Dark Knight Please Explain

Discussion in 'Customer Service' started by Dirt McGirt, Mar 31, 2007.

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  1. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    in the end.. nothing got solved in the first place... posters that are regulars can still troll on guests of a forum and not get carded.. but the guests get immediate reprisal...
     
  2. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what you're saying is everything is exactly as it should be, and this thread served its purpose beautifully. Like the BigSoccer version of the Warren Commission, good show boys!
     
  3. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    read this



    obviously theres a problem to solve there isnt there............
     
  4. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Yank Abroads suck, what's new?
     
  5. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the input, Socrates.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cite an example of this from YA. M did so, and it did not fit a trolling post.
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    New York City FC
  8. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How would you know?

    Honest question.
     
  9. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    [jeopardy]What is biased moderating, biased opinions, biased analysis and a bunch of fanboys?[/jeopardy] :p

    Really, it's not hard to see how biased that forum is. Jaypro's post above me (quoting posts from over there) and previous links that have been posted here in the previous pages expose YA.
     
  11. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sucks I know.

    Honest answer.

    Did your parents teach you to make excuses for all of your failings or is it how you deal with your favorite players shortcomings? What's your excuse for DC sucking so bad. Who's to blame for Gooch's slow feet and Tim Howard's crappy second year at Man U? Steve Coppell was idiot Convey's first year right? Second year he's a genius right? Your a pathetic broken record. Your posts are as predictable and poor as the winter weather in Seattle. It's time to grow up Dave and face reality. Your a boring and crappy poster that resorts to being a bully when outwitted and undone by your own inept and ignorant posts. You would do us all great service by removing yourself from this thread and Big Soccer. I hear Xtratime needs a inarticulate, uninformed excuse maker in it's Yanks Abroad forum. Why don't you submit a writing sample and your "Sandwich Artist" resume over there now and spare the rest of us the pain of listening to your fanboy moaning.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Dark Knight again.
     
  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Wow.

    Uh, Jay. It's a soccer fan forum.

    You might want to take Pancho and step away from the windmills.

    Have your tried grow lights? Or vitamin D? Of just a cheap Alaska ticket to Cabo? Or something. I know it's that time of year up there where everyone goes a little SAD but I gotta admit, I'm a little concerned.
     
  14. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No shit. :D I just got back from PHX so I've got enough energy to last until the sun comes out in June.
     
  15. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    In your opinion. In mine - and others - it was a very weak and lame troll, which is exactly why I posted it:- to indicate how spazzos can post like that whereas had the situation been reversed, the poster likely would have been abused by the normal culprits and potentially warned by the moderator.
     
  16. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hate to break it to you, but YA is far from the only forum where this (allegedly) happens. I've seen the same happen numerous times in team forums. Or had it happen to me...
     
  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Oh, I agree entirely... it's one of the unfortunate aspects of BS that it has become so Balkanised that banter - which to me is part and parcel of being a football fan - is handled in such a biased fashion by some moderators. Personally I don't have the slightest problem with the fact that jri posted that harmless troll - it even made me chuckle for a nanosecond - but what I do have a problem with is when one category of poster is treated differently from another.
     
  18. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really that's unfortunate but this thread is regarding the bias in moderating in regards to YA. Why should posters be attacked in YA if I post less then complimentary things about a player and why does DK allow it? So far no answer other than "YA isn't for everyone." If your an American your a Yank so thus it's not trolling and you have a right to access the forum and fair treatment under the TOS? Now if you change the forum to Dipshit Lounge it's obvious I don't belong there and I wouldn't post in said thread.
     
  19. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Regarding my post above, I don't actually care that moderating is biased in favor of the locals. Yeah it can get out of hand, but if you're going to come in and be relentlessly negative about the subject of a thread, you should expect a little retaliation (and in this case I think a lot of the retaliation was more playful than nasty, including most of the referenced posts). Banter is one thing, banter with an obvious bias (even if not to the poster in question) is another.

    And seriously, I don't see YA as being all that bad. Yeah there are a few dipshits, but it's not that difficult to scroll past them or put them on your ignore list, and most of the people who hang out there are fine. (The USA Men's forum after a match, now THAT'S where the idiots come to play...)
     
  20. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's fine but I would counter that Newcastle posters didn't jump into YA until certain regulars started blaming the club for all of Gooch's problems. It was very similar to what happened when Tim Howard craped his pants while he was with ManUre. The Toon supporters reaction was to be expected when you consider the amount of erroneous and hostile postings directed at the club,other players, and fans.

    YA is forum supposed to be about American players overseas so I don't see the problem with Americans or anyone else for that matter posting their opinions and especially American supporters of a team with a Yank on the field. If anything the team supporters will have a better understanding of the particular Yanks situation. Now if DK doesn't want to hear analysis of YA then he should set up a fans lounge for those only interested in fun ,light hearted cheering of players. I proposed this and he balked.
     
  21. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    New York City FC

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7908225&postcount=12

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10551129&postcount=137


    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6054656&postcount=35


    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6806225&postcount=11

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6059812&postcount=46

     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  23. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually did more than say "I spent 15 second reading that post..." I actually read each link...

    This is superdave. You have something against him, so citing a superdave post does not really prove your point.

    If you consider stupid posts trolling, sure.

    Same poster, yet agitated. Insulting if you think with your heart. I believe in a higher standard of posting and responce (and so does DK). So while this was stupid, and sticks and stones namecalling, it was not really that bad.

    Geez, even I can read the sarcasm in that post.

    (at this point, I'm hoping a different thread is linked)
    (this is a different thread, btw)
    huh?

    It's a Gooch thread. He strongly disagrees with the Statman, but clearly says he is following Gooch and not Newcastle. A Newcastle supporter should know not to engage this guy.

    Back to this? Really?

    Dripping with sarcasm. If you would learn to relax a bit and not take this as life or death, you'd be fine.

    I don't know what to say. I guess you really get riled up by some stupid posting and some good sarcasm....your choice. *shrug*
     
  24. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    S'alright. I'm forgiving of my inferiors.
     
  25. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the above posts prove that I'm in fact not a troll in YA but Yank fan that was unfairly targeted by the regulars when I strayed from the party line and because I rebelled against commonly held opinions on YA, I was awarded a forum ban. It's what I've been saying from the beginning. ;)

    Is that all you guys got? Maybe Jimmy Olsen can post some more pictures of Jesus or SuperDave can post "Naahh Aahh I'm not a fanboy jerk!" once he get's off his shift at Subway. Seriously guys raise your game.

    Dark Knight do you actually get paid to be an admin?
     

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