COPA LIBERTADORES 2009-grp stage (r)

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  1. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    He actually did that? I thought he just stood over him to shout insults.

    Well, I guess the Rio da Prata fans will give him a warm reception in Argentina, and I'm also certain that CARP's players will make an utmost effort to return the pleasantries.
     
  2. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    you mean fox sports, because i will never say SAN CAYETANO , SAN PABLO

    but i would say SAO CAETANO DE BRASIL, SPORT DE RECIFE


    in this case why do you say RIO DA PRATA, what about SPORT RECIFE or SPORT BOYS from peru?

    meninos esporte?
     
  3. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    First of all, I'm doing everybody a favor by using "Rio da Prata."

    The name "River Plate" is a mistranslated phrase for the Rio de La Plata which serves as a waterway between Argentina and Uruguay. It was so named because of its shiny waters, and the people of that time thought it was silvery.

    But a proper translation for Rio de La Plata, in English, would have been "Silver River."

    Even "Plate River," which sounds ridiculous, is more grammatically correct than "River Plate." At least "Plate River" is closer to "Silver River" than "River Plate."

    So by saying "Rio da Prata" I stay faithful to the body of water's name in Spanish, to its meaning. Sure beats "Rio Plato."
     
  4. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    lmao. :D

    Thank you kindly, sir. :)
     
  5. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    and I thought no one did favors for free anymore..... :D
     
  6. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think you're doing a huge favor to the fans of River Plate by changing their name. The way things are going for them, I am sure they want to go incognito.
    :D
     
  7. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He won't be there, though. He got a red card for kicking Ahumada while he was on the ground, meaning that he'll miss the next game. Coincidently, Nacional's next match will be vs. River in the Monumental.
     
  8. Arthur V

    Arthur V Member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Brasilia, BRASIL
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I hate when people say "San Pablo"


    It's São Paulo, godammit!:mad:
     
  9. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Here is my weekly review:

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/blog.php?b=4392

    Player of the Week: Mauro Boselli
    Honorable Mention: Rodrigo Teixeira, Juan Roman Riquelme

    Goat of the Week: Mariano Barbosa
    Dishonorable Mention: Gaston Aguirre, Enrique Osses

    Team of the Week: Estudiantes de la Plata
    Honorable Mention: Libertad, Boyaca Chico

    Worst Team of the Week: Deportivo Quito
    Dishonorable Mention: Lanus, Universidad de Chile
     
  10. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    A los brasileros en todo caso les conviene la traduccion del sao a san en castellano :D

    no es por nada pero e peru la palabra Sao se asocia a las personas que pertenecen a la dimension desconocida, a los gatorades, o a los que les gusta el mismo sexo
     
  11. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA


    I was just gonna say that I always see it on Fox Espanol. I bet the Paulistas hate that, by the way is Dogaberto injured or did he play? I like that name time to bring in the Dog in a good way;)
     
  12. Arthur V

    Arthur V Member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Brasilia, BRASIL
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Dagoberto is fine.

    He's not playing because Borges and Washington are doing a great job.
     
  13. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Something similar happened to me once. I'm not a pro and ended up playing goalie with the current group I play now only by default, but among the group I play I'm probably the best keeper (which is not saying much). Let me try to explain it.

    When a low fast shot goes within 6 feet of you, you do not jump and dive (like you'd do with a shot that goes further than that), but drop as fast as you can to the ground. Chances are that you're not going to meet the ball with your hand, but with some part of your forearm, and if the ball and your arm get to the same place at the same time (not your arm first which is the ideal), you will be hitting the ball in something like a billiard trick shot, from top to bottom, causing that odd spin move. Mariano was unlucky and the ball ended up going into the net by itself. If I remember correctly when it happened to me, a striker got the ball at head level and off course scored easily.

    All and all, sometimes I prefer to tackle this kind of shot with my feet, because of the unexpected ball movement, with your foot you aim to clear the ball as far as possible.
     
  14. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Itchycoo Park
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Río_de_la_Plata
    "The English name "River Plate" is not, in fact, a mistranslation, as "plate" was used extensively as a noun for "silver" or "gold" from the 12th century onwards, especially in Early Modern English and the estuary has been known as the River Plate or Plate River in English since at least the time of Francis Drake. A modern translation of the Spanish Río de la Plata is "Silver River", referring not to color but to the riches of the fabled Sierra de la Plata thought to lie upstream."

    I blame the Spanish for calling it a "rio", when it is not a river.
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The original name given by the Spanish navigator Juan Dias de Solis was 'Mar Dulce'. (Sweet Sea).
     
  16. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    so that's why we have DULCE DE LECHE?





    ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
     
  17. Guayaquileño

    Guayaquileño Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    New York City
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    dude it's nothing to get aggravated over... it's just the Spanish way of saying Sao Paulo... and besides its almost the same in sound. That's all.
     
  18. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I follow German soccer, for example, and if you go on www.kicker.de (very respectable news site), they have the names of every club in German.
    -AC Florenz: Fiorentina.
    -AC Mailand: AC Milan.
    -Roten Stern Beograd: Red Star Belgrade, which is a very interesting case. In Spanish, we call it "Estrella Roja (Belgrado)", and if we were to call it in its Serbian name, we would have to say Crvena Zvezda.

    My 2 Chilean pesos: just thought I'd share. :p
     
  19. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I wonder if the German fans of Bayern München get as agravated as the Sao Paulo fans do, when they see their club called Bayern Munich on TV.
     
  20. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Absolutely not, or even when they see "FC Bayern" listed as their team name.
     
  21. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Couple of German expats I knew didn't like Bayern Munich. They'd correct me, "nay, it's MUNCHEN!!!"

    I don't get aggravated. I just find it annoying. But I guess it'd be worse if you Argies had to hear "... e falta marcada no meio de campo contra o volante do Rio da Prata!" if Fox Sports was staffed by Brazilians. :D
     
  22. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Bueno, la RAI (tv italiana) también cambia los nombres de los clubes extranjeros (me parece una estupidez):

    Bayern di Monaco (Bayern München)
    Stoccarda (Stuttgart)
    Barcellona (pronunciado "Barchelona")
    Dinamo di Mosca (Dinamo Moskva)
    Hertha di Berlino (Hertha Berlin)
    Stella Rossa (Crvena Zvezda)
     
  23. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Itchycoo Park
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Maybe River should change its name to River Sweet.
     
  24. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'll never understand why they say "San Pablo", but they didn't bother with São Caetano, because they would've ended up saying "San Cayetano".
     
  25. Arthur V

    Arthur V Member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Brasilia, BRASIL
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'm pretty sure the germans don't like when we change the names of their teams.

    I don't like, because it's wrong to say "San Pablo". The name is in portuguese.

    We don't call River Plate "Rio Prateado" over here. We don't call San Martín "São Martin" and we don't call Estudiantes "Estudantes".

    Imagine people in the USA saying "Mouth Jrs"... jajajajaja that would be terrible.
     

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