Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

yeah people always say that Germany doesn't have a center for diversification of talents like Paris or London. And although Berlin could be it, in the end the potential really is totally wasted. But yeah lots of interesting talents at that club whether German or German duals. The 99-00 were U19 German champs for 1st time ever 2 seasons ago and it amounted to nothing, since no integration.

1st thing Klinsmann did was bench all young German players at the club as if they were the issue and play older players. Now Hertha are linked with Stuttgart's Ascacíbar. So what Arne Maier will lose his relevance just like that?

on another note, the German-Dane Vestergaard is linked to move back to Germany. Am I the only one bored with all these players who leave Germany only to flop and then return? It doesn't reflect well on the league when someone returns.

 

So they want to invest 200m EUR in players like Xhaka (bad discipline), Gotze (fitness issues), Draxler (lol) or Wanyama (crap and never plays)? Weigl won't happen.

I don't necessarily mind clubs spending money on their squads if they actually improve them, but that investment needs to be spent intelligently. Too many BL clubs are dumb in their recruitment.

 

man I feel bad for Gotze, was pretty good at Dortmund but once he went to Bayern and he was diagnosed with myopathy he was never the same again. Still wonder would Bayern have won the CL in 2013 if Gotze was fit???? Big question.

really felt like he had the potential to be world class too. Now we only see that potential in flashes here and there.

will always have a soft spot for him and Schurrle regardless of club form as we won the WC due to them both.

still crazy to think he's only 27 years old too......

 

one can't deny his quality.

Borussia Dortmund verpflichtet Erling Haaland. #Haaland2024 pic.twitter.com/NOHt7l7bgL

— Borussia Dortmund (@BVB) December 29, 2019

will be curious to see how he does in Germany. And finally enough with the whole Gotze/Brandt/Reus playing CF none of them are CFs. Dortmund's only CF has been Paco.

 

According to kicker, the whole costs of this transfer (salary, agent fee, tranfer fee,...) are round about €100m. #Haaland #bvb https://t.co/94HaG4VkRC

— German Football Daily (@GERFootDaily) December 29, 2019

if he pans out, how much will Dortmund sell him in the future? lol. $150-200M?

 

how much money has RB Leipzig spent on players that didn't amount to anything?

Marcelo Saracchi's loan move to Galatasaray will be made official soon. The Turkish champions will pay the entirety of his wages and the two clubs were unable to agree on a purchase option. [RBLive] #RBLeipzig

— Red Bull Hub (@RedBullHub) December 30, 2019

Matheus Cunha (20) will be allowed to leave RB Leipzig this January if he wants to. Brighton & Hove Albion and Real Betis are interested in his signature. [RBLive] #RBLeipzig

— Red Bull Hub (@RedBullHub) December 30, 2019

The Brit Lookman is another one, they spent like $20M+ for him to barely play lol. The Brazilian Candido was openly criticized by Nagelsmann too. Makes one wonder if 3/3 South Americans at the club are headed out?

That Frenchie Augustin with attitude problems who was never good is bombing on his loan to Monaco. Bruma was never a good player and they got him for like $13M and was recently linked to the trash league MLS, lol.

 

Surprised we actually got to sign him.

I believe BVB have a genuinely good squad that can compete for the Meisterschalle and get past PSG, but all that potential is wasted in the incapable hands of Favre.

 

I think due to BVB willing to pay the price and due to a huge lack of competition uptop. Paco is better sub that starter too.

compare that to RB Leipzig for example between Werner, Poulsen, Schick and that's more competition.

but yeah Favre is a clown, not going to win shit with him on board.

 

looks like Toprak, Sahin and Lang (on loan from Gladbach) aren't doing well at Bremen at all.
http://www.fussballtransfers.com/nachricht/werder-trio-muss-sich-neu-beweisen_112749

LOL, who here didn't see that Toprak or Sahin weren't terrible players?

 

By Tuchel's bizarre standards, Toprak is a World class CB, after all he pretty much forced BVB to waste money on him.

 

Tuchel is very weird with player preferences. Like he seems to like mediocre players.

 

looks like the Brit Baker on loan to Fortuna is unprofessional and pissed Funkel off and seems likely headed out. He also bitched a lot during the season about his lack of game time....
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...wis-baker-vor-dem-rauswurf-67070444.bild.html

 

RB Leipzig left-back, Luan Cândido (18), will join Red Bull Bragantino on an 18-month loan. The deal will be official in the coming hours. [@brunoandrd] #RBBragantino #RBLeipzig

— Red Bull Hub (@RedBullHub) January 3, 2020

lol and RB Leipzig sends him on loan to RB Brazil. Candido is perfect proof that RB Leipzig does NOT integrate players with 0 pro experience. He moved this Summer with no pro experience and now loaned out to get pro experience. Should just have stayed in Brazil.....

it really is why all of those things that one reads that RB Leipzig is a good clubs for young players.................only if they already have pro experience.

 

00-Paulinho who Bayer payed like $20M for is a loan candidate.

I'm not seeing much integration in Germany these days even for foreign players and even ones who cost money. At this point you got like 4+ young South Americans who haven't done much all season.

 

lol

Newcastle United are set to make an attempt to sign Ademola Lookman (22) on loan with an option to buy in the summer. [Sky Germany] #RBLeipzig

— Red Bull Hub (@RedBullHub) January 7, 2020

at this point the only really successful Brit in Germany is Sancho. And they payed $20+M for him and even drifted towards unprofessional behavior in order to land him at the club. Seriously Lookman, Bruma and so many others are just mediocre players.

 

that's huge.

Harry Kane will have to undergo surgery and will be unavailable for both matches against Leipzig. #RBHub https://t.co/tCS2w1UflV

— Old Account (@_JackBrace1) January 9, 2020

 

said it from day 1, that Brit Oxford sucks now he's being linked to loan to VVV and option to purchase, lol, what a waste of money.

 

said it from day 1, that Brit Oxford sucks now he's being linked to loan to VVV and option to purchase, lol, what a waste of money.

 

Spurs trying to get Piatek

 

the fact that Gladbach really wanted him, that Augsburg payed $2M (when the club wanted like $7M) really shows how much of a joke 1BL clubs really are. Oxford always always sucked plain and simple and not every Brit is the next Sancho.

Augsburg: Venlo should be interested in the English
Oxford in the cul-de-sac: loan as a way out

In summer FC Augsburg committed the previously loaned Reece Oxford for two million euros. Half a year later, the Englishman is at a dead end at the FCA. Now a loan to the Netherlands could be a way out.

Oxford once caused a sensation in England when he made an impressive debut for West Ham United in the Premier League at the age of 16. Oxford is now 21, but has not caused a sensation for a long time. Neither West Ham nor Borussia Mönchengladbach was able to prevail, and he also stood out as a loan player in Augsburg in the previous second half, especially due to sloppy defensive behavior.

Nevertheless, the FCA subsequently bought the defensive player and equipped him with a contract until 2023. Those responsible are convinced of Oxford's potential and hope for a development. So far, however, it has not got going. Because he had no use for him in central defense, coach Martin Schmidt Oxford retrained for the six at the beginning of the season.

There, the Englishman first showed a few passable appearances, until the end of October he was substituted five times and was in the starting eleven twice. In the sixth substitution on November 3, Oxford made a fatal mistake: In the final phase, he played a catastrophic back pass into the run of Amine Harit, who scored 3-2 for Schalke. Oxford hasn't played a minute at the FCA since that mistake.

Venlo is said to be interested
The defensive player officially missed the Augsburg training camp on Malta due to an infection. But it could be that he will not train with his FCA colleagues in the coming months. According to media reports from England and the Netherlands, VVV Venlo should be interested in a loan. The club currently ranks 16th in the Dutch Eredivisie and has 44 goals against the worst defense in the league. In Augsburg, Oxford's chances of being used in the second half of the season are slim, both in central defense and in midfield. Schmidt wants to downsize the squad and hand over reservists. A loan could be a way out of the dead end for Oxford.
https://www.kicker.de/767086/artikel/oxford_in_der_sackgasse_leihe_als_ausweg#twfeed

was a disaster in every game and Eberl was interested in resigning him too. Really he bombed but the club still saw potential and then he bombed again. LOL, was a disaster in every game I saw him play. These clubs can't judge talents well and a player like him gets more opportunities in 1BL than a lot of Germans do is a joke.

other reports say that there is even a buying clause in, lol.

 

fact is almost all 1BL clubs are way way too big overstuffed.

Freiburg winger Jeong Woo-yeong, who's currently with Korea U-23, could potentially move on loan this month or more likely this summer. Whilst he expected the competition for playing time would be fierce, he didn't expect to play 0 minutes in the Bundesliga after 5 months.

— Steve Han • 한만성 (@realstevescores) January 13, 2020

these days, every club is pilling and pilling players on top of each other. Even a player which they payed some millions for has no chances.

 

barely going well for almost all EPL loans to Germany and even Brit players.

-seems all but confirmed that the Brit Baker was unprofessional and he's done at Fortuna. Not even teammates are backing him up.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...dre-hoffmann-auf-die-palme-67343850.bild.html

-Lookman seemed desperate to escape RB Leipzig but the club blocked him because the club is unlikely to buy in transfer market all their interest seems to be for fullback and that's it. Most clubs prefer buying in Summer as their are more openings and easier to integrate. They also blocked that loanee Ampadu from retracting because they need him as back up player, LOL. Honestly instead of signing mediocre players like Lookman and loaning in Brit players every single season. The club should use those extra spots to integrate from U19.....

-the loanee from Liverpool to Mainz, Awoniyi is also being axed.

can't say I'm not happy seeing loanees from other leagues bomb, barely play. Clubs should focus on their own players not dev for other leagues especially competitors like EPL, La Liga, Serie A etc. I don't even like that Bayern is wasting time with Perisic (terrible player) and Countinho who most reports say won't be permanent.

 

really does seem like a world class prospect. On his 1BL debut.

 

His post-match interview...lol

“How do I look....There’s your answer”

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