Colombia vs Paraguay (Eliminatorias )

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by HomietheClown, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    imperdonable la verdad, la gran critica mía hacia el técnico es la renuencia a jugar con Falcao solo en punta, es decir, ya mas que comprobado que NO FUNCIONA. Esta es una de las cosas que jamás lograré comprender en un DT, o sea, puedo entender las convocatorias por los procesos, puedo entender el apego a un jugador por la continuidad, puedo entender que sostenga a alguien por jerarquía o experiencia, pero jamás un mal planteamiento o que no lo corrija cuando es debido.
     
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  2. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Dudo muchísimo que podamos ganar en Perú.
     
  3. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm sure you were happy whether Colombia won or lost. If Colombia won great they qualified to the World Cup, if Colombia lost you would feel vindicated to prove a point. I don't know how you can call yourself a fan.
     
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  4. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Can't wait till we find a new keeper. Sick of Ospina playing volleyball like his sister on the pitch. Always has to slap the fuxking ball. Butterfingers Ospina really screwed us right now. This was in the bag!!!!!!
     
  5. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    why? this team is more than good enough.

    every game is different.
     
  6. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't know what happened with Ospina, Zapata had the first goal under control. Arias thought he was Falcao and forgot his role.
     
  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I cant remember feeling more angry at an outcome. Ospina. Simply awful.

    I dont want to hear a thing about Pekerman, the keeper just handed the opposition two goals. Jesus.
     
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  8. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    there's no defending him on this one sadly.

    single handedly screwed us today.
     
  9. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Been saying it for 5+ years....

    Ospina deflecting the ball will f*** is one day. Today was that day.

    His GK and judgement throughout the game was very suspect.

    Lack of playing club games on a weekly basis really showed.

    Sigh....

    3 points against Peru....no margin for error on Tuesday.

    See you all then.
     
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  10. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    F'ing Ospina. :mad: It was just a matter of time that weakness of his would cost us dearly. But twice in 5 minutes o_O
    Y Arias, como carajos no hace ese pase, estaban abiertos!!!
     
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  11. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    could have been 2-0 for Colombia and instead it was 1-2 Paraguay. Madness
     
  12. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    His judgement distributing the ball was awful all game put our back line on a lot of pressure. I still can't believe what just happened.
     
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  13. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Si hermano, es solo una duda; piensa en lo que se juega Perú a nivel histórico, lo que ya han logrado y lo que pueden lograr, animicamente vienen mejor que nosotros, pero lejos. Ahora, mas que seguro que Pekerman va a jugar a lo mismo que vimos en la primera parte hoy, lo cual nos asegura (salvo alguna genialidad de Falcao) 0 goles y apretar lo que mas se pueda en defensa y cuando ya las vainas esten mal encaminadas viene un cambio para encarrilar el camino, es decir, se han sacado puntos con base a jerarquía, que la tenemos, pero de eso no se vive siempre, o que lo diga España.
     
  14. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    its a complete mind********.
     
  15. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No había caído en cuenta, como siempre le echamos una mano a Argentina...
     
  16. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    depends on everyones form, I suppose. Im naturally optimistic, just can't stomach the thought of losing to Peru.
    we were minutes away from winning this game, literally lost because of Ospina. I don't see Peru having the finishing that Paraguay have, they are still far behind in terms of "jerarquia". Because of this I think they'll fall short.
     
  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No you guys are blinded by result !!! Even if we had won 1-0 .... were were playing like total shit !!!

    Falcao alone doesnt work he is way too fking slow !!! Players who don't play on their clubs shouldnt be on the NT. But we started 4 of them today. This team needs new ideas. Obviously I am pissed after having the game won we let them score 2 on us in 5 FKING MINUTES !!!

    When Bolillo was coach we would say well at least we played nice and just wasn't our result. Now we dont get the result but play like shit with better players !!! Pekerman is just a coward and doesnt seem like he wants the job any more. Dude is old and wants to retire

    WE should have qualified in Venezuela now are going to have to pray to that we beat Peru !!! Fking pathetic with the roster we have
     
  18. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The man of the match was Paraguay's goalkeeper. Aguilar kept the team balanced, Sanchez was a warrior in the air.

    You want Colombia to play exclusively a sub 30 and not play Aguilar and Sanchez.

    Keep in mind this is these are the toughest qualifiers in the world. I'd rather be where Colombia is at right now in the table than Argentina.
     
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  19. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    a ver, a ver, en parte comparto la desazón, pero, Venezuela en los últimos partidos viene mostrando una cara mas que positiva, es que por favor, le ha complicado la vida a los grandes. No estamos jugando horrible tampoco, no exageres pues, una táctica que no funciona es diferente y se puede corregir. Y tu odio hacia Pekerman lo he visto antes con Rueda, ¨Pinto, Alvarez, Piscis Restrepo y cualquiera que se ponga ahí, por que tenés el absurdo pensamiento que somos el Brasil del ´70. Eventualmente perderemos, eventualmente no iremos a un mundial (estamos a punto de no ir de hecho), eventualmente los ciclos se cierran y tener "tradición" futbolistica no significa que siempre vamos a estar ahí, no se si te has dado cuenta que estamos ante la mejor generación de nuestra historia, pero con amplia diferencia y aún así miranos.

    Y por favor, ni nombres al bolillo, en serio, no hay punto de comparación entre la carnavalesca dirección de Bolillo y un trabajo serio y consistente de pekerman.
     
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was over. We had them on the break twice with numeric advantages. And instead, our keeper handed them two goals. Awful.

    we didnt produce enough chances or their keeper was great, sanchez is like playing with ten when going fwd, fabra makes terrible decisions, whatever. We were in. And now we need a lot to go our way...
     
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  21. Jace

    Jace Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    At one point, Cardona, James, Teo and Falcao were all in together. I cant think of a slower front four than that. Still not getting Teo over Muriel again tonight.
     
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  22. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Ospina's inability to catch balls and slapping rebounds into bad positions has been a problem for his whole career and it really screwed us today.
     
  23. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #173 pibe10, Oct 6, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2017
    No point of analize this match because the result was everything beside the football we saw on the pitch. Instead of winning them by 4-5 goals we managed to lose them in two minutes. I really don't want to blame anyone before the end of the qualifiers because it's no use. Yes, we all know both goals was David's fault but it's the same David who saves our ass for the past 5 years. I think that the players are more to blame than David because in a 0-1 situation and 1-1, we could easily finish the game for our favor f the players weren't selfish or were more concentrate. it's beyond to blame Ospina and Pekerman. Non of them can score these easy goals instead of the attackers, way before David conceded these goals. My only thought after Arias's miss was I wonder what would happened if it was Medina who missed that shot. I'm not jealous at Arias if we will be eliminated at the end. You have to be really stupid to be in a tough situation when Falcao and James next to you and you don't pass them the ball.

    As for Pekerman, I didn't like him to go with Cardona over Chara or Muriel at the beginning even though he wasn't bad in the first half. I didn't think Aguilar was good in the first half but I lived well with his presence on the pitch. I do think he should enter Chara much more earlier in the second half but in general we couldn't really blame him for this loss even though all the press will eat him alive now and especially if we won't qualify. So sad that his last match in Quilla ended like this. He doesn't deserve this. It was pure Colombian stupidness, the last 10 minutes after Falcao's goal. Hope we will fix it in Lima, we sure can.

    And one last thing: A team who lose points in 5 home matches out of 9,in my opinion doesn't deserve to qualify. It's 12(!) points that we lost in Barranquilla. Too much for a team who wants to qualify.

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  24. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was thinking the same thing. Cuadrado was our only outlet when we wanted to rush forward with a bit of speed. And goes and tosses in Teo. Should've started with Teo if you wanted to go that route and the. Used Cuadrado as a super sub. A lot of questions
     
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  25. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Muriel hasn’t Been that great for club or country only reason he put Teo is because he doesn’t even try anymore. It’s hey let’s just send what worked in 2012. If Valencia stays healthy by the WC sure he will get the call to start next to Abel.
     

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