Dax traded to Nasville

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I agree. I would have preferred all three return (although Bastian return as CM and at much reduced salary), but we should be able to upgrade all three positions.

    A good/excellent center back who is actually a center back.
    A good CDM who is younger, more versatile, and probably less expansive than Dax.
    A world class DP at striker.

    With the three of them gone, the Fire have over $8,000,000 is salary savings ($700k for Dax, $1.9m for Nikolic, $5.6m for Bastian).
    Oh, and dump Marcelo ($798k) and Ousted/Sanchez ($361k and $162k) for a $1.2m additional savings.
    That is well over $9,000,000 to play with on new players, without spending any "new" money.

    Find a new CB at just below DP money.
    Find a CDM at the market rate (again, dumping Mo Adams was dumb).
    Go big on the Designated Player striker. It has to be a major splash.
    Everybody here knows my first choice, a "little pea" from Mexico.

    We will have to cough up more for Gaitan, as he will be a DP next season, so that eats into the money a bit.

    https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide
     
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  2. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I agree dumping Mo Adams was shortsighted and many of us angry raccoons said as much at the time.

    Regarding Gaitan, he's worth the DP money as he's a known commodity, has proven he can be a string puller at this level and is a true game changer. Keep please!
     
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  3. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    This also applies in adult beer league.
     
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  4. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I was a huge Gaitan fan, but I kind of would like to see us move on from him. Especially considering our double pivot is not the 2017 combo of Dax and Basti, I want our 10 to put in some defensive effort to not overwhelm Medran and Bronico(?!). What I am okay with is if Gaitan is brought back as a TAM guy and we put him on the wing. However, that means Katai would have to make room and I think I would prefer Katai over Gaitan. What I would like to see:

    ---------------------DP Striker (Prefer Giroud over a younger option)
    Gaitan/Katai------DP10---------Frankowski
    -----------------DP------------Medran
    Bornstein-----Calvo-----Kappelhof-----Bronico
    ------------------------Kronholm

    Not really sure what else there is in terms of money to spend. We would definitely cash in on something from selling Djordje to Europe. Obvious improvements can be made on that back line. A Bornstein level LB that isn't Bornstein old would be great. Either a good RB or CB(moving Kap to RB) would also be welcome. Then you upgrade the bench beyond Sapong and Bronico.
     
  5. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If the Quintero rumor is true Katai over Gaitan , but I'm greedy and would love all three .

     
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  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Would love it.
     
  7. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I'd obviously love Quintero, I'm just not sure that we're the team in for him, if that rumor is even true. Haven't heard anything about it though so maybe we are. What I do know is that we are in talks with a young striker who would cost in the 8 digits. Never seen this player play before, but quick research has him also linked to a much bigger club. This would be a Cristian Pavon like transfer if it's pulled off, which is why I am skeptical we will get it done.

    Anyways, this is also the wrong thread for it, so apologies there.
     
  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    With Katai, that would require 4 designated players.

    It MIGHT be possible to pay down Katai's salary to bring him back under DP status.

    I doubt Gaitan would take a large enough pay cut to allow him to qualify as a TAM player. It is not likely that we could find $1.5+million of TAM in the cushions of Andrew Hauptman's old office couch.

    Also, why play Gaitan out of position? His skills would not translate as well to the wing.

    Medran? Does anyone know if he is any good?
     
  9. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I thought Katai is a TAM on the option for his contract. I have regularly been reading that over the past year.

    Gaitan has actually played on the left wing quite often in his career. Even when he plays centrally, he has a habit to drift more left. He'd be more tucked in if he is playing on the wing, so a fullback that could provide overlap would be a huge asset in that scenario. I wonder if Joevin Jones has a job. Oh...

    Medran, who knows. He's a TAM guy so he has to be penciled in as a starter.
     
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Let's see about Katai.
    I don't see Gaitan being very effective on the left side
    Agreed about Medran.
     
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  11. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It appears former welsh intl and Celtic player Joe Ledley has been spotted around Chicago with Fire employees . He also posted to instragam pictures of his stay in Chicago.
    He's been out of contract (Derby county) since January , and had some hip issues . He would be Dax's obvious replacement . A younger Ledley would no question be an upgrade , but I don't know about current Joe as there is an 11 month gap of unknown .
     
  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If Ledley is healthy, he would be a good pick up.

    He is 32, but has not played that much over the past few years, so a healthy Joe Lesley could be a player for years to come.

    Would he have the amazing beard?
     
  13. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think there's a signing bonus for the full beard. _105427837_rexfeatures_9787737ge.jpg
     
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  14. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Where do I sign?
     
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  15. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019


    So yeah, here's that guy
     
  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
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    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
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  17. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/11/12/official-dax-mccarty-traded-nashville-sc

    “We are entering a new cycle with the team’s roster. Dax helped us through an important stage in the Club’s history and he will be remembered among our fans’ most favorite players. We wish Dax and his family all the best with their new opportunity in Nashville.” - Nelly

    I thought there was a new cycle every year with Nelly at the helm? Important stage in the club's history? He must get some good weed in Jersey.
     
  18. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    To be fair Nelly seems more of club/designer drug type guy. ...



     
  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Douche bags gonna douche.

    What "cycle"?
     
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  20. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Suck---->Sell all good players----->Spend all GAM/TAM, etc.---->Suck a little less---->Ruin all decent players with terrible coaching/training---->repeat
     
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  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I thought that was the "Process."
    "Trust the Process"
     
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  22. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I've definitely noticed this "process" "cycling" over the last decade.
     
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  23. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    So, I feel like I'm missing something. If Nashville wanted him, presumably they could have gotten him for nothing in the expansion draft, no?
     
  24. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We could have protected him... maybe they didn't want to risk that
     
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  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If, and this is a big if, the Fire left him unprotected.

    Considering his salary, it is possible.
    Considering he was the captain, it was not likely.
     

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