C'mon ride the (high speed) train, hey, ride it, woo woo!

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Michael K., Jan 28, 2010.

  1. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Of course ports which the feds also send funding too obviously are not in every state.
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the steps to fund a HSR would probably work on a similar way.

    The economic benefit from a port is more straight forward. More/bigger ports, means more competition for products being shipped out or shipped in, so people in Iowa do see a benefit, so voters may more easily swallow paying for a port in Maryland.

    Now we are not going to get many republican votes for HSR, we may get some from states or districts that represent cities that may have HSR.

    The funding will have to come from Democrats if democrats gain control back of the purse stings. So getting funding for HSR from congress people from large cities may be a easier sale.

    I just do not want them to fund white elephants on tracks.

    A San Diego-LA-San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland fast train may work economically if the ticket price is high enough (maybe around $200-$250 for the full trip) Now politically maybe Sacramento gets added, but if they start adding more stops (say Fresno) then the project becomes more and more of a money pit.

    For me the against arguments are one political (how to get people in Iowa to vote for this) and economical (I do not want this project to become a military industrial complex style tax payer fund for the construction industry).

    Other that that, I am all in favor, shit I would love to ride the train after is completed.
     
  3. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ok, more from the article above.

    It looks like a ticket price of 20 cents per mile may come with heavy subsidies.
    A more realistic price may be over 45 cents per mile. Now is this price this high to pay back debt service?

    I said before, I am ok with just spending federal money with out paying back the construction cost (would be very difficult politically).

    So my question would be, does 20 cents per mile at least cover operating expenses?


    Here is another study, but too dang long to finish reading.


    https://ec.europa.eu/transport/site...ce-quality-rail-pax-services-final-report.pdf
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If such a thing were possible, I'm sure Robert Byrd* would have figured out how.

    *See, the joke is that Byrd rather famously and rather aggressively used his power within the senate to get all kinds of goodies in West Virginia. Which is landlocked.
     
    Dr. Wankler repped this.
  5. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Ah yes....Senator Byrd. He was well known for his fiddling. :rolleyes:

    upload_2017-12-15_11-50-48.jpeg
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    You've probably seen it, but for anyone who hasn't, the list of things named after Robert Byrd is prodigious.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd

    No port, but there is the National Maritime Center for the US Coast Guard located in Kearneysville, WV.... And that's not a joke.
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So them ticket prices will need to go up again in the California High Speed choo-choo

    http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-cost-overrun-20180116-story.html
     
  8. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    dapip repped this.
  11. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Hey....estimated 6,000,000,000+ smackers for a 40 mile 15 min ride sounds like a winner. Same as original estimate for the 120 mi Ca Choo Choo. What are the odds the estimate is close? :rolleyes:
     
  12. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Take it from the money Mexico is paying us for the wall.
     
  13. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    How much is nada dinero en ingles? :unsure:
     
  14. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    The 4014 Big Boy rebuild should be finished by early/mid '19. I'm booking my ride ASAP. :thumbsup:

    [​IMG]
     
  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No tienes lana guey?
     
  16. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Que?? I googled for the translation.....
    "Guey you not have wool?"

    That made me feel a bit sheepish! :confused:
     
  17. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Guey is the way many semi-literate Mexican-Americans spell buey.

    Lana/wool is slang for money.
     
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I never took you for one of the sheeple... but lana means bucks in some Latinamerican countries... Hopefully not a horny issue..
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Half right... Guey means dude, dude...
     
  20. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Just because it's been bastardized from the original buey so often. Same as, in English, "literally" has been misused so often that it literally can mean figuratively.
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  22. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    American Brummie repped this.
  23. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.
     
    dapip and roby repped this.
  24. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Here's a pic of what it would look like. I guess it would pay for it's self if you could also use it to transport natural and hi-octane gas at the same time. :thumbsup:

    [​IMG]
     
    ceezmad repped this.
  25. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The Turnpike’s speed limit is 70 mph, so obviously everyone drives 80. So yeah, it’s more or less 3 hours.

    Unless you have kids and they decide they have to pee 10 miles after the last service station and there’s 30 to the next one. Never happens to us.
     
    raza_rebel, American Brummie and roby repped this.

Share This Page