Die 05/06 Rot-Weisse Invasion VfB Stuttgart Thread (R)

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  1. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #451 footyfan1, Oct 17, 2005

    That's because before Sammer's arrival, the players DID PERFORM!

    Once a team's spirit is broken, it's hard to get it back. Just look at BVB.......
     
  2. Concertmusic

    Concertmusic New Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    #452 Concertmusic, Oct 18, 2005
    I think Trap is history. When the club officers give you an ultimatum, especially one with a time attached (3 weeks, according to Kicker), they are essentially saying: "Let's see if the players support the coach. If the playing does not improve, then the players are not behind the coach, and he must go."

    I would not be surprised if there will be no improvement to speak of, because the players look lost, and frustrated - I think they have lost confidence in Trap, if they ever had it.

    3 weeks is a reasonable time to see if things change - IMO, in November we'll have a new coach.
     
  3. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    #453 Dead Fingers, Oct 18, 2005
    But it seems that Sammer got at least something out of the players. :eek:
    Who would you replace Trap with?
     
  4. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    #454 aloisius, Oct 18, 2005
    In which language?
     
  5. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #455 footyfan1, Oct 18, 2005

    Krassimir Balakov.
     
  6. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    #456 Dead Fingers, Oct 18, 2005
    any coaching experience? He retired, what, two years ago?
     
  7. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #457 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    Croatian. A friend of mine is Croatian, he told me.
     
  8. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #458 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    He was assistant coach for one season under Magath and then under Sammer. He isn't it anymore though as he left just before Sammer was dismissed. I don't think Balakov would accept to coach us though as he has such good relations with the whole club and the fans love him and therefore i don't think he'd isk himself at such a precious time.
     
  9. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #459 footyfan1, Oct 18, 2005

    I don't profess to know more than you on VfB Stuttgart, but I think that's exactly why they would ask Balakov to return and why Balakov would not ignore the club in it's hour of need..........
     
  10. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #460 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    I dunno, before the Bayern game on the last day last season, there was a 5 minute tribute to Krassimir after having been with us in some role or another for around a decade. It was an official goodbye, so that suggests to me that he won't return. I'd be happy if he does though :)
     
  11. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #461 footyfan1, Oct 18, 2005

    Since when does an "offical goodbye" mean a person will never return? I know I'm pushing for the day we bring Juergen Kohler back to BVB in some capacity.
     
  12. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #462 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    Well, i hope your right. IMO, we'll see in a few weeks. Hopefully not, though.
     
  13. Concertmusic

    Concertmusic New Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    #463 Concertmusic, Oct 18, 2005
    Balakov is playing some role at VFC Plauen, in the Oberliga NOFV-Sued. I think he is player-manager there - not sure exactly what role he has.

    How about Karl-Heinz Foerster? He is at Hoffenheim, which is close to Stuttgart.
     
  14. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #464 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    In my opinion we need someone with more experience than a third league coach. Balakov i'd be satisfied with, Foerster i wouldn't. i heard Hitzfeld wants a job again ;)

    But lets be serious, we still have Trap. lets just hope they improve and we don't need to go change coach.
     
  15. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #465 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    BTW, concertmusic, excuse my ignorance but who's CCFC?
     
  16. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #466 footyfan1, Oct 18, 2005

    My guess is Coventry City......
     
  17. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #467 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 18, 2005
    Yeah, i think your right. When were they last in the Premiership? 2002 if my memory is correct? Or was it before?
     
  18. Concertmusic

    Concertmusic New Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    #468 Concertmusic, Oct 19, 2005
    You are correct. And let's not talk about City in the Premiership; I'll be happy just to stay in the Championship. For anyone familiar with Coventry managers of the last few years, as long as VfB don't hire Gordon Strachan, I'll be happy :D
     
  19. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #469 footyfan1, Oct 19, 2005

    I know what you mean! Celtic are rueing that horrible mistake right now!
     
  20. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #470 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 20, 2005
    10 minutes to match-time! I'll be watching on ZDF and hopefully Jon Dahl's presence will inspire the team to a win and three points. That would be really tough, i'll be satisfied with a point.

    Auswaertssieg!
     
  21. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    #471 F96, Oct 20, 2005
    What a boring game. :(
     
  22. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #472 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 20, 2005
    HT:

    Rennes 0
    VfB Stuttgart 0

    We aren't playing well, but we're still the better team. The only really big chance fell to Tomasson who uncharacteristically didn't manage to put it in. Besides that, Gronkjaer forced two good saves out of the 20 year old Rennes keeper(who is playing his first profi match!), and that's about it.
     
  23. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    #473 F96, Oct 20, 2005
    Both teams are not really dangerous. Hitzslperger makes some bad really decisions with the ball.
     
  24. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Vfbstuttgartfan Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #474 Vfbstuttgartfan, Oct 20, 2005
    Hitzlsperger is better than usual to be honest.

    Carevic in, maybe he's our luck-bringer!
     
  25. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    #475 F96, Oct 20, 2005
    Wow! So I take it he's not been Stuttgart's best player this season so far?
    That was close. Rennes is getting better.
     
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