Cricket is (still) vastly superior to baseball

Discussion in 'Chelsea Off Topic Threads' started by BridgeMonkee, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Cricket is better than baseball. :p

    It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. If you have a ‘world’ series you really should invite the world to show up. I began asking around. Some fans noted that Toronto has a team. Others mentioned the ever-increasing influx of non-American players on Major League Baseball rosters.
    Yet the Toronto Blue Jays do not really represent Canada, and those international players aren't playing for their native countries when they put on the jerseys of the Baltimore Orioles or the Kansas City Royals or the San Francisco Giants. At the end of the day, when the American League champion takes on the National League champion in the fall, there is little "worldly" about it. It's just an all-American ball game. Globally speaking it is a minor occasion for an irrelevant sport.

    Now Cricket that is a real sport. A GLOBAL sport with a proper World Cup. Creag has been around since the middle ages. Which is long before America was a gleam in some British bloke’s eye.

    Cricket in played with the batsmen in the middle of an oval shaped field (the "cricket ground"). There is no foul territory in cricket. You can hit the ball in any direction, including directly behind you. Cricket bats have a flat edge (well, it's slightly rounded) so that the batsman can direct the ball in a preferred direction. Batting in cricket is way more involved than in baseball. There are several different "strokes" (not "swings"), and batsmen are often known for being good at particular ones rather than others. Cricket is the game that gave us the saying "different strokes for different blokes". So, in Cricket there are greater variables in batting, greater skills and strategies. Baseball ‘slugging’ has a very limited repertoire. Cricket has more timing, tactics, skill and grace.

    Cricketers look like athletes as opposed to the baseball players who look like slobs on steroids.

    In cricket, the pitchers are called "bowlers."

    Bowlers cannot *throw* the ball. They must bowl it. The crucial difference is: when you throw a ball, at the end of the motion you are straightening your elbow. When you bowl, your elbow is straight almost the whole time (except at the very beginning) so you're making this wide circular arc with your arm.

    When you bowl the ball toward the batsman, it's OK for the ball to bounce off the ground before it reaches him. In fact, 99.9% of the time, this is exactly what happens. What this means is that there are many more variables [and strategies]. The bowler can do more things with the ball... not only move it in the air, like baseball pitchers do, but also "break", i.e. change directions after bouncing off the ground. By combining movement in the air with "breaks" off the ground, and also varying his length at the same time, he can throw some very complicated pitches. Think about the spin bowlers from India and Pakistan and how they can completely change the direction of the ball.

    In cricket, unlike baseball, the bowler can take a running start. In fact, the "fast bowlers," as they're called, are running at a flat-out sprint when they release the ball. Think of the 6ft 8” fast bowler like Joel Garner from Jamaica and then release the ball at speed. Fast bowling is a truly awesome, scary and dangerous business. A cricket ball can come at you with spin at 40mph or fast at 100 mph and all the variables between.

    It should be noted that short pitched balls aimed at the batsmen are not and have never been illegal and are in widespread use as a tactic. So, yes the bowler is aiming for your head. This is an aggressive game. Stand your ground in front of the wicket.

    One of the biggest differences that both the games have is the pitch. I am talking about those 22 yards of clay that cricket has and baseball doesn't. You may argue that what's the big deal about that? The big deal is, that it is these 22 yards or what is commonly called 'the pitch', which makes cricket the great game that baseball isn't. The pitch adds so many dimensions to the game that a baseball fan cannot even imagine.

    The absence of these 22 yards makes baseball far too predictable. Since the ball has to be bowled waist high to the batter, it makes the batters task that much simpler. On the other hand in cricket, the batsman has to judge the line and the bounce of the ball correctly and in a fraction of second has to decide the most suitable shot for that particular ball. As for baseball, the batter can just set himself for the shot in advance because he knows that the ball can only be pitched in a very limited area and he doesn't has to worry about the bounce and the line of the ball. The shot which most of the baseball batters play is called a slog in cricketing terms and even the worst of cricket batsmen would fancy himself playing such a shot. This can not be said about the baseball batters. I am sure, that a baseball batter would struggle to even make contact with the ball if he bats on a cricket pitch and against a cricket bowler. Batting in cricket is all about the right footwork, technique and timing which unfortunately is missing in cricket's poorer cousin.

    If you think that baseball players are tougher than their cricket counterparts, then think again. I mean to say that if they are so tough then why do they need those big gloves to take the catches? At the end of the day it's no big deal to stop the ball with a thick glove. On the contrary, the cricketers use bare hands to stop the hard leather ball, which can be coming at you like a bullet. If you don't believe me try it yourself and if you are still not satisfied then try the same on a chilly day. I can tell you that once you try this out you would definitely know who is tougher.

    Cricket has better fans. Simple as that. Compare the Aussies or the English Barmy-Army with American baseball fans who have to leave early so as to get out of the parking lot. Watching Test Match cricket is a carnival whereas watching baseball is a sedate and passive pastime, an opportunity to eat a hot dog or two or three. . .

    Ever since the development of baseball, the ubiquitous and simplified version of the sport, Americans have been lost to the more demanding challenges — and pleasures — of cricket . . . In any event, nothing about cricket seems suited to the American national character: its rich complexity, the infinite possibilities that could occur with each delivery of the ball, the dozen different ways of getting out, are all patterned for a society of endless forms and varieties, not of a homogenized McWorld.
     
  2. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
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    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
  3. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
    Olympia, WA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah.

    Baseball is better. I thought everyone knew that. :confused:
     
  4. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Cricketers are athletes y'know:

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  5. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Oh, come now surely the yanks can construct a better argument than that? I mean I am all in favour of visual literacy but if you are incapable of constructing an intelligent argument as to why your stupid baseball is better than cricket surely you can do better than 'clip art'? :p


    I repeat [for the hard of hearing and the fundamentally retarded] : . . . In any event, nothing about cricket seems suited to the American national character: its rich complexity, the infinite possibilities that could occur with each delivery of the ball, the dozen different ways of getting out, are all patterned for a society of endless forms and varieties, not of a homogenized McWorld.

    baseball is for wankers, retarded wankers
     
  6. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    both sports are gay,i thought that was fairly obivious.

    man up you bitches,hurlings were it's at....
     
  7. CanadaBlue

    CanadaBlue Member

    Chelsea
    Feb 2, 2005
    Redding, California
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    One word - Lacrosse.

    Hockey on grass, where you are allowed to wail away at your opponents with your stick.
     
  8. Eddie26

    Eddie26 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 23, 2004
    Pittsadelphia
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    That was too long to read.
     
  9. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    I think this is the perfect place to discuss baseball now! I'm going to an Angel game in a couple of weeks (free tickets). I'm looking forward to the Mickey Mouse atmosphere, and fireworks for the starting lineup. It's a fookin carnival.
     
  10. Eddie26

    Eddie26 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 23, 2004
    Pittsadelphia
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I went to the Pirates-Padres game last night. Nady played in the first inning then came out. I immediately turned to the guy next to me and said "They just traded him." Sure enough I saw Marte come running in from the bullpen and I was knew they traded both.

    There goes my hope of a possible .500 season.
     
  11. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Wow. That's crazy stuff. Nady is turning into a journeyman. He's back in New York...the other side of it.

    It's funny that the Dodgers are spending $70m more than your Pirates, and we too are hoping that we have a .500 season.

    The difference is that our division is so crap, that a .500 season might be enough to win it.
     
  12. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Also Soul Limbo is the coolest theme tune in any sport.
     
  13. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    All bow down to ice hockey and the greatest team in the NHL: The Red Wings!!!! :D EDIT: I should add that we have our own version of celery! Octopi throwing!

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  14. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
    Olympia, WA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And here comes the playoffs for us. :D
    Ohlendorf and Tabata aren't too bad hopefully they'll turn out good for you guys.
     
  15. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ice hockey is fun and brutal.

    Cricket is ********ing brilliant. There is nothing more English than cricket. The tactics, the patience, the manners shown (usually). It's a beautiful game.
     
  16. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Ahhhhhhh manners. Beautiful manners. The key to any good sport.
     
  17. Randy36

    Randy36 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Houston
    Corked bats, pine tar, and steroids are well known in baseball. The game is notorious for the phrase "if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying". Managers screaming and fighting with umpires is quite common.

    Cricket is far superior to baseball!
     
  18. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    sorry bud but ice hockey aint a field sport....not by a long shot,for a start it's played on ice f.f.s.

    dispite my personal hatred for the gaa,i still respect the players who dont get paid,yet still lay it all on the line for their countys pride....

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    a real mans game.......
     
  19. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Good game that. I remember heading to a pub in Reading with some of my Irish co-workers about 10 years ago to cheer on Clare (who lost that day to Kilkenny).

    IIRC Clare wore yellow and blue, Kilkenny yellow and black narrow stripes (and they had some kind of legend playing for them). Hella good fun and nicely violent to boot.
     
  20. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.

    you've a good memory bud.
    D.J. Carey was more than likely the black cats legend you saw that day.
    a truely fantastic sportsman dispite not being from the rebal county ;)
    he was something special alright....

    the main thing that sets it apart from all other sports is the simple rule that you can only play for the county your from.

    no pay,no transfers,just pride...
     
  21. Randy36

    Randy36 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Houston
    Gone are the days of Mick Mackey, Christy Ring, Jim Langton, Jimmy Kennedy, Jack Lynch. Players my dad used to rave about!
     
  22. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    And you can see it when they hit the field. They play hard because they should, not because they're paid too.

    I liken it to aerial hockey only much faster. It's what Lacrosse (amazingly played only by girls at high school age in England) could be if they took away the pads and netted sticks.
     
  23. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    those days are gone,but this generation have new heros to look up to in the modern game.

    what part of the country was your father from?
     
  24. Randy36

    Randy36 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Houston
    srd,

    I have watched Cork, Tipperary, Kilkenny etc, on Setanta recently. Tipp look like an excellent team!

    Who do you think will win the ALL-IRELAND this year?
     
  25. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    The Dodgers got a shutout yesterday! Incredible!
     

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