Columbus Crew to Austin Texas?

Has PSV or anybody affiliated with the relocation actually announced where they would play initially....before they're hypothetical stadium can get built? What are the realistic for MLS options? Myers Stadium? Ideal capacity but limited amenities (this is 2019s MLS), and the fields surrounded by a big running track. Royal Stadium? Excessively big, and would be more cavernous and empty than the Revs in Gillette, or DC in RFK...when you desperately need to show an impressive atmosphere for your inaugural season.

If and when they can secure desirable land and get their 20k stadium built....I can realistically see them selling out a decent amount of games initially. Not because Austin's an immense bastion of soccer fandom but just because they're the hot new pro sports team. After a while though I would think average attendance could easily dip a little and settle in the 16 to 18ks. Which is better than Columbus, currently, but my thing is I just don't see how the relatively small gains to be potentially had in Austin (not assured) are worth the trouble of moving instead of really trying to make it work in Columbus (investing that Austin money in Columbus).

 

One thought occurred to me about this that I haven't seen discussed. What would happen to the Columbus homegrown players if they move to Austin? Would they just become Austin homegrown players instead? What a slap in the face that would be to them and Columbus. If they refused to play in Austin, that would be awesome. The fact that Crognale's mom has a prominent part in the savethecrew video makes me wonder if that could be a possibility. It would probably have a lot more weight if Trapp did it, though.

 

Not really. Plus, I thought the 5000 fans reference was quite good.

 

Yes but that's per their contract with the local unions. It's a stretch to say that the city is subsidizing the Crew or any other event that used off duty public safety personnel.

 

What about the exceptions for "players of a certain stature" when determining rights to returning national teamers? You don't think that prevents Columbus from getting a Dempsey or Bradley?

 

Is the parking lot only used for Crew games? If not, could a lawyer argue that while the Crew did benefit from the improvement, the other events at the fairgrounds also benefitted? Therefore, could they claim it is more akin to a landlord making improvements to their property than a subsidy to a single tenant?

 

No, the part paid for by the state is used for other events too, notably the state fair and American Quarterhorse Congress.

 

In the case of the recent returnees, it was the players that chose their destinations and/or the teams that pursued them. So, it wasn’t the league preventing Columbus from getting Dempsey or Altidore, but the team itself that was doing so...

 

So, could team lawyers claim it was just the state paying for all the tenants and not just the Crew? That would seem to weaken the subsidy claim on the parking lot..

 

The state's claim is weak however you look at it. The state is not going to find some loophole, law, or some other silly thing to keep the team, other than a ton of free money to the club.

 

Dons halftime comments made me sick.

 

I love Alejandro's love for the Crew

 

Ale Moreno will never have to buy a drink or pay for a meal ever again in Columbus.

 

What was it?

 

I think it’s the lack of revenue that prevents them. You and I agree, I think, that Precourt is a poor owner. The inevitable conclusion from that is....

 

No question the players chose their destinations. But MLS rules are such that teams have rights to players until it turns out it's more profitable for the league to have the player in one market rather than another and suddenly the rules about rights have a new exception.

 

The fact that other organizations use the parking lot at various times doesn't change the fact that the Crew use the lot during their games and get parking revenue from state owned land that isn't part of their lease.

 

The state also receives revenue from it right? So the Crew spend millions on operations annually to raise revenue for the state. The state doesnt bring people out to the parking lots and then give the Crew a cut, the crew bring the people to the lots and share revenue accordingly.


Stop reaching people. Eminent domain, modell law, is not saving the team. Economics will save the team, and right now, it doesn't appear that PSV see's Columbus as the more viable market. Changing his outlook is the way to save the team.

 

Economics cannot save the team, because Frat Tony P. is a gerbil at economics. If he thinks that the economic situation in Austin is superior to Columbus, then there is no course of study that can save him from himself. The Modell law will have the fascinating consequence of forcing Garber Buckeroo through the 8th Dimension. What it can reveal as to the machinations and lies sustained by MLS will be fascinating to see. It will also be fascinating to see just how coherent and structured are the leagues moves as to its vision of the future...because, FoxBoro 143, there is no economic argument this side of the imp of perversity for seeking to relocate the team to where Frat Tony P. & Donny G are aiming for.
As for "changing Frat Tony P's outlook", now that is comedy. It would take thought, reflection, reason, on his part. Not a chance.

 

Stop spoiling the fun with your facts!

 

Don't rep him anymore . You know how to do that .

 

They can have their rodeo, but hands off the quarter horses.

 

16-18k is about where Columbus has been the last couple of years. Not this season--but then again the FO didn't bother to promote them either. Self fulfilling prophecy.... Attendance from MLS' own site:

2013 17 7-7-3 273,364 16,080
2014 17 9-4-4 286,976 16,881
2015 17 9-4-4 280,716 16,513
2016 17 6-3-8 291,128 17,125
2017 17 12-3-2 262,469 15,439

 

Which, again, isn’t the league’s doing, but the team’s.. While I think it is enitrely fair to say the league favored certain markets because of the market in the past, the favoritism is mostly being driven by the teams now. LA and NY are still as much the markets as the teams, but Seattle, Toronto, Portland, etc are almost entirely team driven. The Crew just haven’t been ambitious enough to overcome the “Not NY/LA” preference.