Cordiero: Confederations Cup To End, Gold Cup Could End After 2021

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    South America could use another tournament. With only 10 countries and only one Copa per cycle, they're by far the confederation with fewest meaningful games and that's not good.

    Of course the big pressure comes from the big Euro money. The big clubs have many South Americans and they'd hate them playing more games for their NTs (even if they don't seem to mind when the European players play more in Europe, guess they figure they are safer because of refereeing or field conditions or less travel time or just 'cuz Yoorop).
     
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  2. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Good and Interesting points.
     
  3. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing is clear: US Soccer has to get away from Concacaf, the kiddie table of world soccer (well, that and Oceania, but I digress). If the USA wants to win a World Cup, it needs to play games against serious competition.
     
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  4. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I'm still quite bitter about the new World Cup format, for reasons that have already been debated to death.

    But regular Copa America participation or an expanded tournament would be a pretty meaningful consolation. I could actually see that becoming the highlight of the cycle for me if we took it seriously.
     
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  5. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. It would probably be more competitive than the World Cup itself on a median team basis.
     
  6. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    And still, the US will be the dominant team in the Fed w/in about a decade. And, there will be no looking back.

    The U.S. has been competitive in the Fed since '94 with no, or only a nascent, academy system. Now, all MLS teams and some USL teams have a academies. Today I watched 20 year old McKennie (Dallas FC) put in a very good shift against ManCity. Schalke was leading 2-1 when he left, they lost 3-2.

    20 year old Adams (NYRB) is playing well in the BL.

    Sargent played for Scott Gallagher Missouri, a U.S. Soccer Development Academy Club.

    We've never had anything close to the development we have now. Enjoy your favorable position while it lasts.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    okay, not sure what any of that has to with the US soccer President??? None of that has anything to do with him.
     
  8. Jay510

    Jay510 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Madison, Wi
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good to see you 2 dragged your p!ssing contest out of WR for some legitimate banter for a change. Or are you both lost?
     
  9. Jay510

    Jay510 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Madison, Wi
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There needs to be a qualification system or something. If you are going to give spots to the top 3 CONCACAF and all conmebol teams, you need to have a qualie for the rest of concacaf (maybe use the league), and you gotta get the teams in the tourney up to 24.

    I know Argentina vs Haiti would be rough, but not sure how to Improve concacaf otherwise.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Top 3 in CONCACAF right now would be Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama, no?
     
  11. Magikfute

    Magikfute Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you’d have to say that until we or someone else prove otherwise.
     
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  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Maybe they should concentrate on beating Trinidad and Tobago B team before having such aspirations?
     
  13. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.
     
  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They play, by far, the longest and most grueling WCF campaign. I'd say those 18 meaningful games each cycle are MORE than anyone else.
     
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  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ah true. The CONMEBOL qualifiers, the best of the lot by far.
     
  16. STR1

    STR1 Member

    May 29, 2010
    McAllen, TX
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But why give a spot to Canada? The 6 hex teams should be on it if they do go ahead with it.
     
  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The Gold Cup would serve as qualifier for Copa America.
     
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  18. STR1

    STR1 Member

    May 29, 2010
    McAllen, TX
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That wouldn't be a bad idea.
     
  19. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the dollars are right everyone will be in. The big thing will be where it’s held. I get the US wanting to use it as a test run for the WC. But I hope the South American teams won’t let this be a Gold Cup 2.0 only in the US only. The article doesn’t say but I hope that’s not what their going for.
     
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  21. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm taking a wild guess here that the CONMEBOL countries are trying to make money here. They can make the most money in the USA, and I don't think it's even really close.

    I wouldn't hold your breath.
     
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  22. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s fine all and dandy but these South American country’s can make money at home too. Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay can all lay claim to not need the US. Not every team in the region needs to host it. It should be rotated between countries that can. Trust me I’m not.
     
  23. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the job is to make money, there's no reason not to make the most of it.

    I could understand if it were supplanting the Copa, because there's tradition there, but it looks more like a money grab. If it's a money grab, they won't be looking to grab 2 million each when they could grab 20 million each.

    And, I think the differences in sponsorship/TV rights, particularly as soccer grows in this country, will make this tournament orders of magnitude more profitable here compared to South America.
     
  24. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Continental Cup 2020. Love it!
     

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