DC Should(n't) Have Congressional Representation

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by American Brummie, Apr 16, 2018.

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Should DC Get Congressional Representation

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  3. NOOOOOO!!!

    20.0%
  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    ********ers
     
  2. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Should the District have Congressional representation? Not just yes, but hell yes.

    Every citizen should have representation in how our government runs, and therefore a say in America's future. Currently, DC residents are denied that. Brummie pointed out that the District does have a member in the House, but a non-voting member is about as effective and powerful as a student representative to a school board.

    Yeah, the District is a special case in America and it is to be the seat of the federal government, and no, the Founders didn't envision the growth of the government, nor did they think that many people would want to live this mosquito-infested swamp on the Potomac. But the government has grown and people live there and that ought not keep people from equal representation in Congress.

    Currently the District has a greater population than Wyoming, a former territory that is largely owned by the federal government, and Vermont, the 14th state. We have small states, we have big states. The Constitution was written based on a compromise that promised something for both. Worries about small states having too much power vis a vis their population is a tension that we've handled pretty well for 230 years.
     
  3. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    New thread idea: Should @superdave's DC United Membership Card be revoked?
     
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  4. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    That's HIGHLY debatable. I personally think we handle it like shit.
     
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  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Moving is expensive.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Moving 500 miles is expensive. Moving 5 miles is not.
     
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is not how democracies are designed. Americans are Americans no matter where they live. If you
    pay US tax dollars, you should be able to participate in deciding
    how those dollars are spent.
     
  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oil's not a movable economy, either. If DC is unsustainable, then let's give all of it save the Mall back to Maryland.
     
  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great idea!
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    It seems strange that Mexico and Brazil an other countries can have their federal districts have representation at the federal level but the US can't. Maybe only countries that don't suck in football can manage this. :(
     
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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So a law where DC citizens are allowed to vote in Maryland elections or receive absentee ballots under the Maryland electoral board.


    Another idea is that all Territories and Americans that live outside the USA get thrown into a new entity that would have 2 Senators and 1 Representative, this will be the Territories "State" you put DC, PR, Guam, Marshall Islands, embassies, ect in that pot.

    3rd Idea, make PR a State (add the Virgin Islands to PR), DC (outside the Washington Mall and surrounding block) go to Maryland, the Pacific Island territories become a state or get added to Hawaii.Then there is the Colonize the Moon idea by Gingrich.

    Then and only then do we invade Canada*



    *But only if Toronto FC wins the CCL, so we can say America (as in USA) has won a CCL.
     
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  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the Mexican Federal District is for all proposes a Mexican State now, but not officially.

    I am sure if New York City was the capital (like some federalist wanted) they would have voting rights by now.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I'm not sure how MD could be compelled to give non-residents the right to vote in its elections. It obviously could do so if it chose.

    As for the small states, as discussed with the mod, ND, SC and Montana will become a part of Canada's new SW Territories and Hawaii and Puerto to be granted independence. Vermont and Maine would be tricky but since they were once part of or claimed by other states, Vermont would revert to NH and Maine to MA.
     
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  14. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shit I would merge all of those states into one super state.
     
  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Nope. They'd still be a burden and complain they don't get enough highway funds.
     
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  16. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I've never understood why people are so quick to believe Maryland would want DC. Sure, it could make sense, but the state's power would immediately leave Annapolis and Baltimore would become even more forgotten. Only the DC suburbs would like that and it's already a struggle for them with as much as the population they have in Maryland.
     
  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Maybe not to you, but to someone with limited income it is.
     
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  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    shit lot of people move into this country every year with very little income, they travel a shit lot longer distances than 5 miles.
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    ...and it's ********ing expensive to do that.

    People who say things like "well just move!" are invariably speaking from a place of privilege and have no perspective on what that sort of action entails.
     
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  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure and people that say it is too hard are also talking from a place of privilege since a shit lot of people do so.

    People should not be told that they have to move, but also saying it is too hard/expensive to do so should not be an excuse, this place was build on people that did just that (and many that were forced to move to small areas, and other that were brought here against their will).
     
  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    So rights should be based on how much people or their ancestors moved?
     
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  22. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had a situation a few years ago where the outcome was me moving, quite literally, next door.

    It took three months and cost thousands of dollars.

    It is expensive to move, no matter the distance.
     
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  23. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Moving next door? Do you not have friends? ;)
     
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  24. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was why we ended up next door. The circumstances were very weird, but we had friends helping out all the way. We lived for free couch-crashing for two months. It was still very, very expensive.
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you knew what I do for a living, you'd know that I'm pretty aware of all this, and I still call BS.
     

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