News: Chargers Move to LA, crash on Galaxy's couch.

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  1. blacktide

    blacktide Member

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    #676 blacktide, Oct 5, 2017
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    https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/10/4/16423520/los-angeles-chargers-owners-post-fan-experiment

    "If a franchise proves profitable without having a sizable fan base, it’d represent a way for owners to cash in without dealing with the endearingly human problems that fans frequently cause."

    Interesting article that posits that the Chargers can still be successful even without a significant fan base of which to speak. Since the NFL makes its money on TV and ticket licenses and luxury boxes from high rollers, the team can be profitable without its own significant fan base. I mean, the other teams need somebody to play and put on TV. Spanos probably doesn't care that what color jersey the ticket buyer wears, as long as the money is green.

    Not sure that I think it will work, but Spanos and the NFL appear hellbent on finding out if it will.
     
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  2. nlsanand

    nlsanand Member+

    May 31, 2007
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    A lot of those are Canadians......Despite that awful overpriced Skydome experiment, the Bills are the best supported team in Toronto.
     
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  3. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    It's what happened with the Marlins a bit back. Huizenga (I think...spelling off I'm sure) made a tidy profit and barely invested in the team for a couple of years, or got many fans.
     
  4. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
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    Not MLS related... but count me as a person that things the Bills would be better off with a move to Toronto!
     
  5. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Funny, because you can count me as a person that thinks Beckham would be better off placing an MLS franchise in Buffalo.
     
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  6. KCbus

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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    I’m still trying to figure why, as an MLS fan, I’m supposed to care about any of this.
     
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  7. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish I could rep this about 1000 times.
     
  8. Burr

    Burr Member+

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    Argentina
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    Tampa, FL
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know what? You're right.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    ?????

    It means more money for the Gals, so it had an impact on the financial pecking order within the league. Further, the PR of the Gals ha I gotta more LA supporters than an NFL team is interesting.
     
  10. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Maybe the Chargers should see what rent would be at LAFC's smaller place. 22,000 sounds possible for them eight times a year. Probably.
     
  11. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
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    Because it’s one of the biggest signs of weakness in the 600 lb gorilla called the NFL. And weaknesses from the top dog league in the US are advantageous to MLS and all the lesser leagues. That this weakness is being laid bare in an MLS stadium is just irony.
     
  12. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Chargers will be fine. It may take new ownership first, but the ship will get turned around.

    Probably. The league overall is struggling with some things and handling them badly. If that continues, the sport could decline like boxing did.
     
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  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Weakness being the notion that one team in LA is insufficient? MLS has the same disease.
     
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    No more than sufficient.
     
  15. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

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    he won rings, then burned it down
     
  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I don't know if they'll ever be fine in Los Angeles. I just don't know what they'd have to do to get fans here... at this point the rams are in the "should be ok in the long term" situation while the chargers are in the "why the hell are you here" situation.
     
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  17. VBCity72

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    Aug 17, 2014
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    Bleacher Report has a cartoon series called Gridiron Heights that pokes fun at things that happen in the NFL every week. After the Chargers played the Eagles Phillip Rivers hires PI Jay Cutler to find the Los Angles football fans. You get a look at the field and the end zone says LA Galaxy but there's a line through Galaxy and Chargers is crudely written in spray paint about it.
     
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  18. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
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    For those who want greater specificity than 'cartoon series', this is the specific video.
     
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  19. canammj

    canammj Member+

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    ==========
    NFL has a different problem. You are building a 1 billion dollar stadium, the league image is such that both teams need to sell out every seat every game in a very large stadium.

    MLS is different as we have 2 stadiums of reasonable size 27 & 20 AND 2 soccer teams in a city will generally start to create a rivalry over time. Fans will travel to each others stadium, as well as fans from out of the area.

    When I see the Charges almost being outdrawn by fans of the visiting team, that's an LA thing, it happens with our other sports teams at times because so maybe people are from somewhere else living now in So Cal.

    Separate question. Does anyone know how NFL fans travel? We make big efforts to point out the great distance our soccer fans travel in the US. Example. I went to MNUFC last home game of the year and there were approx 300 Sporting KC fans that had come up. I thought that was impressive. Or is the NFL so established, that it simply has fans for every team in all cities?
     
  20. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

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    And won 2 rings
     
  21. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People move. Therefore, fans may not be traveling so much as relocating. We are RSL fans even though it's been a decade since we lived there and had season tickets. We now live in Maryland. We travel to Columbus, DC and Philly when RSL comes because they are reasonable weekend trips for us with other things to do.
     
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  22. don gagliardi

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  23. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

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  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Because it's only a matter of time before MLS is bigger than NFL, assuming that time is infinite.
     
  25. The Franchise

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    And current trends continue indefinitely.
     

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