CONCACAF Champions League Coefficient

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions League' started by ArsenalMetro, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    Considering the distributions of wealth and population in C'CAF versus UEFA, that difference should be entirely expected. In fact I'd say Costa Rica is bucking the expectation.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #552 ArsenalMetro, Apr 6, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2016
    Wonder how different this would be if CONCACAF had a second-tier competition. Imagine a 16-team knockout stage in the CONCACAF Liga Americana that featured Saprissa, Herediano, San Francisco, Central, Motagua, Olimpia, Municipal, and Arabe Unido along with 8 group stage qualifiers.

    I think that caliber of team could compete well against, for example, Atlas, Chiapas, New England, etc.

    Dream second-tier tournament: 16 teams, 4 groups of 4, 2 each from MEX, USA, CRC, GUA, CFU, 1 from HON, PAN, SLV, NCA, BLZ, CAN.

    Please ignore the financial difficulties associated with this.

    EDIT: Or, skip the group stage entirely, run a straight knockout tournament from February - May.

    Round of 16: February
    Quarterfinals: March
    Semifinals: April
    Final: May
     
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  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2015-16 Final, First Leg

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - America over Santos (new #1!)
    - First-time Mexican qualifier over San Jose

    Code:
    As of April 20, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2011-12  2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  Overall
    Mexico         20.000   19.875   20.125   14.375   20.750   95.125
    United States  12.250   14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875   61.375
    Canada         19.000    6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500   57.500
    Costa Rica     10.750   10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000   52.167
    Guatemala       5.000    8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500   30.000
    Honduras        4.667    5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750   28.917
    Panama          4.500    0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000   20.500
    El Salvador     7.000    2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000   18.750
    CFU             0.500    3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    9.000
    Nicaragua       0.000    1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    6.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2011-12  2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16    Overall
    America      6.6667   6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  33.4167    94.2084
    Santos      25.6667  31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  24.9167    93.7084
    Monterrey   26.6667  39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   6.9167    84.7084
    Los Angeles 14.0833  22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917    74.9584
    Herediano    7.5833  17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000    68.3889
    UANL         6.6667  20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  28.9167    67.7084
    Alajuelense 11.5833  11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000    65.8889
    Cruz Azul    6.6667   6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   6.9167    64.7084
    Seattle     14.0833  24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917    60.9584
    Toluca       6.6667   6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   6.9167    59.7084
    D.C. United  4.0833   4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917    51.4584
    Tijuana      6.6667   6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   6.9167    51.2084
    Queretaro    6.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.4167    48.2084
    Montreal     6.3333   2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000    47.1666
    Pachuca      6.6667   6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   6.9167    45.7084
    UNAM        19.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   6.9167    44.7084
    Houston      4.0833  18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917    41.9584
    Kansas City  4.0833   4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917    41.9584
    Salt Lake    4.0833  12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917    41.9584
    Olimpia      1.5556   7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500    41.6389
    Morelia     15.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   6.9167    40.7084
    Guadalajara  6.6667  14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   6.9167    39.2084
    Leon         6.6667   6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   6.9167    39.2084
    Toronto     19.3333   8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000    38.1666
    Comun. (GUA) 6.6667   2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000    33.0000
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000    32.8889
    Mexico       6.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   6.9167    31.7084
    San Jose     4.0833   4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917    31.4584
    Portland     4.0833   4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917    29.4584
    New York     4.0833   4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917    26.4584
    Is. Metapan 11.3333   3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000    25.7500
    Colorado     9.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    25.4584
    Dallas       9.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    25.4584
    Arabe Unido  1.5000   0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000    25.3333
    Municipal    1.6667   8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000    25.0000
    Vancouver    6.3333   2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000    23.6666
    Cartagines   3.5833   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000    21.8889
    Xelaju       1.6667  13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000    21.0000
    USA          4.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    20.4584
    Canada       6.3333   2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000    19.1666
    Real Espana  5.5556   1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500    18.1389
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000    17.3889
    Motagua      1.5556   1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500    17.1389
    Heredia      1.6667   2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000    16.0000
    Marathon     1.5556   6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500    14.1389
    L.A. Firpo   2.3333   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000    13.7500
    S. Francisco 1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000    12.8333
    Chorrillo    1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000    11.3333
    Tauro        5.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000    10.8333
    FAS          2.3333   3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000    10.7500
    W Connection 0.1667   4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000    10.5001
    Guatemala    1.6667   2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000    10.0000
    S. Miguelito 1.5000   0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000     9.8333
    Honduras     1.5556   1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500     9.6389
    Santa Tecla  2.3333   0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000     9.2500
    Waterhouse   0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000     9.0001
    Real Esteli  0.0000   2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Central      0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000     7.5001
    Puerto Rico  0.1667   5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     7.5001
    Panama       1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000     6.8333
    El Salvador  2.3333   0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000     6.2500
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000     6.0000
    Caledonia    0.1667   2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     4.5001
    Montego Bay  0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000     4.5001
    CFU          0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     3.0001
    W. Ferretti  0.0000   0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Nicaragua    0.0000   0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000     1.5000
    Santos's run at the top lasted from October 23, 2015 until today.
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

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    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2015-16 CONCACAF Champions League

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Tijuana over D.C. United

    Code:
    As of May 1, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2011-12  2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  Overall
    Mexico         20.000   19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000   96.375
    United States  12.250   14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875   61.375
    Canada         19.000    6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500   57.500
    Costa Rica     10.750   10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000   52.167
    Guatemala       5.000    8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500   30.000
    Honduras        4.667    5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750   28.917
    Panama          4.500    0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000   20.500
    El Salvador     7.000    2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000   18.750
    CFU             0.500    3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    9.000
    Nicaragua       0.000    1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    6.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2011-12  2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16    Overall
    America      6.6667   6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333    99.6250
    Santos      25.6667  31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333    94.1250
    Monterrey   26.6667  39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333    85.1250
    Los Angeles 14.0833  22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917    74.9584
    Herediano    7.5833  17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000    68.3889
    UANL         6.6667  20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333    68.1250
    Alajuelense 11.5833  11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000    65.8889
    Cruz Azul    6.6667   6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333    65.1250
    Seattle     14.0833  24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917    60.9584
    Toluca       6.6667   6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333    60.1250
    Tijuana      6.6667   6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333    51.6250
    D.C. United  4.0833   4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917    51.4584
    Queretaro    6.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333    48.6250
    Montreal     6.3333   2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000    47.1666
    Pachuca      6.6667   6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333    46.1250
    UNAM        19.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333    45.1250
    Houston      4.0833  18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917    41.9584
    Kansas City  4.0833   4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917    41.9584
    Salt Lake    4.0833  12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917    41.9584
    Olimpia      1.5556   7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500    41.6389
    Morelia     15.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333    41.1250
    Guadalajara  6.6667  14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333    39.6250
    Leon         6.6667   6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333    39.6250
    Toronto     19.3333   8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000    38.1666
    Comun. (GUA) 6.6667   2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000    33.0000
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000    32.8889
    Mexico       6.6667   6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333    32.1250
    San Jose     4.0833   4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917    31.4584
    Portland     4.0833   4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917    29.4584
    New York     4.0833   4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917    26.4584
    Is. Metapan 11.3333   3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000    25.7500
    Colorado     9.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    25.4584
    Dallas       9.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    25.4584
    Arabe Unido  1.5000   0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000    25.3333
    Municipal    1.6667   8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000    25.0000
    Vancouver    6.3333   2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000    23.6666
    Cartagines   3.5833   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000    21.8889
    Xelaju       1.6667  13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000    21.0000
    USA          4.0833   4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917    20.4584
    Canada       6.3333   2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000    19.1666
    Real Espana  5.5556   1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500    18.1389
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000    17.3889
    Motagua      1.5556   1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500    17.1389
    Heredia      1.6667   2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000    16.0000
    Marathon     1.5556   6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500    14.1389
    L.A. Firpo   2.3333   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000    13.7500
    S. Francisco 1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000    12.8333
    Chorrillo    1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000    11.3333
    Tauro        5.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000    10.8333
    FAS          2.3333   3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000    10.7500
    W Connection 0.1667   4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000    10.5001
    Guatemala    1.6667   2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000    10.0000
    S. Miguelito 1.5000   0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000     9.8333
    Honduras     1.5556   1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500     9.6389
    Santa Tecla  2.3333   0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000     9.2500
    Waterhouse   0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000     9.0001
    Real Esteli  0.0000   2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Central      0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000     7.5001
    Puerto Rico  0.1667   5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     7.5001
    Panama       1.5000   0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000     6.8333
    El Salvador  2.3333   0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000     6.2500
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000     6.0000
    Caledonia    0.1667   2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     4.5001
    Montego Bay  0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000     4.5001
    CFU          0.1667   1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000     3.0001
    W. Ferretti  0.0000   0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Nicaragua    0.0000   0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000     1.5000
     
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  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Hypothetical coefficient-based draw time. Pots based on club coefficients at the end of the 2015-16 Champions League, draw done with a random number generator.

    Pot 1: Monterrey (85.1250), Herediano (68.3889), UANL (68.1250), Pachuca (46.1250), UNAM (45.1250), Kansas City (41.9584), Olimpia (41.6389), Saprissa (32.8889)

    Pot 2: Portland (29.4584), New York (26.4584), Dallas (25.4584), Arabe Unido (25.3333), Vancouver (23.6666), W Connection (10.5001), Antigua (10.0000), Suchitepequez (10.0000)

    Pot 3: Honduras Progreso (9.6389), Real Esteli (8.0000), Central (7.5001), Plaza Amador (6.8333), Alianza (6.2500), Dragon (6.2500), Don Bosco (3.0001), Police United (1.5000)

    Differences from the real pots: Herediano, Olimpia, and Saprissa move up to the top pot, replacing Portland, New York, and Dallas. W Connection moves into Pot 2, replacing Honduras Progreso.

    Group A: Pachuca (MEX), Portland (USA), Don Bosco (CFU/HAI)
    Group B: Herediano (CRC), Antigua (GUA), Police United (BLZ)
    Group C: UNAM (MEX), W Connection (CFU/TRI), Real Esteli (NCA)
    Group D: Monterrey (MEX), Vancouver (CAN), Central (CFU/TRI)
    Group E: Olimpia (HON), Suchitepequez (GUA), Plaza Amador (PAN)
    Group F: Saprissa (CRC), Dallas (USA), Alianza (SLV)
    Group G: Kansas City (USA), Arabe Unido (PAN), Dragon (SLV)
    Group H: UANL (MEX), New York (USA), Honduras Progreso (HON)

    The new top seeds largely improve their chances; Herediano and Olimpia both get pretty easy groups, while New York, Portland, and Dallas all have an uphill climb to the knockouts.

    If I'm running a big club in a Central American federation, I'm clamoring for a change to a format like this. Herediano, for example, have been far better in this tournament, historically, than any of the MLS representatives, but they're treated like anyone else from Costa Rica. As a result, they're saddled with Tigres in real life. They deserve better than that.
     
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  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    I like coefficient-based draws, but I think that might be a little counter-productive in the current CCL format where only one team from each group advances. Since the three-team-groups were put into effect, the team that came in top-ranked has almost always been the one to advance, so doing a coefficient-based draw would likely further isolate the top 7-10 teams in the region above the rest.
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Before 2016-17 CONCACAF Champions League

    Federation Movement
    - Costa Rica over Canada

    Club Movement
    - UANL over Monterrey, Los Angeles, and Herediano
    - Los Angeles over Monterrey
    - Herediano over Monterrey
    - Cruz Azul over Alajuelense, tied with Monterrey
    - Toluca over Seattle
    - D.C. United over Seattle and Tijuana
    - Olimpia over Pachuca, UNAM, Houston, Kansas City, and Salt Lake
    - Houston over UNAM
    - Kansas City over UNAM
    - Salt Lake over UNAM
    - Guadalajara over UNAM
    - Leon over UNAM
    - Saprissa over UNAM, Toronto, and Comunicaciones
    - San Jose over UNAM, Toronto, Comunicaciones, and First-time Mexican qualifier
    - Comunicaciones over UNAM and Toronto
    - First-time Mexican qualifier over Toronto
    - Portland over Toronto
    - Arabe Unido over Toronto, New York, Isidro Metapan, and Dallas
    - Municipal over Toronto, New York, Isidro Metapan, and Dallas
    - New York over Toronto
    - Xelaju over Toronto, Isidro Metapan, Dallas, Vancouver, and Cartagines
    - Cartagines over Isidro Metapan, Dallas, and Vancouver
    - Vancouver over Isidro Metapan and Dallas
    - Dallas over Isidro Metapan
    - First-time American qualifier over Isidro Metapan
    - Motagua over Isidro Metapan, First-time Canadian qualifier, Real Espana, and First-time Costa Rican qualifier
    - Heredia over First-time Canadian qualifier, Real Espana, and First-time Costa Rican qualifier
    - First-time Costa Rican qualifier over First-time Canadian qualifier and Real Espana
    - W Connection over Chorrillo and FAS
    - Waterhouse over FAS, First-time Guatemalan qualifier, San Miguelito, First-time Honduran qualifer, and Santa Tecla
    - San Miguelito over First-time Guatemalan qualifier
    - Real Esteli over Santa Tecla
    - Central over Santa Tecla
    - PR Islanders over Santa Tecla
    - Verdes over First-time Panamanian qualifier and First-time Salvadoran qualifier
    - Caledonia over First-time Salvadoran qualifier
    - Montego Bay over First-time Salvadoran qualifier

    Clubs added to active rankings
    - Antigua (GUA)
    - Suchitepequez (GUA)
    - Honduras Progreso (HON)
    - Plaza Amador (PAN)
    - Alianza (SLV)
    - Dragon (SLV)
    - Don Bosco (CFU/HAI)
    - Police United (BLZ)

    Clubs removed from active rankings (no points earned in 5 seasons and not qualified for 2016/17)
    - Morelia (MEX)
    - Colorado (USA)
    - Tauro (PAN)

    Code:
    As of May 31, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    0.000   76.375
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    0.000   49.125
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    0.000   41.417
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    0.000   38.500
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    0.000   25.000
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    0.000   24.250
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    0.000   16.000
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    0.000   11.750
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    0.000    8.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    0.000    6.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   0.0000    92.9583
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   0.0000    68.4583
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   0.0000    61.4583
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   0.0000    60.8751
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   0.0000    60.8056
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    58.4583
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   0.0000    58.4583
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   0.0000    54.3056
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    53.4583
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   0.0000    47.3751
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   0.0000    46.8751
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    44.9583
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   0.0000    41.9583
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   0.0000    40.8333
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   0.0000    40.0833
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333   0.0000    39.4583
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   0.0000    37.8751
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   0.0000    37.8751
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   0.0000    37.8751
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    32.9583
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   0.0000    32.9583
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   0.0000    29.3056
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   0.0000    27.3751
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   0.0000    26.3333
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    25.4583
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.0000    25.4583
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   0.0000    25.3751
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000   0.0000    23.8333
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   0.0000    23.3333
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917   0.0000    22.3751
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000    19.3333
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   0.0000    18.8333
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   0.0000    18.3056
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000   0.0000    17.3333
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   0.0000    16.3751
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   0.0000    16.3751
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   0.0000    15.5833
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.0000    14.4167
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000    14.3333
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   0.0000    13.8056
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   0.0000    12.8333
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   0.0000    12.5833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000    12.5833
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000    11.4167
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   0.0000    11.3333
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   0.0000    10.3334
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   0.0000     9.8333
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.0000     8.8334
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.0000     8.4167
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.0000     8.3333
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000     8.0833
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000     8.0833
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   0.0000     7.3334
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     7.3334
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.0000     6.9167
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.0000     5.3333
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.0000     5.3333
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     4.3334
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.0000     4.3334
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     2.8334
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     2.8334
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  8. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    Code:
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    0.000   49.125
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    0.000   41.417
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    0.000   38.500
    Dang... were it not for that crazy '14-'15 season, the US wouldn't have nearly as much competition for 2nd place as it does at all...
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2016-17 Group Stage, Matchday 1

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Herediano over UANL and Los Angeles
    - Monterrey over Los Angeles, tied with UANL
    - Pachuca over Queretaro, Montreal, and Olimpia
    - UNAM over San Jose and Comunicaciones
    - Portland over San Jose, Comunicaciones, and First-time Mexican qualifier
    - New York over Arabe Unido and Municipal
    - Toronto over Xelaju
    - Vancouver over Toronto, Xelaju, and Cartagines
    - Dallas over Toronto, Xelaju, and Cartagines
    - San Francisco over L.A. Firpo
    - San Miguelito over FAS
    - Plaza Amador over Santa Tecla and Verdes

    Code:
    As of August 5, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient         
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    2.250   78.625
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    2.250   51.375
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    0.750   42.167
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    3.000   41.500
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    0.000   25.000
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    0.000   24.250
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    0.750   16.750
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    0.000   11.750
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    0.000    8.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    0.000    6.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                
                
    Club Coefficient
          
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   0.7500    93.7083
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   0.7500    69.2083
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   1.7500    62.5556
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   3.7500    62.2083
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   0.7500    62.2083
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   0.7500    61.6251
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   0.7500    59.2083
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   0.2500    54.5556
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.7500    54.2083
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   0.7500    48.1251
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   0.7500    47.6251
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   0.7500    45.7083
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333   3.7500    43.2083
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   0.7500    42.7083
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   1.0000    41.8333
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   0.0000    40.0833
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   0.7500    38.6251
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   0.7500    38.6251
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   0.7500    38.6251
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.7500    33.7083
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   0.7500    33.7083
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   0.2500    29.5556
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   3.7500    29.2083
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   3.7500    29.1251
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   0.7500    28.1251
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   0.0000    26.3333
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   0.7500    26.2083
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917   3.7500    26.1251
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000   0.2500    24.0833
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   0.0000    23.3333
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000   4.0000    21.3333
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   3.7500    20.1251
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   1.0000    19.8333
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000    19.3333
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   0.2500    18.5556
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   0.7500    17.1251
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   0.0000    15.5833
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.0000    14.4167
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000    14.3333
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   0.2500    14.0556
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   1.0000    13.8333
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   0.0000    12.5833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000    12.5833
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   0.2500    11.5833
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000    11.4167
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   0.0000    10.3334
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   0.2500    10.0833
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.0000     8.8334
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.2500     8.5833
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.0000     8.4167
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.0000     8.3333
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000     8.0833
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.0000     8.0833
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   0.0000     7.3334
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     7.3334
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.7500     7.0833
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.0000     6.9167
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.2500     5.5833
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     4.3334
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.0000     4.3334
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.0000     3.9167
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     2.8334
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.0000     2.8334
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Link to view: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aBxtH7eoNYxF2PoxaHpJ3t56lFqjLc80S2L5ECUyxFA/
     
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  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    I'm surprised that Guatemala has the second best Central American league.
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2016-17 Group Stage, Matchday 2

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - UANL over Herediano and Monterrey
    - Olimpia tied with Montreal
    - Kansas City over Houston
    - New York over Comunicaciones and First-time Mexican qualifier
    - Arabe Unido over Comunicaciones and First-time Mexican qualifier
    - Xelaju tied with Toronto
    - Heredia over Isidro Metapan
    - Chorrillo over W Connection
    - San Miguelito over Waterhouse
    - Antigua over FAS
    - Suchitepequez over L.A. Firpo, Chorrillo, W Connection, San Miguelito, Waterhouse, Antigua, and FAS
    - First-time Guatemalan qualifier over FAS
    - Central tied with Waterhouse, over Antigua, First-time Guatemalan qualifier, FAS, Honduras Progreso, first-time Honduran qualifier, and Real Esteli
    - Plaza Amador over Puerto Rico Islanders
    - First-time Panamanian qualifier over Verdes
    - Alianza over Caledonia AIA and Montego Bay United

    Code:
    As of August 19, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    3.750   80.125
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    3.000   52.125
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    2.250   43.667
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    3.000   41.500
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    1.500   26.500
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    0.750   25.000
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    2.250   18.250
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    0.750   12.500
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    0.500    9.000
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    0.000    6.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   1.2500    94.2083
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   1.2500    69.7083
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   4.2500    65.7083
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   2.2500    63.0556
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   4.2500    62.7083
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   1.0000    61.8751
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   1.2500    59.7083
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   0.7500    55.0556
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.2500    54.7083
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   1.0000    48.3751
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   1.0000    47.8751
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   1.2500    46.2083
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333   4.2500    43.7083
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   1.2500    43.2083
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   1.0000    41.8333
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   1.7500    41.8333
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   2.5000    40.3751
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   1.0000    38.8751
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   1.0000    38.8751
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.2500    34.2083
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   1.2500    34.2083
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   3.7500    33.0556
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   7.2500    32.7083
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   4.0000    29.3751
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.0000    28.3751
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917   5.5000    27.8751
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000   3.7500    27.5833
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   0.5000    26.8333
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.2500    26.7083
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   0.5000    23.8333
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000   4.0000    21.3333
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   4.0000    20.3751
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   1.0000    19.8333
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.5000    19.8333
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   0.7500    19.0556
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.0000    17.3751
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   0.2500    15.8333
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.5000    14.8333
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.2500    14.6667
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   0.7500    14.5556
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   1.0000    13.8333
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   0.2500    12.8333
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.2500    12.8333
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   0.7500    12.0833
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   3.5000    11.8333
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.2500    11.6667
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   0.7500    10.5833
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   0.1667    10.5001
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.7500     9.0833
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   1.6667     9.0001
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.1667     9.0001
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.5000     8.8333
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.5000     8.8333
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.2500     8.6667
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.2500     8.3333
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.2500     8.3333
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   0.0000     8.0000
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   2.2500     7.5833
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.1667     7.5001
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.2500     7.1667
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   0.7500     6.0833
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   1.7500     5.6667
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.1667     4.5001
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.1667     4.5001
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.2500     4.1667
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.2500     4.1667
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.1667     3.0001
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.1667     3.0001
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   0.0000     2.0000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2016-17 Group Stage, Matchday 3

    Federation Movement
    - Canada over Costa Rica

    Club Movement
    - Pachuca over Tijuana
    - Saprissa over Guadalajara and Leon
    - Arabe Unido over Portland, San Jose, and New York
    - First-time Mexican qualifier over Comunicaciones
    - Vancouver over Municipal
    - Isidro Metapan over Heredia
    - First-time Canadian qualifier over First-time Costa Rican qualifier
    - L.A. Firpo over Suchitepequez
    - W Connection tied with L.A. Firpo, over Suchitepequez and Chorrillo
    - Antigua (GUA) over San Miguelito, Central, and Waterhouse
    - FAS tied with Central and Waterhouse, over First-time Guatemalan qualifier
    - Honduras Progreso over San Miguelito, Central, Waterhouse, FAS, and First-time Guatemalan qualifier
    - Real Esteli over San Miguelito, Central, Waterhouse, FAS, First-time Guatemalan qualifier, and First-time Honduran qualifier
    - Santa Tecla tied with Puerto Rico Islanders
    - Alianza tied with Puerto Rico Islanders and Santa Tecla, over First-time Panamanian qualifier and Verdes
    - Dragon over Verdes, Caledonia AIA, and Montego Bay United
    - First-time Salvadoran qualifier tied with Caledonia AIA and Montego Bay United

    Code:
    As of August 29, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    5.250   81.625
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    3.375   52.500
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    6.000   44.500
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    3.000   44.417
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    2.250   27.250
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    1.500   25.750
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    3.750   19.750
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    2.250   14.000
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    1.000    9.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    1.500    7.500
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   1.7500    94.7083
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   1.7500    70.2083
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   7.7500    69.2083
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   2.5000    63.3056
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   4.7500    63.2083
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   1.1250    62.0001
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   1.7500    60.2083
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   1.0000    55.3056
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.7500    55.2083
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   1.1250    48.5001
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   1.1250    48.0001
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333   7.7500    47.2083
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   1.7500    46.7083
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   1.7500    43.7083
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   2.0000    42.8333
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   2.0000    42.0833
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   2.6250    40.5001
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   1.1250    39.0001
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   1.1250    39.0001
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   5.5000    34.8056
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.7500    34.7083
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   1.7500    34.7083
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   7.7500    33.2083
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000   7.2500    31.0833
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   4.1250    29.5001
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.1250    28.5001
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917   5.6250    28.0001
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   1.7500    27.2083
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   0.7500    27.0833
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000   8.0000    25.3333
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   0.7500    24.0833
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   5.6250    22.0001
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   2.0000    20.8333
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.7500    20.0833
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   1.0000    19.3056
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.1250    17.5001
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   0.5000    16.0833
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500    15.1667
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.7500    15.0833
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   2.0000    14.8333
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   1.0000    14.8056
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   0.5000    13.0833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.5000    13.0833
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   1.2500    12.5833
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500    12.1667
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   1.8333    12.1667
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   3.7500    12.0833
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   1.2500    11.0833
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   2.2500    10.5833
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   2.0000    10.0833
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   2.0000    10.0000
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.2500     9.5833
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   1.8333     9.1667
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333     9.1667
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.7500     9.1667
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   0.7500     9.0833
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   0.5000     8.5833
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   2.7500     8.0833
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     7.6667
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500     7.6667
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   3.7500     7.6667
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.2500     6.5833
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   2.2500     6.1667
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     4.6667
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.3333     4.6667
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500     4.6667
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   0.5000     2.5000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Here's a comparison of the distributions of ArsenalMetro's club coefficients to the UEFA club coefficients through 2015-2016:

    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 80 percent of the top coefficient: 0 in CONCACAF, 3 in UEFA
    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 60 percent of the top coefficient: 7 in CONCACAF, 8 in UEFA
    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 50 percent of the top coefficient: 11 in CONCACAF, 17 in UEFA
    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 40 percent of the top coefficient: 19 in CONCACAF, 23 in UEFA
    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 20 percent of the top coefficient: 34 in CONCACAF, 60 in UEFA
    Amount of clubs other than the top club with at least 10 percent of the top coefficient: 48 in CONCACAF, 107 in UEFA

    CONCACAF starts out with more and then UEFA grows much faster. That's because UEFA has 233 clubs competiting in 2016-2017 (it was about that amount for the five seasons before that) and CONCACAF has 24 clubs competing. It's not a fair comparison, but I made it anyway. For both confederations, I only included clubs. I didn't include coefficients for something like "first time Costa Rican qualifier."
     
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  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2016-17 Group Stage, Matchday 4

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - Pachuca over D.C. United and Seattle
    - Arabe Unido over UNAM
    - New York over Portland and San Jose
    - Vancouver over San Jose, First-time Mexican qualifier, Comunicaciones
    - Heredia over Isidro Metapan
    - First-time Canadian qualifier over Heredia and Isidro Metapan
    - First-time Costa Rican qualifier over Heredia and Isidro Metapan
    - Suchitepequez over Real Espana, Marathon, San Francisco, L.A. Firpo, and W Connection
    - Honduras Progreso tied with Real Espana and Marathon, over San Francisco, L.A. Firpo, W Connection, Chorrillo, and Antigua (GUA)
    - Real Esteli over Chorrillo and Antigua (GUA)
    - First-time Guatemalan qualifier over Central, Waterhouse, and FAS

    Code:
    As of September 18, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    6.000   82.375
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    4.125   53.250
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500    9.000   47.500
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    6.000   47.417
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    3.000   28.000
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    3.000   27.250
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    5.250   21.250
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    2.250   14.000
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    1.000    9.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    3.000    9.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   2.0000    94.9583
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   2.0000    70.4583
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   8.0000    69.4583
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   6.5000    67.3056
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   5.0000    63.4583
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   1.3750    62.2501
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   2.0000    60.4583
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   2.0000    56.3056
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.0000    55.4583
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333  11.0000    50.4583
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   1.3750    48.7501
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   1.3750    48.2501
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   2.0000    46.9583
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   2.0000    43.9583
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   3.0000    43.8333
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   2.5000    42.5833
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   2.8750    40.7501
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   1.3750    39.2501
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   1.3750    39.2501
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   9.5000    38.8056
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.0000    34.9583
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   2.0000    34.9583
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000  10.7500    34.5833
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   8.0000    33.4583
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917   8.8750    31.2501
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   4.3750    29.7501
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000  12.0000    29.3333
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.3750    28.7501
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.0000    27.4583
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   1.0000    27.3333
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   1.0000    24.3333
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   5.8750    22.2501
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   3.0000    21.8333
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.0000    20.3333
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   2.0000    20.3056
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.3750    17.7501
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   1.0000    16.5833
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   3.0000    15.8333
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   2.0000    15.8056
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.0000    15.3333
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500    15.1667
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   5.5000    13.8333
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   1.0000    13.5833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   1.0000    13.5833
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   5.5000    13.5833
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   1.7500    13.0833
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500    12.1667
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   1.8333    12.1667
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   4.0000    12.0000
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   1.7500    11.5833
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   2.5000    10.8333
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.7500    10.0833
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.0000     9.3333
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   1.8333     9.1667
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333     9.1667
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.7500     9.1667
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   1.0000     9.0833
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   3.2500     8.5833
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     7.6667
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500     7.6667
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   3.7500     7.6667
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.7500     7.0833
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   2.2500     6.1667
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     4.6667
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.3333     4.6667
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500     4.6667
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   1.0000     3.0000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not adding the first-team qualifier notes to movement anymore because it's clunky.

    After 2016-17 Group Stage, Matchday 5

    Federation Movement
    - Honduras over Guatemala

    Club Movement
    - Montreal over Queretaro
    - Olimpia over Montreal and Queretaro
    - Vancouver over New York and Portland
    - Suchitepequez over Isidro Metapan
    - Honduras Progresso tied with Motagua, over Heredia, Suchitepequez, Isidro Metapan, Real Espana, and Marathon
    - Chorrillo over Real Esteli
    - Antigua (GUA) over L.A. Firpo, W Connection, Chorrillo, and Real Esteli
    - Plaza Amador tied with Chorrillo, over Real Esteli, San Miguelito, Central, Waterhouse, and FAS

    Code:
    As of October 2, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000    6.750   83.125
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    5.625   54.750
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500   12.000   50.500
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    6.000   47.417
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    6.000   30.250
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    4.500   29.500
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    6.750   22.750
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    2.250   14.000
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    1.000    9.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    3.000    9.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   2.2500    95.2083
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   2.2500    70.7083
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333   8.2500    69.7083
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   6.5000    67.3056
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   8.2500    66.7083
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   1.8750    62.7501
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   2.2500    60.7083
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   2.0000    56.3056
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.2500    55.7083
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333  11.2500    50.7083
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   1.8750    49.2501
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   1.8750    48.7501
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   2.2500    47.2083
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500   6.5000    46.5833
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   4.0000    44.8333
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   2.2500    44.2083
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   3.3750    41.2501
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   1.8750    39.7501
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   1.8750    39.7501
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000   9.5000    38.8056
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.2500    35.2083
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   2.2500    35.2083
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000  11.2500    35.0833
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   8.2500    33.7083
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000  16.0000    33.3333
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917  10.8750    33.2501
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917   7.8750    33.2501
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.8750    29.2501
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   1.5000    27.8333
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   2.2500    27.7083
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   1.5000    24.8333
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   7.8750    24.2501
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   4.0000    22.8333
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000    20.8333
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   2.0000    20.3056
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   1.8750    18.2501
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   2.0000    17.5833
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   9.5000    17.5833
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   4.0000    16.8333
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000    15.8333
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   7.5000    15.8333
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   2.0000    15.8056
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500    15.1667
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   2.0000    14.5833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   2.0000    14.5833
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   2.2500    13.5833
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   4.5000    12.8333
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500    12.1667
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   1.8333    12.1667
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   2.2500    12.0833
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   6.7500    12.0833
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   4.0000    12.0000
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   2.2500    10.5833
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   2.0000    10.0833
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000     9.8333
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   1.8333     9.1667
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333     9.1667
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   0.7500     9.1667
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     7.6667
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   0.7500     7.6667
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   3.7500     7.6667
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   1.7500     7.0833
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   2.2500     6.1667
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     4.6667
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.3333     4.6667
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   0.7500     4.6667
    Don Bosco    1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   1.0000     3.0000
    Police Utd.  0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    I'm not saying ArsenalMetro's coefficients are wrong, but look at Houston. They're 18th in the CONCACAF coefficients and 19th in MLS in points per game.

    The United States, Canada, and Costa Rica are close for the second best league. I decided to look at the top non-Mexican club in each CCL to see what countries those clubs are from:

    2008-2009: Puerto Rico Islanders was the only non-Mexican Semifinalist.

    2009-2010: The four Semifinalists were all Mexican. If you rank the Quarterfinal losers by aggregate goal differential and then goals scored, Columbus was the best non-Mexican club. They lost their aggregate 5-4, Comunicaciones lost their aggregate 3-2, and the other two aggregates were decided by at least 3 goals. Comunicaciones lost to eventual champion Pachuca. Columbus lost to Toluca, who lost to Pachuca in the Semifinals. The UEFA club coefficients treat all accomplishments in the same round the same regardless of the difficulty of the opponent, so I'm going to follow that and declare Columbus the top non-Mexican club that season.

    2010-2011: Real Salt Lake lost in the Final and was the top non-Mexican club.

    2011-2012: Toronto FC was the only non-Mexican Semifinalist.

    2012-2013: Both Semifinals had a Mexican club beating an American club. Seattle lost their aggregate 2-1, and Los Angeles lost their aggregate 3-1, so that makes Seattle the top non-Mexican club.

    2013-2014: Alajuelense was the only non-Mexican Semifinalist.

    2014-2015: Montreal lost in the Final and was the top non-Mexican club.

    2015-2016: The four Quarterfinals all had a Mexican club beating an American club. If you rank the Quarterfinal losers by aggregate goal differential and then goals scored, Seattle was the best non-Mexican club. They lost their aggregate 5-3. The other three aggregates were 3-1, 3-1, and 4-0.

    For those eight CCLs, the top non-Mexican club came from the United States four times, from Canada two times, from Costa Rica once, and from Puerto Rico once. Seattle was the only club to be the top non-Mexican club twice.
     
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    Well, that's not anywhere near an apples-to-apples comparison. First, these rankings are a five-year aggregate, while Houston's current 19th place in MLS is literally just one season. Second, how teams performs in their domestic league aren't necessarily how they perform in the domestic cup aren't necessarily how they perform in international cups.
     
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  18. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    And the number holding Houston up that high is almost entirely their 2012-13 performance, which drops after this year. At the start of next year's rankings, they'll only be 7.5 points above the baseline US number, which puts them in Municipal territory. If they fail to qualify again (looks likely, based on the overall club trajectory), they'll fall into that baseline US number and not even warrant recognition in the club rankings (see: Chicago, Philadelphia).
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    After 2016-17 Group Stage, with advancement bonuses added

    Federation Movement
    None

    Club Movement
    - UANL over Santos Laguna
    - Olimpia over Seattle and Tijuana
    - Saprissa over Houston and Salt Lake
    - Arabe Unido over Houston, Salt Lake, Guadalajara, and Leon
    - UNAM over Guadalajara and Leon
    - New York over Vancouver
    - Dallas tied with San Jose, over Comunicaciones and Municipal
    - Cartagines over Xelaju
    - Honduras Progreso tied with Motagua
    - Chorrillo over Antigua (GUA), L.A. Firpo, and W Connection
    - Plaza Amador over Antigua (GUA), L.A. Firpo, and W Connection
    - FAS over Central and Waterhouse
    - Santa Tecla over PR Islanders
    - Alianza over FAS, Central, Waterhouse, Santa Tecla, and PR Islanders

    Dropped From Rankings (no points above generic club from federation)
    - Don Bosco (CFU/HAI)
    - Police United (BLZ)

    Code:
    As of October 22, 2016
    
    Federation Coefficient           
    
    Nation        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17  Overall
    Mexico         19.875   20.125   14.375   22.000   10.125   86.500
    United States  14.750   11.625    9.875   12.875    8.500   57.625
    Canada          6.000    6.000   22.000    4.500   14.000   52.500
    Costa Rica     10.750    9.000   15.667    6.000    7.750   49.167
    Honduras        5.250    3.750    8.500    6.750    7.500   31.750
    Guatemala       8.500    6.000    6.000    4.500    4.500   29.500
    Panama          0.000    7.750    2.250    6.000    9.250   25.250
    El Salvador     2.000    6.000    0.750    3.000    3.750   15.500
    CFU             3.000    0.500    2.000    3.000    1.000    9.500
    Nicaragua       1.500    1.500    3.000    0.000    3.000    9.000
    Belize          0.000    0.000    0.000    4.500    0.000    4.500
                  
                  
    Club Coefficient
            
    Club        2012-13  2013-14  2014-15  2015-16  2016-17    Overall
    America      6.6250  12.7083  34.7917  38.8333   3.3750    96.3333
    UANL        20.6250   6.7083   4.7917  29.3333  14.3750    75.8333
    Santos      31.6250   6.7083   4.7917  25.3333   3.3750    71.8333
    Herediano   17.5833   9.0000  26.2222   8.0000   7.0833    67.8889
    Monterrey   39.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   9.3750    67.8333
    Los Angeles 22.9167  17.8750   3.2917  16.7917   2.8333    63.7084
    Cruz Azul    6.6250  33.7083  10.7917   7.3333   3.3750    61.8333
    Alajuelense 11.0833  19.5000  21.7222   2.0000   2.5833    56.8889
    Toluca       6.6250  34.7083   4.7917   7.3333   3.3750    56.8333
    Pachuca      6.6250   6.7083  18.7917   7.3333  15.8750    55.3333
    D.C. United  4.9167   3.8750  20.2917  18.2917   2.8333    50.2084
    Olimpia      7.7500   8.7500  15.3333   8.2500  10.0000    50.0833
    Seattle     24.4167   3.8750   3.2917  15.2917   2.8333    49.7084
    Tijuana      6.6250  26.2083   4.7917   7.3333   3.3750    48.3333
    Montreal     2.0000   8.0000  29.3333   1.5000   4.6667    45.5000
    Queretaro    6.6250   6.7083   4.7917  23.8333   3.3750    45.3333
    Kansas City  4.9167  17.8750  10.7917   4.2917   7.3333    45.2084
    Saprissa     3.5833   3.0000  14.7222   8.0000  13.5833    42.8889
    Arabe Unido  0.0000  15.0833   0.7500   8.0000  17.0833    40.9166
    Houston     18.9167  11.3750   3.2917   4.2917   2.8333    40.7084
    Salt Lake   12.4167   3.8750   3.2917  18.2917   2.8333    40.7084
    UNAM         6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333  14.3750    39.8333
    Guadalajara 14.1250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   3.3750    36.3333
    Leon         6.6250   6.7083  12.2917   7.3333   3.3750    36.3333
    New York     4.9167   3.8750   9.2917   4.2917  13.8333    36.2084
    Vancouver    2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   6.0000  18.6667    36.0000
    Portland     4.9167   3.8750  12.2917   4.2917  10.3333    35.7084
    San Jose     4.9167  14.8750   3.2917   4.2917   2.8333    30.2084
    Dallas       4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917  13.8333    30.2084
    Mexico       6.6250   6.7083   4.7917   7.3333   3.3750    28.8333
    Comun. (GUA) 2.8333   8.0000   9.5000   6.0000   1.5000    27.8333
    Municipal    8.8333   2.0000   6.5000   6.0000   1.5000    24.8333
    Toronto      8.0000   2.0000   7.3333   1.5000   4.6667    23.5000
    Cartagines   3.5833   7.5000   5.2222   2.0000   2.5833    20.8889
    Xelaju      13.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000    20.8333
    USA          4.9167   3.8750   3.2917   4.2917   2.8333    19.2084
    Motagua      1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   9.7500   2.5000    18.0833
    H. Progreso  1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500  10.0000    18.0833
    Canada       2.0000   2.0000   6.8333   1.5000   4.6667    17.5000
    Costa Rica   3.5833   3.0000   5.2222   2.0000   2.5833    16.3889
    Heredia      2.8333   8.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000    15.8333
    Suchitepequez2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   7.5000    15.8333
    Is. Metapan  3.6667   6.5000   0.2500   4.0000   1.2500    15.6667
    Real Espana  1.7500   1.2500   7.3333   2.2500   2.5000    15.0833
    Marathon     6.2500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   2.5000    15.0833
    S. Francisco 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   8.0000   3.0833    14.4166
    Chorrillo    0.0000   2.5833   5.2500   2.0000   3.0833    12.9166
    Plaza Amador 0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   7.5833    12.9166
    Antigua (GUA)2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   4.5000    12.8333
    L.A. Firpo   0.6667   9.5000   0.2500   1.0000   1.2500    12.6667
    W Connection 4.0000   1.6667   0.6667   4.0000   1.8333    12.1667
    Real Esteli  2.0000   2.0000   4.0000   0.0000   4.0000    12.0000
    S. Miguelito 0.0000   5.5833   0.7500   2.0000   3.0833    11.4166
    Alianza      0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   7.2500    11.1667
    Honduras     1.7500   1.2500   2.8333   2.2500   2.5000    10.5833
    Guatemala    2.8333   2.0000   2.0000   1.5000   1.5000     9.8333
    FAS          3.6667   2.0000   1.7500   1.0000   1.2500     9.6667
    Central      1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   5.5000   1.8333     9.1667
    Waterhouse   1.0000   0.1667   6.6667   1.0000   0.3333     9.1667
    Panama       0.0000   2.5833   0.7500   2.0000   3.0833     8.4166
    Santa Tecla  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   4.0000   1.2500     8.1667
    PR Islanders 5.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     7.6667
    Dragon       0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   2.7500     6.6667
    Verdes       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   6.0000   0.0000     6.0000
    El Salvador  0.6667   2.0000   0.2500   1.0000   1.2500     5.1667
    Caledonia    2.5000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     4.6667
    Montego Bay  1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   2.5000   0.3333     4.6667
    CFU          1.0000   0.1667   0.6667   1.0000   0.3333     3.1667
    Nicaragua    0.5000   0.5000   1.0000   0.0000   1.0000     3.0000
    Belize       0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   1.5000   0.0000     1.5000
     
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  20. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Country:
    United States
  21. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    That answer makes it sound like this is a one-time slot distribution and not a rolling ranking system, though... Not quite what we'd hope for.
     
  22. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Country:
    United States
    But doesn't CONCACAF only need to do the ranking once a year before the start of the CCL?
     
  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Country:
    Spain
    True, but that was my point - this sounds like a one-time ruling to determine how the "new" format will look, and once that happens they don't roll the pattern to later years. That is, they say the places in the two phases will be determined by the nine-year history of the current format - and that statement can't be true next year, since there will be ten years of history at that time. There's nothing in that link that suggests they'll redistribute or even reconsider redistributing places based on new data after this first initial analysis.
     
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  24. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Country:
    United States
    Well, I am hoping they do revise the ranking every year, but you are probably right in thinking it will not be redistributed annually.
     
  25. coppercanuck

    coppercanuck New Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    Will we see the final updates for this system?
     

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