PBS was actually designed as a duel use facility. The brown family makes that impossible unless they own the team though. http://www.wcpo.com/sports/fc-cinci...um-officially-out-as-a-home-for-fc-cincinnati The prosecutor's office told the county 3 months ago that the contract with the bengals made it impossible for fc cincy to operate there. The mls seems to have gotten through though. They are moving on to "plan b" which should have been plan a... the city will vote on funding November 27th the county commissioners shortly after the conclusion of the city vote.
Any thoughts on whether or not the conflicts involving Columbus-Austin will hurt the Cincy expansion bid.
Many in Columbus will try to connect them to make waves....as they should to try and keep their team....but they have little in common. Lamar was given permission to build the stadium on the state fairgrounds, which sat idle for most of the year, and made a few infrastructure improvements....but not much. Since the stadium is owned, no tax payer money was used, and little infrastructure was involved....Precourt doesn't have any real obligations, which is a big aprt of why this is happening. In other bids, if significant tax funds, land deals are involved, then the tenant will have to sign a guarantee on how long the team stays, with I am certain steep penalties in place if they try and move earlier, which would make it virtually unfeasible. There will be screams of it can happen to you from people in Columbus and from opponents in Cincy, but the situations aren't comparable.
Cincinnati councilman Sittenfeld will oppose FC Cincinnati stadium plan; where do others stand? https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinn...ati-councilman-sittenfeld-will-oppose-fc.html
Seelbach and sittenfeld are no's Simpson probably a no Young probably a no Mann a yes Flynn a yes Murray a yes Smithermen a yes It will all come down to... Charlie winburn who is just returning from medical problems. He should lean to yes he usually votes with Murray and smithermen, so we will have to see.
I don't think Cincy has anything to do with Columbus. I think cincy doing well is an excuse for precourt not a reason. I also don't think Columbus hurts or helps our bid. There's about 6-7 million (3-4 mil in south west Ohio, 1 mil in south/southwest Indiana, 1-2 mil in central/northern Kentucky) people who live within a 100 miles of cincy, that's plenty of people to support a franchise on its own
Not sure how this would affect your counts, but Columbus is about 100 miles from Cincinnati. 50 miles might be a better radius as 100 takes in not only Columbus, but Indianapolis, Louisville and Lexington. It just doesn't seem that there would be a large fan base in these towns. Dayton would be interesting how it splits... They are under 50 miles from Cincinnati and 60 from Columbus. There is quite a link between Dayton and Cincinnati soccer communities. Anyhow, at the youth level, there is a lot of mixing in Middletown, Fairfield, Lebanon (Warren County), Beaver Creek, and Xenia.
I actually did not include Columbus metro in the count. Agreed on Dayton soccer community, I live right on the boarder of the greater Dayton and Cincinnati area.
There's no split. Dayton, geographically, is sort of an offshoot of Cincinnati. Most of the early settlement of Ohio took place in the southwest because the Miami River was navigable from Cincinnati to Dayton and because glacial action flattened the land from Cincinnati north to Greenville into some of the best pure farmland on the planet. From the outset of post-Revolutionary War settlement, Dayton has been tied into Cincinnati primarily because of the Miami River which became a conduit for farm products destined for New Orleans or Pittsburgh. The cultural ties continue to this day.
BREAKING: Cincinnati City Council vote to approve stadium deal, soccer stadium finance plan passes 5-2 (one abstaining) . Hamilton county to give their seal of approval on Wednesday. FC Cincinnati officially have their soccer specific stadium
That doesn't quite look like a done deal to me. Still $20-25 million short on funds and they still don't have a site. A step forward, but the author basically called the vote a sham to get something on paper for MLS.
The author has done nothing but trash Fc cincy for 2 years running. He's a hard core anti cranley writer. He's angry over yevette Simpson losing and he's a noted ass. The team has purchased the right to buy the property pending the mls vote (that's a site) and the 20 million would be assuming the infrastructure costs the highest of the estimated ammount. That being said, the team isn't building in Oakley. They get the bid mls told berding the team came make nippert their temporary home till they build the stadium which, imo, will be in the west end downtown. It will cost far less infrastructure money and the garages are already there. They just didn't have time to negotiate with all 40 property owners before the dead line. This is a TL: DR of what berding said on the 700 wlw this morning.
I knew it was J. Williams before even clicking the link. Williams has been against this from day one, spinning it every way to get opinion against it. Objectively FC Cincinnati has asked what many other companies have asked in regards to infrastructure and among stadium deals it is one of the best presented. Right now everything seems good to go for final Wednesday vote. I fully expect what ever outcome in regards to MLS and stadiums he will trash FCC and make it seem terrible for Cincinnati.
I really couldn't believe he wrote that article attacking Carl Lindner III and their family. He absolutely over played his hand with that one. I've often wondered if CL JR and CL III hadn't bought the Reds and anchored down two F-500's in the city how the city would have fared through the recession and beyond. Dude fronted no interest loan money for neighborhood redevelopment in Clifton and over the Rhine. I don't know if there has ever been a family that has plugged holes in the damn time after time quite like the Lindners have and we aren't even talking the true philanthropy of the Fam. That article was way out of line. Made my blood boil.
the league has revealed four finalists for the first two expansion spots, which will be announced before the end of the year: Cincinnati Detroit Nashville Sacramento The finalists will make presentations to the league's Expansion Committee and Commissioner Don Garber on Dec. 6, and the MLS Board of Governors meeting on Dec. 14 will include additional discussions on expansion with ownership representatives from every team.
Final votes for city council and county commissioners occurred today. Financing deal has passed both. Unanimous by the county, 5-3 vote by the city.
Wow!!! Berding on @700wlw says club will be announcing they've surpassed 15k season tickets soon! Hope to have 17k before it's done with goal of avg attendance at 25k. That's why we should get the bid! #MLS2CINCY— Cincy Soccer Talk (@cincysoccertalk) November 29, 2017 Fc cincy hits 15 K season ticket goal, expects 17 season ticket holders by the time it's all said and done. Well done
Be ideal, but good issue to have when not enough seats is the problem. Might be able to sell tickets easier to USOC or friendlies if regular matches are at such a premium.
@Traumer , do you ever visit the team's reddit page? up to about 3200 subscribers some pretty decent team stuff on there.