CONCACAF Champions League Coefficient

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions League' started by ArsenalMetro, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Just by the sheer number of pro teams in each country, I don't think it's justifiable to give CAN and USA the same number of total teams participating. This is less to knock CAN's 3 total (since the coefficient is so good) and more to say that I don't think USA should be dropped away from 4. I think balancing size and coefficient together would look something more like

    USA 2+2
    CRC 2+1
    CAN 1+2
    and to balance, some other UNCAF nation gets -1 CL slot from the suggested list. Then, if CAN's coefficient drops as expected, they go to 1+1 and an UNCAF nation gets the spot back. (Or, if CPL keeps expanding to the point of adding a lower pro level, CAN can keep their 1+2.)
     
  2. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    There's Wrexham as well.

    I don't recall Newport ever playing in the Welsh leagues - not even during the exile years when the Welsh FA forced them to play in Gloucestershire (England). Is there a particular season I've forgotten? Looking in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newport_County_A.F.C._seasons it seems to be over 100 years consecutively in the English leagues (other than during the wars).

    I'd think many from Newport would claim that Monmouthshire has moved back and forth between England and Wales, rather than the team ever not playing in English leagues! Certainly as a kid, I was quite shocked to discover that Monmouthshire was being included in the 1974 definition of Wales - it hardly seemed particularly Welsh east of the Usk!
     
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  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    ...I'm just now realizing that I misread the suggested list in that it ALSO dropped MEX to 3+0 instead of 4+0, due to including the defending champion... That throws off the thoughts behind my above post a little bit. Not sure what I would do to nudge things around, then, with the def. champ mucking things up. I guess just swap the suggested 2+1 from CAN with the 1+2 from CRC and don't change the USA 2+1. (Still kinda expecting CAN to go to 1+1 eventually unless their leagues grow a lot...)
     
  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew about Wrexham. The three I knew about before this topic were Swansea, Cardiff, and Wrexham. When I said Newport moved back and forth, I meant the country they played in, not the league they played in. I understand why people would think I meant switching leagues.
     
  5. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    Ah. Well only once for a few seasons. More interestingly, they did so until they could get a high court ruling forcing the Welsh FA to let them play in Newport - which presumably set the precedent that let's all the other teams continue and no longer be harassed by the Welsh FA.

    I wonder if that's an option for Ottawa Fury. I have no idea what the legal basis for that decision is.
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Concacaf Champions League, Round of 16, First Leg

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Saprissa over Montreal, Arabe Unido, and Toronto
    - Santos over Arabe Unido and Toronto
    - Portland over Leon
    - Monterrey over Tijuana and Cruz Azul, tied with Leon
    - Salt Lake over Motagua
    - Kansas City over Cruz Azul, Alajuelense, Salt Lake, Motagua, and LA Galaxy
    - Colorado over San Francisco
    - Alianza over San Francisco, Real Espana, and Municipal
    - Atlanta over Municipal
    - Houston over *deep breath* Honduras Progreso, Comunicaciones, Chorrillo, Colorado, Alianza, San Francisco, Real Espana, Atlanta, and Municipal
    - Santa Tecla over Suchitepequez
    - Independiente over Santa Tecla, Suchitepequez, Real Esteli, and Marathon, tied with Universitario
    - FAS over Antigua (GUA)

    Code:
    As of February 21, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient             
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125    1.125   69.625
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    0.000   67.000
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    2.250   42.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    4.625   28.250
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                   
                   
    Club Coefficient
             
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   0.3750   100.7083
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083   0.3750    79.7083
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   0.3750    65.7083
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750   3.7500    51.7501
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   0.3750    47.7083
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.0000    46.3333
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    45.2501
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.0000    44.3333
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083   3.3750    44.2083
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   7.5417    43.9167
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   0.0000    43.3333
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    39.7083
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   0.3750    35.7083
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   0.7500    35.2501
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   0.7500    33.2501
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   0.7500    30.7501
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083   1.8750    30.7083
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    30.7083
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   0.3750    29.7083
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750   3.7500    29.2501
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    29.2083
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    28.2501
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    26.7501
    Toluca       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    23.2083
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    23.2083
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.0000    22.3333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.0417    20.9167
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   1.5417    18.9167
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.7500    17.2501
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   1.5417    16.9167
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   0.7500    15.7501
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   1.5417    15.4167
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    14.2501
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    14.2501
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   4.5417    12.4167
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   4.5417    12.4167
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Marathon     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   1.5417     9.4167
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guastatoya   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    Atl. Pantoja 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dang Toronto got Canada 0 points this year.
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    1.5 with the second-leg draw.
     
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  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Concacaf Champions League, Round of 16

    Federation Movement
    - Panama over Honduras

    Club Movement
    - New York over Herediano
    - Vancouver over Olimpia
    - D.C. United over Vancouver and Olimpia
    - Santos Laguna over Guadalajara, D.C. United, Vancouver, Olimpia, Saprissa, and Montreal
    - Toronto over Saprissa, Montreal, and Arabe Unido
    - Monterrey over Dallas, Seattle, and Portland, tied with UNAM
    - Kansas City over Seattle, Portland, Leon, and Tijuana
    - Salt Lake over Alajuelense
    - Houston over Santos d.G., Tauro, and Plaza Amador
    - Chorrillo over Honduras Progreso and Comunicaciones
    - Colorado over Chorrillo, Honduras Progreso, and Comunicaciones
    - San Francisco over Alianza
    - Atlanta over Plaza Amador, Colorado, Chorrillo, Honduras Progreso, Comunicaciones, San Francisco, Alianza, and Real Espana
    - Independiente over San Francisco, Alianza, Real Espana, Municipal, and Perez Zeledon

    Removed from Active Rankings
    - Toluca (MEX)
    - Marathon (HON)
    - Guastatoya (GUA)
    - Atletico Pantoja (CFU/DOM)

    Code:
    As of February 28, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient            
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125    4.875   73.375
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500   68.500
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    7.250   47.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    5.500   29.125
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   1.6250   101.9583
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083   6.6250    85.9583
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   1.6250    66.9583
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  10.4167    58.4168
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083   9.6250    50.4583
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   1.6250    48.9583
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    46.9168
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000    46.8333
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000    45.3333
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    44.8333
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   7.8333    44.2083
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   1.6250    40.9583
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083   8.1250    36.9583
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   1.6250    36.9583
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   2.4167    36.9168
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  10.4167    35.9168
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   2.4167    34.9168
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   2.4167    32.4168
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   1.6250    31.9583
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   1.6250    30.9583
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   1.6250    30.4583
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    29.9168
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    26.7501
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  10.4167    23.9168
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   0.3750    23.2083
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    22.8333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.3333    21.2083
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   7.4167    20.9168
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   1.8333    19.2083
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   2.4167    17.4168
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   1.8333    17.2083
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   8.3333    16.2083
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    15.9168
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   1.8333    15.7083
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   4.8333    12.7083
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   1.8333     9.7083
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  10. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Man, those confederation coefficients are gonna move a ton when the '14-'15 values get cycled out...

    Also interesting to see these:
     
  11. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a fan of Manchester United, who led the UEFA coefficients after 2010-2011. In 2013, Sir Alex Ferguson retired, and the Red Bulls won their first Supporters Shield. In the summer of 2013 I wouldn't have expected the Red Bulls to be ahead of Manchester United in coefficients within a few years, albeit in an easier confederation.
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Champions League Quarterfinals, First Leg
    * or - "hey MLS, you're supposed to try to win some of these*

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Leon over Portland
    - Chorrillo over Colorado
    - Independiente over Chorrillo, Colorado, Honduras Progreso, and Comunicaciones; tied with Plaza Amador

    Code:
    As of March 7, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient            
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125    7.125   75.623
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500   68.500
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    7.250   47.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    6.250   29.875
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   2.3750   102.7083
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083  10.3750    89.7083
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   2.3750    67.7083
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  10.4167    58.4168
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083  13.3750    54.2083
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   2.3750    49.7083
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    46.9168
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000    46.8333
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000    45.3333
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    44.8333
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   8.0833    44.4583
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   2.3750    41.7083
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083  11.8750    40.7083
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   2.3750    37.7083
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   2.4167    36.9168
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  10.4167    35.9168
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   2.4167    34.9168
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   2.3750    32.7083
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   2.4167    32.4168
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   2.3750    31.7083
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   2.3750    31.2083
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    29.9168
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   0.7500    26.7501
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   2.3750    25.2083
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  10.4167    23.9168
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    22.8333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.5833    21.4583
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   7.4167    20.9168
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417  11.5833    19.4583
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   2.0833    19.4583
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   2.0833    17.4583
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   2.4167    17.4168
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833    15.9583
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   2.4167    15.9168
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   5.0833    12.9583
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833     9.9583
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
    ceezmad and DGreat repped this.
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Champions League Quarterfinals

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Santos over New York and Herediano
    - Monterrey over Queretaro
    - Kansas City over UNAM and Dallas
    - LA Galaxy over Alajuelense and Motagua (I missed them in the last update)
    - Atlanta over Santos d.G. and Tauro, tied with Houston
    - Colorado over Chorrillo

    Code:
    As of March 15, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient            
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125   10.125   78.625
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500   68.500
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    9.250   49.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    6.250   29.875
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   3.3750   103.7083
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083  16.3750    95.7083
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   3.3750    69.7083
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083  19.3750    60.2083
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  11.0833    59.0834
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   3.3750    50.7083
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    47.5834
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000    46.8333
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000    45.3333
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    44.8333
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   8.0833    44.4583
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083  14.8750    43.7083
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   3.3750    42.7083
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  16.0833    41.5834
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   3.3750    38.7083
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   3.0833    37.5834
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   3.0833    35.5834
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   3.3750    33.7083
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   3.0833    33.0834
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   3.3750    32.7083
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   3.3750    32.2083
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    30.5834
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    29.0834
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   3.3750    26.2083
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    22.8333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.5833    21.4583
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417  11.5833    19.4583
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   2.0833    19.4583
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   3.0833    18.0834
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   2.0833    17.4583
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    16.5834
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833    15.9583
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   5.0833    12.9583
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833     9.9583
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A website has the UEFA coefficients going into the future when older seasons drop out. Just in the last three seasons including this one, the Red Bulls are third. In the two oldest seasons, the Red Bulls will drop out much fewer points than Pachuca, Santos, and Herediano. I saw that on July 25, I didn't think the Red Bulls would qualify for the CCL. Their game after that was the one I went to on July 28, and they went down 3-0 to Columbus and lost 3-2. They went on to break the regular season points record.
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Champions League Semifinals

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Monterrey over Guadalajara, D.C. United, Vancouver, Olimpia, Toronto, Saprissa, Montreal, and Arabe Unido
    - Tijuana over Portland
    - Cruz Azul over Portland

    Code:
    As of April 11, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient            
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125   14.125   82.625
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500   68.500
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    9.250   49.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    6.250   29.875
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   4.7083   105.0416
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083  22.7083   102.0416
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   4.7083    70.0416
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083  23.7083    64.5416
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  11.0833    59.0834
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083  24.2083    53.0416
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   4.7083    52.0416
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    47.5834
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000    46.8333
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000    45.3333
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    44.8333
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   8.0833    44.4583
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   4.7083    44.0416
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  16.0833    41.5834
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   4.7083    40.0416
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   3.0833    37.5834
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   3.0833    35.5834
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   4.7083    35.0416
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   4.7083    34.0416
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   4.7083    33.5416
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   3.0833    33.0834
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    30.5834
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    29.0834
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   4.7083    27.5416
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    22.8333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.5833    21.4583
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417  11.5833    19.4583
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   2.0833    19.4583
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   3.0833    18.0834
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   2.0833    17.4583
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    16.5834
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833    15.9583
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   5.0833    12.9583
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833     9.9583
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
  16. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2019 Champions League

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Monterrey over New York and Herediano
    - Queretaro over Arabe Unido
    - Leon over Dallas and Seattle

    Code:
    As of May 2, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient            
    
    Nation        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  Overall
    Mexico         14.375   22.000   18.000   14.125   16.125   84.625
    Canada         22.000    4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500   68.500
    United States   9.875   12.875   10.625    7.125    9.250   49.750
    Costa Rica     15.667    6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125   37.417
    Panama          2.250    6.000   10.750    4.625    6.250   29.875
    Honduras        8.500    6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167   29.042
    Guatemala       6.000    4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000   15.000
    El Salvador     0.750    3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667   12.500
    Nicaragua       3.000    0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    9.250
    CFU             2.000    3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    7.250
    Belize          0.000    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19    Overall
    America     34.7917  38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   5.3750   105.7083
    UANL         4.7917  29.3333  31.0000  14.2083  24.8750   104.2083
    Pachuca     18.7917   7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   5.3750    70.7083
    Santos       4.7917  25.3333   6.0000   4.7083  24.3750    65.2083
    Monterrey    4.7917   7.3333  12.0000   4.7083  31.3750    60.2083
    New York     9.2917   4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  11.0833    59.0834
    Herediano   26.2222   8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750    57.4723
    Guadalajara  4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   5.3750    52.7083
    D.C. United 20.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    47.5834
    Vancouver    7.3333   6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000    46.8333
    Olimpia     15.3333   8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556    46.6806
    Toronto      7.3333   1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000    45.3333
    Saprissa    14.7222   8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750    44.9723
    Montreal    29.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    44.8333
    Queretaro    4.7917  23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750    44.7083
    Arabe Unido  0.7500   8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   8.0833    44.4583
    Kansas City 10.7917   4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  16.0833    41.5834
    UNAM         4.7917   7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   5.3750    40.7083
    Leon        12.2917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750    35.7083
    Dallas       3.2917   4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   3.0833    37.5834
    Seattle      3.2917  15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   3.0833    35.5834
    Tijuana      4.7917   7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   5.3750    34.7083
    Cruz Azul   10.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750    34.2083
    Portland    12.2917   4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   3.0833    33.0834
    Salt Lake    3.2917  18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    30.5834
    LA Galaxy    3.2917  16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    29.0834
    Alajuelense 21.7222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    28.9723
    Mexico       4.7917   7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750    28.2083
    Motagua      2.8333   9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556    27.6806
    Houston      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Atlanta      3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833    24.5834
    Santos d.G.  5.2223   2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750    22.9723
    Canada       7.3333   1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000    22.8333
    Tauro        0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.5833    21.4583
    Independiente0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417  11.5833    19.4583
    Plaza Amador 0.7500   2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   2.0833    19.4583
    Colorado     3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   3.0833    18.0834
    Chorrillo    5.2500   2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   2.0833    17.4583
    H. Progreso  2.8333   2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556    17.1806
    Comun. (GUA) 9.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    17.0000
    USA          3.2917   4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833    16.5834
    S. Francisco 0.7500   8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833    15.9583
    Alianza      0.2500   1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556    15.6666
    Real Espana  7.3333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556    14.6806
    Municipal    6.5000   6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000    14.0000
    Perez Zeledon5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750    12.9723
    Universitario0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   5.0833    12.9583
    Costa Rica   5.2222   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750    12.4723
    Santa Tecla  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556    11.1666
    Suchitepequez2.0000   1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000    11.0000
    Real Esteli  4.0000   0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333    10.0833
    Panama       0.7500   2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833     9.9583
    Honduras     2.8333   2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556     9.6806
    W. Ferretti  1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333     8.5833
    Central      0.6667   5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    Waterhouse   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     8.4166
    FAS          1.7500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556     8.1666
    Antigua (GUA)2.0000   1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Aguila       0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    Is. Metapan  0.2500   4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     7.1666
    W Connection 0.6667   4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333     6.9166
    Verdes       0.0000   6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       0.2500   1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556     5.6666
    Portmore Utd 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333     5.4166
    Guatemala    2.0000   1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000     5.0000
    El Salvador  0.2500   1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556     4.1666
    Montego Bay  0.6667   2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     3.9166
    Arnett Gard. 0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Franciscain  0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333     3.4166
    Nicaragua    1.0000   0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333     3.0833
    CFU          0.6667   1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333     2.4166
    Belize       0.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
    See you in July.
     
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  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #667 ArsenalMetro, May 2, 2019
    Last edited: May 2, 2019
    Just kidding, see you now.

    I removed all clubs from the active rankings whose coefficient was equal to that of non-participants from their country, regardless of whether they've qualified for the 2019 Concacaf League or the 2020 CCL. I'll add them back later, if necessary.

    Before 2019 Concacaf League, with 2014-15 scores cleared:

    Federation Movement
    - Panama over Costa Rica
    - El Salvador over Guatemala

    Club Movement (a lot):
    - UANL over America (new #1)
    - Santos over Pachuca
    - Monterrey over Pachuca
    - Guadalajara over Herediano
    - Arabe Unido over Herediano, D.C. United, Vancouver, Olimpia, Toronto, Saprissa, Montreal, and Queretaro
    - Queretaro over Herediano, D.C. United, Vancouver, Olimpia, Toronto, Saprissa, and Montreal
    - Vancouver over Herediano and D.C. United
    - Toronto over Herediano, D.C. United, and Olimpia
    - UNAM over Herediano, D.C. United, Olimpia, Saprissa, Montreal, and Kansas City
    - Dallas over Herediano, D.C. United, Olimpia, Saprissa, Montreal, Kansas City, and Leon
    - Seattle over Herediano, D.C. United, Olimpia, Saprissa, Montreal, Kansas City, and Leon
    - Olimpia over Herediano and D.C. United
    - Kansas City over D.C. United, Saprissa, and Montreal
    - Saprissa over D.C. United
    - Tijuana over D.C. United, Montreal, and Leon
    - Salt Lake over Montreal, Leon, Cruz Azul, and Portland, tied with D.C. United
    - LA Galaxy over Montreal, Leon, Cruz Azul, and Portland
    - Motagua over Montreal, Leon, Cruz Azul, Portland, and Alajuelense
    - Leon (MEX) removed from active rankings
    - Cruz Azul (MEX) removed from active rankings

    - Atlanta over Montreal, Portland, and Alajuelense, tied with Houston
    - Houston over Montreal, Portland, and Alajuelense
    - Portland over Montreal
    - Tauro over Montreal, Alajuelense, and Santos d.G.
    - Plaza Amador over Montreal, Alajuelense, and Santos d.G., tied with Independiente
    - Independiente over Montreal, Alajuelense, and Santos d.G.
    - Santos d.G. over Montreal and Alajuelense
    - Montreal (CAN) removed from active rankings
    - Alianza over Alajuelense, Colorado, Chorrillo, H. Progreso, Comunicaciones, and San Francisco
    - San Francisco over Alajuelense, Colorado, Chorrillo, H. Progreso, and Comunicaciones
    - Colorado over Alajuelense
    - H. Progreso over Alajuelense and Chorrillo
    - Universitario over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, Municipal, and Perez Zeledon, tied with Chorrillo
    - Chorrillo over Alajuelense
    - Santa Tecla over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, Municipal, and Perez Zeledon
    - Suchitepequez over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, Municipal, and Perez Zeledon
    - Perez Zeledon over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, and Municipal
    - Central over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, Municipal, Real Esteli, and Walter Ferretti
    - Walter Ferretti over Alajuelense, Comunicaciones, Real Espana, Municipal, and Real Esteli
    - Comunicaciones over Alajuelense, tied with Municipal
    - Municipal over Alajuelense and Real Espana
    - Real Espana over Alajuelense
    - Alajuelense (CRC) removed from active rankings
    - Isidro Metapan over Real Esteli, Waterhouse, FAS, and Antigua (GUA), tied with Aguila
    - Aguila over Real Esteli, Waterhouse, FAS, and Antigua (GUA)
    - FAS over Real Esteli and Waterhouse
    - W Connection over Real Esteli, Waterhouse, and Antigua (GUA)
    - Antigua (GUA) over Waterhouse, tied with Verdes
    - Verdes over Waterhouse
    - Dragon over Waterhouse
    - Portmore United over Waterhouse
    - Montego Bay over Waterhouse
    - Arnett Gardens over Waterhouse
    - Club Franciscain over Waterhouse
    - Waterhouse (CFU/JAM) removed from active rankings

    Code:
    As of May 2, 2019
    
    Federation Coefficient          
    
    Nation        2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  2019-20  Overall
    Mexico         22.000   18.000   14.125   16.125    0.000   70.250
    Canada          4.500   19.500   21.000    1.500    0.000   46.500
    United States  12.875   10.625    7.125    9.250    0.000   39.875
    Panama          6.000   10.750    4.625    6.250    0.000   27.625
    Costa Rica      6.000    8.500    3.125    4.125    0.000   21.750
    Honduras        6.750    7.500    3.125    3.167    0.000   20.542
    El Salvador     3.000    3.750    3.333    1.667    0.000   11.750
    Guatemala       4.500    4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    9.000
    Nicaragua       0.000    3.000    2.250    1.000    0.000    6.250
    CFU             3.000    1.000    0.250    1.000    0.000    5.250
    Belize          4.500    0.000    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500
                
                
    Club Coefficient
          
    Club        2015-16  2016-17  2017-18  2018-19  2019-20    Overall
    UANL        29.3333  31.0000  14.2083  24.8750   0.0000    99.4166
    America     38.8333   6.0000  20.7083   5.3750   0.0000    70.9166
    Santos      25.3333   6.0000   4.7083  24.3750   0.0000    60.4166
    Monterrey    7.3333  12.0000   4.7083  31.3750   0.0000    55.4166
    Pachuca      7.3333  34.5000   4.7083   5.3750   0.0000    51.9166
    New York     4.2917  16.0417  18.3750  11.0833   0.0000    49.7917
    Guadalajara  7.3333   6.0000  29.2083   5.3750   0.0000    47.9166
    Arabe Unido  8.0000  20.5833   7.0417   8.0833   0.0000    43.7083
    Queretaro   23.8333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750   0.0000    39.9166
    Vancouver    6.0000  26.0000   7.0000   0.5000   0.0000    39.5000
    Toronto      1.5000   6.5000  28.0000   2.0000   0.0000    38.0000
    UNAM         7.3333  18.5000   4.7083   5.3750   0.0000    35.9166
    Dallas       4.2917  21.5417   5.3750   3.0833   0.0000    34.2917
    Seattle     15.2917   3.5417  10.3750   3.0833   0.0000    32.2917
    Olimpia      8.2500  10.0000  12.0417   1.0556   0.0000    31.3474
    Herediano    8.0000   7.3333   2.5417  13.3750   0.0000    31.2500
    Kansas City  4.2917   8.0417   2.3750  16.0833   0.0000    30.7917
    Saprissa     8.0000  15.3333   2.5417   4.3750   0.0000    30.2500
    Tijuana      7.3333   6.0000  11.2083   5.3750   0.0000    29.9166
    D.C. United 18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833   0.0000    27.2917
    Salt Lake   18.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833   0.0000    27.2917
    LA Galaxy   16.7917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833   0.0000    25.7917
    Motagua      9.7500   2.5000   2.5417  10.0556   0.0000    24.8474
    Mexico       7.3333   6.0000   4.7083   5.3750   0.0000    23.4166
    Atlanta      4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833   0.0000    21.2917
    Houston      4.2917   3.5417   2.3750  11.0833   0.0000    21.2917
    Portland     4.2917  11.0417   2.3750   3.0833   0.0000    20.7917
    Tauro        2.0000   3.5833   6.5417   8.5833   0.0000    20.7083
    Plaza Amador 2.0000   8.0833   6.5417   2.0833   0.0000    18.7083
    Independiente2.0000   3.5833   1.5417  11.5833   0.0000    18.7083
    Santos d.G.  2.0000   2.8333  10.5417   2.3750   0.0000    17.7500
    Canada       1.5000   6.5000   7.0000   0.5000   0.0000    15.5000
    Alianza      1.0000   7.2500   5.1111   2.0556   0.0000    15.4167
    S. Francisco 8.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833   0.0000    15.2083
    Colorado     4.2917   3.5417   3.8750   3.0833   0.0000    14.7917
    H. Progreso  2.2500  10.0000   1.0417   1.0556   0.0000    14.3474
    USA          4.2917   3.5417   2.3750   3.0833   0.0000    13.2917
    Chorrillo    2.0000   3.5833   4.5417   2.0833   0.0000    12.2083
    Universitario2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   5.0833   0.0000    12.2083
    Santa Tecla  4.0000   1.2500   4.1111   1.5556   0.0000    10.9167
    Panama       2.0000   3.5833   1.5417   2.0833   0.0000     9.2083
    Suchitepequez1.5000   7.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     9.0000
    Perez Zeledon2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.8750   0.0000     7.7500
    Central      5.5000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333   0.0000     7.7499
    W. Ferretti  0.0000   1.0000   4.2500   2.3333   0.0000     7.5833
    Comun. (GUA) 6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     7.5000
    Municipal    6.0000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     7.5000
    Real Espana  2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.5556   0.0000     7.3474
    Costa Rica   2.0000   2.8333   1.0417   1.3750   0.0000     7.2500
    Aguila       1.0000   1.2500   4.1111   0.5556   0.0000     6.9167
    Is. Metapan  4.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556   0.0000     6.9167
    Honduras     2.2500   2.5000   1.0417   1.0556   0.0000     6.8474
    FAS          1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   3.0556   0.0000     6.4167
    W Connection 4.0000   1.8333   0.0833   0.3333   0.0000     6.2499
    Real Esteli  0.0000   4.0000   1.7500   0.3333   0.0000     6.0833
    Antigua (GUA)1.5000   4.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Verdes       6.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Dragon       1.0000   2.7500   1.1111   0.5556   0.0000     5.4167
    Portmore Utd 1.0000   0.3333   1.0833   2.3333   0.0000     4.7499
    El Salvador  1.0000   1.2500   1.1111   0.5556   0.0000     3.9167
    Montego Bay  2.5000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333   0.0000     3.2499
    Guatemala    1.5000   1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     3.0000
    Arnett Gard. 1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333   0.0000     2.7499
    Franciscain  1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   1.3333   0.0000     2.7499
    Nicaragua    0.0000   1.0000   0.7500   0.3333   0.0000     2.0833
    CFU          1.0000   0.3333   0.0833   0.3333   0.0000     1.7499
    Belize       1.5000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The amount of clubs dropped from 61 to 56. If I counted right, clubs passing or tying other clubs happened 160 times.
     
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  19. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Actually the CPL club, Forge, are ranked 6th by elo going into this, so yes they could do quite well here. The top 2 clubs are from Panama, Costa Rica is #3 and #5, Honduras #4. Trouble is Forge will play that Honduran club Olimpia if they get past the 1st phase, so that's a high level matchup almost right away.
     
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Forge beating up on other CPL clubs doesn’t mean anything going into this... Until CPL teams start playing teams from other leagues, that ELO rating is pure bunk..
     
  21. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 1, 2005
    Nevada
    First we have to see how they match up against Antigua GFC (GUA). It will be quite interesting.
     
  22. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Of course it's not bunk, they had to be given a rating going in, and that's what they got, you want to keep underrating them and thinking they are no good and thinking the CPL isn't a comparable league to these others, go ahead, we'll find out soon enough.
     
  23. Goaler

    Goaler Member

    Bristol City, Slavia Prague, Pacific FC, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, Vancouver Whitecaps, Philadelphia Union
    England
    Apr 11, 2007
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Yes, Antigua are ranked 16th by ELO out of the 22 clubs, I suspect Forge could do quite well.
     
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  24. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    They just get a default number. It's useless for comparative purposes until they're actually playing interleague matches, which they haven't even done in Canada yet.

    I'm curious as to where you're seeing Concacaf club Elo ratings though.
     
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  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m not underrating them... There simply isn’t enough data to draw a conclusion about where they stand.. They’ve only played CPL clubs at this point and the league as a whole has only had 4 games against Canadian lower division clubs.. We’ll find out some more info next week when the CPL teams take on the Fury and MLS clubs, but even that will be a limited data set...
     
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