Copa Bridgestone Sudamericana 2011 [R]

ah yes, they've lost 4 games all year...

i meant they're undefeated both in the Sudamericana and the Clausura..

how many games is that, like 30 or more????

 

son 31 partidos, incluyendo el de ayer.


1-0 / 17-07 / San Felipe / Copa Chile
1-0 / 23-07 / Unión Española / Copa Chile
2-2 / 27-07 / Deportes Concepción / Pre Sudamericana
3-0 / 30-07 / La Serena / Clausura
2-0 / 03-08 / Deportes Concepción / Pre Sudamericana
1-0 / 10-08 / Fénix / Sudamericana
3-1 / 14-08 / Cobreloa / Clausura
0-0 / 18-08 / Fénix / Sudamericana
1-0 / 21-08 / Unión Española / Clausura
2-0 / 25-08 / Santiago Morning / Clausura
2-0 / 28-08 / Universidad de Concepción / Clausura
4-1 / 03-09 / Ñublense / Clausura
3-0 / 10-09 / San Felipe / Clausura
1-0 / 13-09 / Nacional / Sudamericana
3-1 / 17-09 / Cobresal / Clausura
2-0 / 21-09 / Nacional / Sudamericana
3-0 / 25-09 / O’Higgins / Clausura
1-1 / 28-09 / Wanderers / Clausura
2-2 / 01-10 / Iquique / Clausura
3-2 / 12-10 / La Calera / Clausura
4-0 / 19-10 / Flamengo / Sudamericana
1-1 / 22-10 / Palestino / Clausura
1-0 / 26-10 / Flamengo / Sudamericana
2-2 / 30-10 / Colo Colo / Clausura
2-1 / 03-11 / Arsenal / Sudamericana
5-3 / 06-11 / Huachipato / Clausura
3-0 / 17-11 / Arsenal / Sudamericana
0-0 / 20-11 / Universidad Católica / Clausura
1-1 / 23-11 / Vasco / Sudamericana
1-1 / 27-11 / Audax Italiano / Clausura

 

Debe ser la primera vez que dos equipos del pacifico definen un titulo continental a nivel de clubes en la conmebol. No creo que esto se haya dado antes. Sin duda la LDU es favorita por sus recientes titulos y finales, pero si la U arranca un buen resultado desde Quito( y/0 si pierde por un gol) tiene grandes posibilidades de levantar la copa en Santiago.

 

Tecnicamente hablando, México también es una nación del Pacífico, por lo que cuando Pachuca le ganó a Colo-Colo el 2006, fué la primera vez que enfrentó a 2 rivales del Pacífico. En todo caso si solo concierne a equipos de Conmebol, esta sería la primera vez que ocurre.

 

Sampaoli already playede against liga in 2008 with Emelec in Quito and lost 2-0. He knows the turf and the problems playing there. I dont think U de Chile can bring much game. if the play a 4-3-3 they will be eating up be Ligas speed and the pitch

 

Chileans don't suffer too much with altitude. U de Chile is a fast team too so that's probably not a concern.

Liga on its own is a good team, regardless of the altitude. They have experienced players that know how to play (and win) international finals. That should be U de Chile's and Sampaoli's main concern.

 

Actually, because of the speed with which U plays, altitude affects a lot faster

 

The fact that some players played in the past at high altitude, doesn`t imply that in the future their levels of hemoglobine, will remain high. Once these players, leave hight, their levels will slowly level up, to those of the players who play at sea level. The reason why their levels rise in the first place, is the lower amount of Oxygen in the atmosphere at height, which stimulates the production and hemoglobine increase by the body, in order to compensate this lack.

In order to keep their levels high they must remain at height for long periods of time, or regularly pass part of their time at height.


Anyhow, I believe that U. de Chile`s trainer must sure know how to dosificate their rythm in order to keep up their usual level of game and in the process extenuate Liga`s players instead. The lack of Oxygen in the atmosphere doesn`t make tireless players (they get tired as well), it only enhances their use of the Oxygen that surrounds them.

 

hahaha thanks wikipedia.


Doesnt matter the altitude, opponent or instance of the cup, Sampaoli and the team will go out the same we have during the whole tournament. Dep. Quito is an excelent team, but if Sampaoli didn't change his tactic to play more intimidating teams, then I don't why he would do it for an ecuadorian team.

 

I was thinking the same thing: it could be a double-edge sword. BUT the fact that Sampaoli already worked in Ecuador might work as an advantage, too.

 

Didn't we beat Cobreloa and Calama in their own stadiums this season? I think La U should be capable of holding their own. I expect a tight match. I'm more concerned by the experience of our opponents. I can see some of our men going in a bit hard on tackles due to nerves. They have to rise to the occasion and remain cool-headed.

 

I'm pretty sure the games against Cobreloa and Cobresal were played in Santiago this season. Either way, trips to Calama and El Salvador are the norm and these are located at 2260 m (7400 ft) and 2300 m (7545 ft) respectively, not too far from the 2,850 m (9,350 ft) of Quito.

When I said that historically altitude never affected our players I not only meant that in a physical sense but also in a psychological sense. When the body isn't responding up to par I think our players can cope with the situation better than, say, a typical Brazilian or Argentine.

Like you mention, Liga's stacked with experienced players capable of winning finals... that should be the concern. I expect both legs to be very tactical games.

 

I'd be disappointed if we can't get a draw with all the loses in LDU.

 

Amen.

 

I'm sick of the Argentine Fed's constant changing of international qualifying. So now because of their idiotic rules, Banfield are currently qualified for next year's edition of this tournament. They qualified by winning 10 games and losing 17! WTF! Bullshit rules.

And Arsenal steals Racing's Lib spot just because Arsenal were in this tourney, even tho they sucked in it. This is the 2nd year in a row Racing gets the rug pulled from under them. But at least last year, Independent had to win this tournament in order to oust them. Arsenal gets to oust them this time by being mediocre. WTF!!!

What bullshit rules will they come up with next? Best looking unis get Lib spots? Or maybe they'll let Tano Pasman pick out of a hat.

 

Hey is Quito giving priority to this Cup or to the league? I think winning the league's 3rd place would be easier than beating U-Chile. They gotta choose the easier route.

 

I know for sure La U will focus on the final, we already have a Libertadores spot secured.

 

Let's roll.