Democrats In The Wilderness

We never do, we can all be conned, it just depends on the con selling something that we are already predisposed to buy.

 

I've been saying almost exactly this forever. It doesn't work.

Expect to eventually get berated.

 

Nobody here pays my bills....berate away, I’m just saying it’s misplaced. They can take their righteous indignation somewhere else.

 

Like i said, tried and failed.

There is no reasoning.

 

I assume you don't hear yourself go on about drones and Yemen and such because to you that is not berating at all.

 

I guess you use a different dictionary.

 

Yeah, they same makers of my Atlas.

 

I wont berate you. You just explain to me how all the things you cared about are better now that Hilary didn't win. That is the one thing the Religious right got.

 

Me personally? I got a raise two years in a row and am expecting a promotion at the end of this month.

I don’t buy into the “I gots mine’s” logic. There’s so much more that can be done.

My biggest gripe...



^^^none of these were going to get better under either candidate.

 

Yeah but they did get worse. How is the EPA doing, or Ed or HUD. And I did t mean you personally. I mean Healthcare, tax break, a proper infrastructure bill though the GOP would have killed it. What about the courts, no tax cut, SCOTUS. That is just a short list without touching immigration

 

Hillary campaigned on improving education and health care for poor Americans.

You are lying.

 

For everything she SAID she was going to do, there is documented proof that she acted contrary in the past.

Nevermind her “where was Bernie?” comment about her medical care initiative when she was First Lady. He was literally right behind her.

 

I tried clicking on your links to see that contradictory proof. Were the links broken?

 

No, look them up yourself

 

This is called trolling. If I make a claim, it is incumbent on me to make evidence available.

For example:

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/09/25/494571416/hillary-clintons-plan-for-americas-students

If I make a claim and do NOT provide evidence, then I am making something up.

If I make a claim, provide no evidence, and then tell others to look up my evidence for me, I am a troll.

 

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/th...on_this_is_the_disaster_democrats_must_avoid/

 

Did you, uh, read this?

 

Let’s recap.....

 

So what is your strategy for winning WV as a Democrat? I am just curious.

Bernie runs as a Democrat in VT wins the nod the rejects it and runs as indy but that process means there can be no den candidate in the general. Again riding the den coattails instead of running independent from the start.

 

Better to lose and be pure than to win with some compromises.

 

Stand for something.....is that too much to ask for?

 

At the end of her political career when Margaret Thatcher was asked by a journalist what her greatest accomplishment was, she said "New Labour".

 

If you assume that a place like WV is going to elect an asshole no matter what, you be happy if the less assholic candidate wins.

 

That wall isn't going to happen, so I don't really care about Manchin pretending like it will.

And "standing for something" doesn't do shit if you can't get into office.

Pretty much.

Edited to add: If Manchin comes out in favor of family separation (i.e. something atrocious that is actually happening), then ******** him. The national party would need to cut all funding immediately.