SENEGAL

    • KOREA REP.
    GROUP G

    • ARGENTINA

    • ENGLAND

    • EGYPT

    • SERBIA
    GROUP H

    • FRANCE

    • SPAIN

    • COSTA RICA

    • JAPAN
     
  17. thewitness

    thewitness Member

    Melbourne Victory, Derby County
    Australia
    Jul 10, 2013
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    My Dream Group would be
    Russia
    Mexico
    Tunisia
    Australia

    Nightmare Group would be
    Brazil
    Spain
    Denmark
    Australia
     
  18. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    btw....the 2002 group of death with argentina, england, sweden, nigeria might be drawn again.
     
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  19. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    You put Iceland, Japan, Costa Rica, South Korea at 3 stars, and Poland and Denmark at 2? Nice...
     
  20. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    I would like:

    Poland
    Peru
    Iran
    Panama

    or

    Poland
    England
    Iran
    Panama

    Strongest would be like somebody already said:

    Group of Death

    Brazil
    Spain
    Sweden
    Nigeria
     
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  21. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I like both those groups for Iran as well.
     
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  22. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    Yeah:

    Peru can have a rematch with Poland for 1978 and 1982, while Iran can have a rematch with Peru for 1978... Otherwise, I cannot remember any games between Poland and Iran in football, but volleyball rivalry is pretty strong, so football would do as well, and Panama is new so I cannot recall any games against them - would be something fresh.

    If we get England instead of Peru, I would like it too, since we have long lasting rivalry with them as well, and are long overdue for a victory.
     
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  23. themanlarry

    themanlarry Member+

    Nov 14, 2005
    Another group simulator:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/russia-2018-world-cup-draw-simulator/
    This one also includes a knockout stage (with upsets) and gives a champion.

    I really hope Group A is balanced (or 'weak') for the sake of Russia and the tournament, and that England is drawn into Brazil, Argentina, or Portugal's group (as some of the best England games in my lifetime involved those teams).
     
  24. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pot 1 & 2: No matter who the host is. I never want the Host nation in our group. I am fine with any other team from Pot 1 as long as we do not get Spain or England from Pot 2.

    Pot 3: Iran

    Pot 4: Not really fussed who we get from pot 4. If I have to pick one team that I really want to avoid, my choice would be Nigeria only because we had them in last WC.
     

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