Colombian National Team General Thread

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    isnt an excepcional case.......i agree she is horrible as his ffather.......but

    but isnt EXCEPTIONAL and not all corrupts are treated in the same way and neither his sons....
     
  2. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah... I agree not everyone is treated equal, but this wasn't about race either.
     
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  3. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #3978 sidspaceman, Sep 16, 2019
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    I guess we really are going to bid for it.
     
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  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why with Peru and Ecuador?

    Also the other SA bid has 4 fking countries!!
     
  5. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Perú couldn’t even host the under 17 World Cup
     
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  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Maybe because we're geographically close, not so rich and Venezuela didn't join in?

    Also, with the possibility of the WC expanding to 40 or 48 teams, there aren't that many nations that have 12 or 16 stadiums that meet FIFA requirements.

    Also, remember that Uruguay is pretty tiny and Paraguay is very underdeveloped. I'd dare to say that both Uruguay and Paraguay have only 2 stadiums that can host WC matches, Chile maybe 4 or 5 and Argentina probably would have the most.
     
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  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Chile from what i wached in tv have worse stadiums even than us..........
     
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  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I had this idea that Cobreloa had built a somehow nice stadium back in the 1990s, but maybe is a figment of my imagination. So only 3 stadiums of more than 30k in Chile. Bonkers.

    CHL CSD Colo Colo [​IMG] Santiago Monumental David Arellano 47 017 1989 all-seater
    CHL National Stadium [​IMG] Santiago Estadio Nacional 47 000 1938 all-seater
    CHL Arturo Fernandez Vial [​IMG] Concepción Municipal de Concepción 30 448 1962 all-seater

    Paraguay has 2:

    PRY Club Cerro Porteño [​IMG] Asunción General Pablo Rojas 45 000 1991 all-seater
    PRY National Stadium [​IMG] Asunción Defensores Del Chaco 42 354 1917 all-seater
    Uruguay 2:

    URY National Stadium [​IMG] Montevideo Estadio Centenario 65 235 1930 all-seater

    URY CA Peñarol [​IMG] Montevideo Estadio Campeón del Siglo 43 000 2016 all-seater
    By comparison Argentina has 13 over that capacity.
     
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  9. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  11. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Mar 25, 2011
    Lemoore, CA
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Tell you how the mindset of people can be when it comes to the subject of race...being cried out of racisim every chance makes me shake my head...
     
  12. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Berrio again

    Yuck
     
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  13. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    sadly that wasn't a good sight last game :(
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I hope to see one of those left backs get a chance.

    Also happy to see Jhon Cordoba on Queiroz's radar.
    He is the only guy in the player pool who I think comes close to what Duvan can provide us as the physical target striker in his system.
    He also had a great chemistry with JuanFer at the youth level so I hope to see them rekindle that one day.
     
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  15. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    And he is a ********ing specimen. He lacks killer instinct but he makes up for that with sheer power and effort.
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    there isnt creative players.......if james wasnt james.,........he would be called by queiroz.......he hates those players.

    Quintero should return to his level of decemeber to get a called up again.....by this european pinto
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I am thinking if JuanFer plays well in the Semis of the Libertadores he may be called up in November. Remember Queiroz wanted to see what he could do back in March and then he got injured.
    But yes, it could be a wait until next year thing.
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he doesnt like creative players......
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #3994 HomietheClown, Sep 19, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2019
    Yes. I was the person who said this before anyone mentioned it in this Colombian forum.

    That being said he did have JuanFer on his first roster until he got injured.
    I am thinking he will give him a chance if he plays well but it is not guaranteed for sure.
    He could just focus on the three striker formations.
     
  20. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So you are not a fan of Quieroz?

    Should we be concerned with the lack of creative players or is it more because or are not producing creative players
     
  21. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    no I think we're still producing "creative" players
     
  22. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I dont dislike queiroz........but i think is stubborn just to banned talented players because "style"............berrio physic over cardona talent......is just stubborn........dont like that coaches that put their tactis ahead of players....like van gaall or pinto........if queiroz will start to think that he is more imprtant that our players wont have sucess....

    Creative players discarded: Benedetti, jarlan (having a great season), atuesta........
     
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  23. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    You're using the term "dicarded" too liberally.

    Benedetti has been on and off injured for months now. There's really only been one callup he was available for, and that was Quieroz' first. He was only just starting to click with America at that point.

    Auesta is with the sub 23. Same as Carrascal. They'll get their chance soon, I think.

    Jarlan has gotten no love, while Munoz has. You might be onto something there, but, again, you can't discard someone who's never even been close to the NT before. Besides, his stint in Argentina was a nightmare. He's starting from zero.

    The better example would be Cardona. He's not even on the list of 37 after being a core member for several years. Of course, there's always the possibility that this was a more a behavioral decision than a technical one.
     
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  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    the only creative player of that list is james...that is my concern, i think is an issue of style..........yeah we can argue those players i name dont have to be called up........but then you have berrio and his friends....so i think is more an isuue of his philosofy of not love talented players thata rent fast...
     
  25. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    While I mainly agree with your point, there's an important flipside to this.

    The players you have to deal with as a manager of a national squad are far more voluminous yet far less consistent. Especially when you consider Colombia's recent track record, where SO many of our key players have gone out injured for large periods of time.

    It's not just tactics Quieroz is trying to impart; it's a system. He doesn't want our team too reliant on certain players. And after the 2018 World Cup, for example, where we essentially abandoned aggressive offense when James was unfit, I think that's a pretty wise decision.

    It's pretty damn amazing how many guys I can see starting for the NT in midfield and attack right now. But the real crazy part is, most of these guys aren't exactly killing it for their clubs. Dudes like Yairo and Roger. All of a sudden dudes with interesting skill sets are thriving on the international stage in positions they don't even play for their clubs.

    This wouldn't have happened if we were playing just to optimize chances for our bigger named guys, like James and Falcao. ...And don't for a second think I forgot how well Pekerman was able to do just that in the past.

    Yes, Berrio is a disgraceful callup. I agree with that.

    When and if Quintero returns to form for River and doesn't get called...that's when I'll start throwing my critiques, too. Benefit of the doubt until then..
     
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