Copa Libertadores 2015 [r]

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  1. JAIME CHILE

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    http://www.cooperativa.cl/noticias/...copa-libertadores-2015/2014-12-02/190419.html
    El miércoles 3 de diciembre se sortearon los grupos de la Copa Libertadores 2015:

    Primera fase

    Llave 1: Perú 3 - Huracán
    Llave 2: Ecuador 3 - Argentina 6
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira - Paraguay 3
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia - The Strongest
    Llave 5: Chile 3 - Nacional de Uruguay
    Llave 6: Inter de Porto Alegre o Corinthians - Colombia 3

    Fase de grupos

    Grupo 1: Atlético Mineiro - Colombia 2 - Colo Colo - Atlas
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo - Sao Paulo - Danubio - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Brasil 1 - Mineros de Guayana - U. de Sucre - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Emelec - Inter o Corinthians - U. de Chile o S. Wanderers - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate - Perú 2 - San José de Oruro - Tigres
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional - Ecuador 2 - Libertad - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Perú 1 - Argentina 3 - Paraguay 2 - Ganador Llave 3
     
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  2. JAIME CHILE

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    Apr 26, 2006
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    1a fase (4 al 11 de febrero):

    Llave 1: Alianza Lima(PER) vs Atlético Huracán(ARG)
    Llave 2: Ecuador 3 - Argentina 6
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira(VEN) - Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia(MÉJ) - The Strongest(BOL)
    Llave 5: Chile 3 - Nacional(URU)
    Llave 6: Corinthians(BRA) - Colombia 3

    Fase de grupos (18 de febrero al 22 de abril):

    Grupo 1: Atlético-MG(BRA) - Colombia 2 - Colo Colo(CHI) - Atlas(MÉJ)
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo(ARG) - Sao Paulo(BRA) - Danubio(URU) - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Cruzeiro(BRA) - Mineros de Guayana(VEN) - Universitario de Sucre(BOL) - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Ecuador 1 - Internacional(BRA) - Univ. de Chile(CHI) - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora(VEN) - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers(URU) - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate(ARG) - Perú 2 - San José(BOL) - Tigres(MÉJ)
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional(COL) - Ecuador 2 - Libertad(PAR) - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Perú 1 - Argentina 3 - Guaraní(PAR) - Ganador Llave 3

    8°s de final (29 de abril al 13 de mayo).

    4°s de final (20 al 27 de mayo).

    Copa América Chile 2015 (junio-julio).

    Semifinales (15 al 22 de julio).

    FINAL (29 de julio y 5 de agosto).
     
  3. RiverGaucho

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    There can only be one winner: River.

    If anyone thinks another team is capable of winner please share and explain yourselves
     
  4. Century's Best

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    USA
    You are speaking from your heart. Not that I blame you given your team has just won a continental cup. But that alone doesn't mean CARP will be the 2015 Libertadores champion.

    Every year there are contenders. There are teams which surprise and teams which underachieve. Moreover, as the end-of-year reshuffling starts, teams will scramble to get rid of certain players and sign better ones. Not to mention new managers.

    The Libertadores can be unpredictable. Or did anybody think Nacional of Paraguay would have gone to the final after eliminating Velez Sarsfield? Or that Bolivar would have gone as far as it did?

    Each match must be played. Your team is at a good place and it will definitely be competitive next year. But there are no guarantees it will be the champion.
     
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  5. MetroChile

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    I have faith in Chile's la U: an experienced coach in Lasarte and a solid squad.
     
  6. JAIME CHILE

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    Apr 26, 2006
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    1a fase (4 al 11 de febrero):

    Llave 1: Alianza Lima(PER) vs Atlético Huracán(ARG)
    Llave 2: Independiente del Valle(ECU) - Argentina 6
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira(VEN) - Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia(MÉJ) - The Strongest(BOL)
    Llave 5: Chile 3(Palestino o S.Wanderers) - Nacional(URU)
    Llave 6: Corinthians(BRA) - Colombia 3

    Fase de grupos (18 de febrero al 22 de abril):

    Grupo 1: Atlético-MG(BRA) - Colombia 2 - Colo Colo(CHI) - Atlas(MÉJ)
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo(ARG) - Sao Paulo(BRA) - Danubio(URU) - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Cruzeiro(BRA) - Mineros de Guayana(VEN) - Universitario de Sucre(BOL) - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Ecuador 1 - Internacional(BRA) - Univ. de Chile(CHI) - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora(VEN) - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers(URU) - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate(ARG) - Juan Aurich(PER) - San José(BOL) - Tigres(MÉJ)
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional(COL) - Ecuador 2 - Libertad(PAR) - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Perú 1 - Racing(ARG) - Guaraní(PAR) - Ganador Llave 3
     
  7. JAIME CHILE

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    Apr 26, 2006
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    1a fase (4 al 11 de febrero):

    Llave 1: Alianza Lima(PER) vs Atlético Huracán(ARG)
    Llave 2: Independiente del Valle(ECU) - Argentina 6
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira(VEN) - Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia(MÉJ) - The Strongest(BOL)
    Llave 5: Palestino(CHI) - Nacional(URU)
    Llave 6: Corinthians(BRA) - Colombia 3

    Fase de grupos (18 de febrero al 22 de abril):

    Grupo 1: Atlético-MG(BRA) - Colombia 2 - Colo Colo(CHI) - Atlas(MÉJ)
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo(ARG) - Sao Paulo(BRA) - Danubio(URU) - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Cruzeiro(BRA) - Mineros de Guayana(VEN) - Universitario de Sucre(BOL) - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Emelec(ECU) - Internacional(BRA) - Univ. de Chile(CHI) - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora(VEN) - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers(URU) - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate(ARG) - Juan Aurich(PER) - San José(BOL) - Tigres(MÉJ)
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional(COL) - Barcelona(ECU) - Libertad(PAR) - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Sporting Cristal(PER) - Racing(ARG) - Guaraní(PAR) - Ganador Llave 3
     
  8. Sandinista

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    So, Sporting Cristal...

    We meet again...
     
  9. JAIME CHILE

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    1a fase (4 al 11 de febrero):

    Llave 1: Alianza Lima(PER) vs Atlético Huracán(ARG):eek:
    Llave 2: Independiente del Valle(ECU) - Argentina 6
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira(VEN) - Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia(MÉJ) - The Strongest(BOL)
    Llave 5: Palestino(CHI):eek: - Nacional(URU)
    Llave 6: Corinthians(BRA) - Once Caldas(COL)

    Fase de grupos (18 de febrero al 22 de abril):

    Grupo 1: Atlético-MG(BRA) - Indpte.de Santa Fe(COL) - Colo Colo(CHI) - Atlas(MÉJ)
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo(ARG) - Sao Paulo(BRA) - Danubio(URU) - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Cruzeiro(BRA) - Mineros de Guayana(VEN) - Universitario de Sucre(BOL) - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Emelec(ECU) - Internacional(BRA) - Univ. de Chile(CHI) - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora(VEN) - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers(URU) - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate(ARG) - Juan Aurich(PER) - San José(BOL) - Tigres(MÉJ)
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional(COL) - Barcelona(ECU) - Libertad(PAR) - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Sporting Cristal(PER) - Racing(ARG) - Guaraní(PAR) - Ganador Llave 3
     
  10. Century's Best

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    A serious group: we face last year's winners, a Uruguayan team, and possibly, Corinthians - which would be tough as it'd be 2 bitter crosstown matches, but we would only need to cross the city; no need for international travel.
     
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  11. JAIME CHILE

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    Apr 26, 2006
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    1a fase (4 al 11 de febrero):

    Llave 1: Alianza Lima(PER) vs Atlético Huracán(ARG):eek:
    Llave 2: Independiente del Valle(ECU) - Boca Juniors(ARG) o Estudiantes de La Plata(ARG)
    Llave 3: Deportivo Táchira(VEN) - Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Llave 4: Monarcas Morelia(MÉJ) - The Strongest(BOL)
    Llave 5: Palestino(CHI):eek: - Nacional(URU)
    Llave 6: Corinthians(BRA) - Once Caldas(COL)

    Fase de grupos (18 de febrero al 22 de abril):

    Grupo 1: Atlético-MG(BRA) - Indpte.de Santa Fe(COL) - Colo Colo(CHI) - Atlas(MÉJ)
    Grupo 2: San Lorenzo(ARG) - Sao Paulo(BRA) - Danubio(URU) - Ganador Llave 6
    Grupo 3: Cruzeiro(BRA) - Mineros de Guayana(VEN) - Universitario de Sucre(BOL) - Ganador Llave 1
    Grupo 4: Emelec(ECU) - Internacional(BRA) - Univ. de Chile(CHI) - Ganador Llave 4
    Grupo 5: Zamora(VEN) - Argentina 4 - Montevideo Wanderers(URU) - Ganador Llave 5
    Grupo 6: River Plate(ARG) - Juan Aurich(PER) - San José(BOL) - Tigres(MÉJ)
    Grupo 7: Atlético Nacional(COL) - Barcelona(ECU) - Libertad(PAR) - Ganador Llave 2
    Grupo 8: Sporting Cristal(PER) - Racing(ARG) - Guaraní(PAR) - Ganador Llave 3
     
  12. chaski

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  13. argentine soccer fan

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    #13 argentine soccer fan, Feb 1, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2015
    Disfrutá tu copita sudamericana, gashina, porque en LA LIBERTADORES a los Bosteros este año no los para nadie.

    We now have the missing piece...
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    Gallego, Uruguayo, Bostero, Futuro Campeón de América y del Mundial de Clubes.

    And just to make sure...
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    El verdugo de Neymar, tiemblan los Brasileños!

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    ¿Para que jugar los partidos? Dénle la copa a Boquita de una vez. :D
     
  14. RiverGaucho

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    That picture is of federico fernandez dumb @$$
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

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    Fixed. What about this picture?
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  16. JAIME CHILE

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    Apr 26, 2006
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    1a fase, ida:

    Martes 3:
    Alianza de Lima(PER) vs Atl.Huracán(ARG)
    Monarcas de Morelia(MÉJ) vs The Strongest(BOL)

    Miércoles 4:
    Deportivo Táchira(VEN) vs Cerro Porteño(PAR)
    Corinthians(BRA) vs Once Caldas(COL)

    Jueves 5:
    Palestino(PAL) vs Nacional de Montevideo(URU)
    Independiente del Valle(ECU) vs Estudiantes de La Plata(ARG)
     
  17. RiverGaucho

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    Vos dijiste hace unos días que son solo partidos amistosos de pretemporada. Ahora estas de fiesta, y la verdad que me da risa. Anda a festejar tu amistoso que tanto valoras, yo me quedo con esto

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  18. RiverGaucho

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    For the Argentine clubs I think Estudiantes will just try and get a draw in the altitude against Independiente del Valle. They're going to play a much more defensive formation than they did in their clasico victory over Gimnasia on Sunday with 2 lines of four, and left back Alvaro Pereira moving into the midfield to add even more cover. If they get a 1-1 draw or even 2-2, i think they'll have no problem beating Independiente back in La Plata. Estudiantes is a very good team and dangerous

    It would be great to see Huracan back in the Libertadores proper. I have to admit I know nothing about the level of Peruvian football these days, but I assume its very low considering their clubs make no impact in either the sudamericana or the libertadores for a long time now. Allianza is a big name, but I just think Huracan can do it.

    Hopefully Corinthians gets past Once Caldas, it would be great to see a Sao Paulo derby in the group stages, and it would also be great to see CA$LA get kicked out of the competition early
     
  19. argentine soccer fan

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    Whatever. Preseason may just be preseason, but cinco pepas son cinco pepas. If it doesn't hurt, you're not a real fan.
     
  20. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
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    As much as I dislike Corinthians, I would prefer that my team simply cross to the other side of town than to fly to Colombia. It'd be easier for the players & staff, and it'd certainly cost a lot less money. And based on Corinthians' 4th-place finish in the Campeonato Brasileiro and on Tite's return, I would bet Corinthians is preparing rather meticulously. I imagine Once Caldas will be very tough, but I see Corinthians advancing.

    Interestingly, both teams failed the last (and only) time either played the Libertadores group stage playoff. Once Caldas lost to Internacional on a 3-2 aggregate in 2012, and Corinthians lost to Tolima with a 2-0 combined score in 2011.

    If Corinthians advances, I think São Lourenço will have a lot to worry about. São Paulo now has Breno back, signed the player who denied your team the league title (Centurión), and we have also now announced Dória, who was with Olympique de Marseille (ironically, Dória got no playing time, despite having been signed at the request of your countryman Marcelo Bielsa). If the defense gels, we'll improve a sector which hurt us at key moments in 2014.
     
  21. Century's Best

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    Who is he?
     
  22. RiverGaucho

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    Jan 23, 2010
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    You're questioning me being a real fan? Ok pal... Of course it hurts, but if someone told me 3 months ago "you can beat boca in a semifinal of the sudamericana including a penalty save after 15 seconds in the match but you have to lose 5-0 in january in Mendoza" i would have signed that agreement in blood.

    Also, if you read my post during the match saturday night I said while the score was 2-0 that if we had to lose 5-0 in order for Gallardo to pull out Maidana and Funes Mori from the starting 11 against CASLA i would take it. I still mean it. If River wins the Recopa, our 4th trophy in the last 8 months, no one will care ab the Mendoza game but you boca fans you haven't won anything in 3 years
     
  23. argentine soccer fan

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    Can't believe Huracan, wow! How bad can Alianza Lima be this season.
     
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  24. Sandinista

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    It's not THAT big a surprise. The 4-0 result yes, the win, not so much...
     
  25. RiverGaucho

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    Grande Globo!

    But seriously... Any Peruvian posters have any insight on Allianza? I know the game was played behind closed doors, but their level was embarrassing. Looked like a team from the B Metro (Third tier) in Argentina, perhaps worse.

    For a bit of insight for non argentine posters, Huracan was playing in the B just 2 months ago and only made the Libertadores by winning the Copa Argentina- a competition none of the big clubs took seriously. They also won their last 3 rounds via penalties, so they weren't even superior in that competition. They hadn't even been in the Libertadores since 1974 and they walked into Lima and completely bitch slapped them
     

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