Brazilian Asian vs American Asian

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by SoccerScout, Oct 17, 2002.

  1. SoccerScout

    SoccerScout Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Two rare instances in American and Brazilian soccer. Two players with Asian roots playing for the MLS and Brazilian league. They are Mark Chung and Sandro Hiroshi.

    Ive seen both play and interestingly enough they both seem to be at a similiar skill level and are two good players. Sandro was with Sao Paulo for a few years and now is with Flamengo. From the names I imagine Hiroshi is of Japanese descent (but Brazilian born) while Chung is of Chinese. Hisoshi seems much younger though. Mark is listed as DOB 1970, while Sandro 1979.

    Brazilian Sandro Hiroshi:
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    American Mark Chung:
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  2. ruudboy

    ruudboy New Member

    Jul 6, 2000
    Sunnyvale
    Chung is a half breed.
     
  3. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    My father's name is Hiroshi. He's not a very good soccer player though.



    That is all.





    Actually, what I meant to say was that I'm surprised there aren't more ethnic Japanese playing in Brazil or Peru with the number of immigrants that went there.
     
  4. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Tsjeu La-Ling.

    Now, that's a name you folks should know about.

    Apart from Dutch football followers, I wonder if anyone knows of him ?
     
  5. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002


    Isn't that the Panda bear from the San Diego Zoo?
     
  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    There have been plenty of Japanese players in Peru and Brazil but none good enough for the national team.

    Actually Bolivia has had two on it's national team. TAkeo and Jiguchi though they weren't regular starters.
     
  7. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    In Peru we have had Jose Pereda who played for Boca Juniors he is half japanese and have played some matches for the NT.

    Right now there is a young central defender at Alianza Lima named Ernesto Arakaki of japanese descent who has already made his debut for the peruvian NT and will maybe play more NT matches in the future I guess.
     
  8. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    we also had david soria
    who is from japanese decent he played in some qualifying games
     
  9. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Talent level, friends. But it shouldn't be too surprising to see Asian players in Brazil - especially Japanese players. The countries are "close" when it comes to football... and they adopt the other's culture in some instances.
     
  10. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I know of the following East Asians who had been capped by non-AFC teams.

    "Full" = senior national team

    Gordon Chin : Canada Youth National Team Chinese Kyle Yamada: Canada U-18 Japanese
    Nathan Li: Canada U-16 ???
    William Sunsing: Costa Rico Full, Under-23 Half-Chinese
    Ricky Cheng Costa Rico Under-16 Chinese
    Michael Chopra England Under-16 Indian
    Vikash Dhorasoo France Full
    Giovanni Van Bronckhorst Holland Full Indonesian
    Pierre Issa South Africa Full Lebanese
    Stefan Ishizaki* Sweden Under-20 Japanese
    Arash Bajat * Sweden Under-18 Iranian
    Nozomu Yamauchi USA Under-16 Japanese
    David Chun USA Under-16 ???
    Ryan Futagaki USA Under-20, Under-23 Japanese
    Alex Yi USA Under-17, Under-20 Korean
    Alecko Eskandarian USA Under-20, Under-17 Iranian
    Mark Chung USA Full Chinese
    Imad Baba USA U-23, U-20, U-17 Palestinian
    Steve Shak USA U-23 Chinese
    Chris Brown USA U-23, U-20 Half-Iranian
    John Maessner USA Full Half-Japanese
    Tom Mahan Ramasut Wales U-21, U-16 Half-Thai
    Hai Ngoc Tran Norway U-??? Vietnamese
     
  11. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh, for all you MLS fans, has everyone forgotten, a player named Tamashiro for Miami?

    Chung was born in Toronto, but moved stateside when he was young, IIRC. But he's Jamaican Chinese.

    Oh, La-Ling played for the great Ajax teams of the 60s or was it 70s?
     
  12. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nick Rimando is supposed to be Filipino-Hispanic mix.

    Jerry Tamashiro!!! yes, I remember him.


    Sandro Hiroshi, he is not one of the players who lied about his age when he played for Brazil youth national team a few years ago???? I recalled one of the gulity party is named "Hiroshi". May be that skipshady's dad.
     
  13. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    La Ling played for Ajax during the mid to late seventies, but after the 'great' Ajax team ofthe early 70's had dissipated. Therefore, partly because of that, he was never widely known outside of the NL.

    But he is still regarded as one of the best (wingers) ever to have worn the Ajax no. 7 shirt.
     
  14. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    That's the one. And yes, my father, a Japanese national in his late 50s, forged a passport so he could pass as a Brazilian teenager.

    Also on a personal note, I played a pick up game with Noz Yamauchi. Very quick and skilled with the ball but probably too small to play big time - I wonder if/where he's playing now.
     
  15. schmuckatelli

    schmuckatelli New Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    For what it's worth, I believe Maessner is retired from playing soccer. Last I heard, he was working on his coaching licenses.
     
  16. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have the Cruyff book. It talked about him. That's how I know.
     
  17. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What about Michael Mols???

    Is he part-Asian???
     
  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I read somewhere, it might have been on the World Baseball Federation (or something) website, that most of the Japanese immigrants in Brazil play baseball, and in fact, nearly every player registered in the Brazilian baseball federation (or whatever) is Japanese or of Japanese descent.
     
  19. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Interesting. Did not know that.

    I'm guessing the Brazilian equivalent of Jim Rome is of Japanese descent.
     
  20. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I did recall several Japanese from brazil did play for the Japanese NT in the sixties. I am not too familiar with the topics.
     
  21. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't there a LLWS team from Brazil? Sao Paolo Japnaese?
     
  22. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, that is why Brazil's national baseball team is made of up of Japanese people.
     
  23. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    tamashiro never made it to the peruvian national team
     

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