The last time Mexico faced this conundrum was in 2015 and they took an A Team to the Gold Cup, and a B team to the Copa America; In 2011, they again sent an A team to the Gold Cup and a B team to the Copa America. They were able to send a B team to last year's Gold Cup because they had a A team FIFA tournament the same summer (Confederations Cup). At times CONCACAF has restricted the ability of members to send full teams to other confederation's tournaments (i.e. Copa America).
Hey can they restrict member choice for the tournaments isn't it up to the coach who plays for what team.
Per FIFA regulations, all teams wishing to participate in an international match must submit a request to the the confederation for which they are a member for authorization to play. The regulations governing the Gold Cup specifically state that each side shall select from the best players eligible. There is also a Gold Cup rule which explicitly states that a team can't be referred to as a B team or can face financial and other ramifications. Last Summer, Mexico was able to do so because the Confederations Cup was an International FIFA tournament and thus had precedence. However, CONCACAF specifically told Mexico to field an U-23 team at the Copa America back in 2011. (My assumption, although I haven't been able to document it yet), is that CONCACAF used the need for confederation authorization to ensure that A teams are sent to the Gold Cup and not another tournament. http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/name/203/blog/post/2089952/headline
Here is another link stating that CONCACAF did place that restriction: http://www.banderasnews.com/1004/nr-concacaf01.htm Interestingly, Japan pulled out because of J-league conflicts and the tsunami (after some initial talk of using only European players, but then that fell through as well), so Costa Rica was invited but had the same stipulations as Mexico of U-23 team with 5 over age players.
Following up, the Mexicans played similar strength squads in 2007. The Gold Cup squad may have been slightly stronger but they were basically the same team. that said nearly all of the team played in Mexico, where clubs are likely more amenable to releasing players. The last Gold Cup-Copa America overlap prior to that was in 1993.
Frankly, the big question will be if the European teams will release our U23s, since they are not required to. I wonder if that is what plagued Japan back in 2011 when they wanted to play an all European team but ended up pulling out. The Euro teams are known for playing hardball. That said, I would like to see an U-23 team play the Copa America too.
They don't have to but it's in their best interest for 2 reasons. Copa is before the Gold Cup. They may not have to let them go to Copa but if that's the case they will be called to GC and that will interfere with their preseason training. The other is these are young guys who will likely be sold at some point. Good performances at the Copa will increase their value far greater than anything they could do at the GC.
Ii hope your are right, but I am not sure I share your optimism. Euro clubs have frequently been tough when it comes to non-official tournaments.
I know but our fed needs to grow a pair. They need to make it clear that they'll call up that player every chance they get, no breaks even with no meaningful games. They'll call them in and make them fly even if they don't play or their injured just because the club cannot deny them. If they want to have a good working relationship that can change otherwise we can make it as hard on them as they want to make it on us.
I was thinking basically whichever squad has Pulisic is the A-team. It's been a long time (2016 Copa?) since we've looked consistently dangerous going forward without him on the field. Whichever team doesn't have him will probably struggle to score. Unless some other player breakouts in the next year...
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I want to give the USSF a massive round of applause for its attempts to alienate as many fans as possible and make us not give a fook about the program.
Yeah, especially with Mexico not going either, I'm guessing this isn't a USSF thing. I wonder if CONCACAF put their foot down and told teams they couldn't go to another confederation's tournament and de-emphasize their own.
Nations League. Asia doesn't have one (yet). Since it's a tournament created to replace friendlies, and will be considered in fact a bunch of glorified intra-regional friendlies, I expect us to do very well. We're the world champs of friendlies.
There has been a rumor that the Gold Cup was going to be played earlier in the summer. It's why I think Sunil had been coy about US participation in Copa America.