BigSoccer's Players of the Season: 1881-82

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  1. elegos7

    elegos7 Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Here are the main matches of the 1881-82 season in chronological order.

    Any details about missing goalscorers and best players from match reports would be appreciated.

    Queen's Park-Darwen 6-0, 24.9.1881, Glasgow, Hampden Park
    goals: Anderson, Brock (2), Ker, Fraser, Angus
    best players: ?
    The Darwen side contained some new players who had not had much chance to play together and Queen’s Park won the game with ease.

    Scottish Cup 2nd round, Vale of Leven-Dumbarton 0-2, 1.10.1881, Alexandria
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Vale of Leven- Queen's Park 1-2, 29.10.1881, Alexandria
    goals: ? / Anderson, Brock
    best players: ?

    Blackburn Rovers-Rangers 2-2, 31.10.1881, Blackburn
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    FA Cup 1st round, Old Etonians-Clapham Rovers 2-2, 5.11.1881, The Oval
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Rangers-Queen's Park 1-2, 5.11.1881, Glasgow, Kinning Park
    goals: Corbett / scrimmage, Allan
    best players: ?

    FA Cup 1st round replay, Old Etonians-Clapham Rovers 1-0, 19.11.1881, The Oval
    goals: ? (own goal)
    best players: ?

    FA Cup 3rd round, Old Carthusians-Royal Engineers 0-2, 20.12.1881, The Oval ?
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Darwen-Queen's Park 1-2, 24.12.1881, Darwen, Attendance: 5,000
    goals: Bury / reports varied considerably as to who scored the two Queen’s Park goals
    best players: ?
    The Darwen side was much stronger than the one that played at Hampden and a slightly under-strength Queen’s Park eleven had a tough battle on a hard, slippery pitch.

    Blackburn Rovers-Queen's Park 2-2, 26.12.1881, Blackburn, Attendance: 15,000
    goals: 1-0 Douglas, 1-1 Allan, 2-1 Hargreaves, 2-2 Anderson or Kay
    best players: ?

    Blackburn Rovers- Dumbarton 5-1, 31.12.1881, Blackburn
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Queen's Park-Old Carthusians 8-0, 2.1.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 3,000
    goals: Kay (3), Harrower (3), Anderson, Ker
    best players: ?
    Despite heavy rain and a strong wind, upwards of 3,000 spectators were in attendance. Old Carthusians had been doing well in England and had been expected to put up stubborn resistance but, despite a relatively good start, eventually slumped to an 8-0 defeat.

    Vale of Leven-Old Carthusians 2-1, 3.1.1882, Alexandria
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Quarter-final, Dumbarton-Rangers 2-1, 28.1.1882, Dumbarton
    goals: ?
    best players: ?
    Rangers protested that the match hadn't been played for 90 minutes. The protested was upheld and a replay was ordered.

    FA Cup 4th round, Blackburn Rovers-Darwen 5-0, 30.1.1882, Blackburn
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Quarter-final replay, Dumbarton-Rangers 5-1, 4.2.1882, Dumbarton
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Sheffield-Glasgow 3-1, 11.2.1882, Bramall Lane, Attendance: 8,000
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    IRL-ENG 0-13, 18.2.1882, Belfast, Bloomfield Park, Attendance: 2,500
    goals: Vaughton 5, A. Brown 4, J. Brown 2, H. Cursham, Bambridge
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Semi-final, Old Etonians-Marlow 5-0, 4.3.1882, The Oval
    goals: Goodhart (3), Dunn, Macaulay
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Semi-final, Blackburn Rovers-The Wednesday 0-0, 6.3.1882, The Oval ?
    best players: ?

    SCO-ENG 5-1, 11.3.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 10,000
    http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0015Sco1882.html

    goals: 1-0 Harrower (15), 1-1 Vaughton (35), 2-1 Ker (43), 3-1 McPherson (46), 4-1 Ker (70), 5-1 Kay (85)
    best players: ?

    WAL-ENG 5-3, 13.3.1882, Wrexham, Acton Park, Attendance: 5,000
    http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0016Wal1882.html
    Note: Charlie Bambridge injured after 3 minutes. England played with 10 men.
    goals: 0-1 Mosforth 30', 0-2 Parry 35', 1-2 Owen 43, 1-3 Cursham 48', 2-3 Morgan, 3-3 Jones OG 68, 4-3 Owen 87, 5-3 Vaughan 89.

    FA Cup Semi-final replay, Blackburn Rovers-The Wednesday 5-1, 15.3.1882, The Oval ?
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Final, Queen's Park-Dumbarton 2-2, 18.3.1882, Glasgow, Cathkin Park, Attendance: 12,000
    goals: 1-0 Harrower 1, 2-0 Harrower 30, 2-1 Brown, 2-2 Meikleham
    best players: ?

    SCO-WAL 5-0, 25.3.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 5,000
    Goals: 1-0 Kay (25), 2-0 Ker (70), 3-0 Fraser (72), 4-0 Fraser (80), 5-0 McAulay (88)
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Final, Old Etonians-Blackburn Rovers 1-0, 25.3.1882, The Oval, Attendance: 6,000
    goals: Anderson
    best players: ?

    Old Carthusians- Old Etonians 1-0, 1.4.1882, The Oval
    goals: Parry
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Final replay, Queen's Park-Dumbarton 4-1, 1.4.1882, Glasgow, Cathkin Park, Attendance: 15,000
    goals: 1-0 Richmond 1, 1-1 Kennedy, 2-1 Ker, 3-1 Harrower, 4-1 Fraser or Ker
    best players: ?

    Charity Cup 1st round, Queen's Park-Vale of Leven 2-2, 15.4.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 5,000
    goals: 0-1 Brown, 1-1 Anderson, 2-1 Ker, 2-2 McFarlane
    best players: ?

    Blackburn Rovers-Vale of Leven 0-2, 16.4.1882, Blackburn
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Rangers-Blackburn Rovers 2-2, 22.4.1882, Glasgow
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Charity Cup 1st round replay, Queen's Park-Vale of Leven 0-2, 6.5.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 10,000
    goals: Friel, McCrae
    best players: ?
    Vale of Leven had been practising hard since the first game but apparently Queen’s Park had not. Vale were the better side throughout and earned a well-deserved 2-0 victory.

    Charity Cup final, Dumbarton-Vale of Leven 2-2, ?.1882, Glasgow, ?
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Charity Cup final replay, Dumbarton-Vale of Leven 0-1, ?.1882, Glasgow, ?
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    The London vs Sheffield matches probably continued this season. Further details about them would be welcome.
     
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  2. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member+

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Additions in red:


    Queen's Park-Darwen 6-0, 24.9.1881, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance 1,500
    goals: Anderson, Brock (2), Ker, Fraser, Angus
    best players: Anderson, Fraser, Ker, Brock, Angus, Allan / Broughton (gk)
    The Darwen side contained some new players who had not had much chance to play together and Queen’s Park won the game with ease.

    Scottish Cup 2nd round, Vale of Leven-Dumbarton 0-2, 1.10.1881, Alexandria
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Vale of Leven- Queen's Park 1-2, 29.10.1881, Alexandria
    goals: ? / Anderson, Brock
    best players: ?

    Blackburn Rovers-Rangers 2-2, 31.10.1881, Blackburn, Attendance 5,000
    goals: Avery, scrimmage / Inglis, Pringle
    best players: ?

    FA Cup 1st round, Old Etonians-Clapham Rovers 2-2, 5.11.1881, The Oval
    goals: Goodhart, Macaulay / Paine, Taylor
    best players: ?

    FA Cup 1st round, Aston Villa 4, Nottingham Forest 1, 5.11.1881
    Goals: Whateley 2, Brown 2 / Widdowson
    Best Players:


    Rangers-Queen's Park 1-2, 5.11.1881, Glasgow, Kinning Park
    goals: Corbett / scrimmage, Allan
    best players: Inglis, Corbett, McFarlane / Watson, Gow

    FA Cup 1st round replay, Old Etonians-Clapham Rovers 1-0, 19.11.1881, The Oval
    goals: ? own goal
    best players: Ogilvie (gk)

    FA Cup 2nd round Blackburn Rovers 6 Bolton Wanderers 2, 9.11.1881
    Goals: Avery, McIntyre 2, Brown 2, Sharples / Atherton, Struthers
    Best Players:


    FA Cup 3rd round, Old Carthusians-Royal Engineers 0-2, 20.22.12.1881, The Oval ? Yes
    goals: Williams,Ruck
    best players: ?

    Darwen-Queen's Park 1-2, 24.12.1881, Darwen, Attendance: 5,000
    goals: Bury / reports varied considerably as to who scored the two Queen’s Park goals – the second was an own goal.
    best players: Rostron, Towers / A Holms, J Holms, Campbell, Watson
    The Darwen side was much stronger than the one that played at Hampden and a slightly under-strength Queen’s Park eleven had a tough battle on a hard, slippery pitch.

    Blackburn Rovers-Queen's Park 2-2, 26.12.1881, Blackburn, Attendance: 15,000
    goals: 1-0 Douglas, 1-1 Allan, 2-1 Hargreaves, 2-2 Anderson or Kay
    best players: McCallum (gk)

    FA Cup 3rd round Aston Villa 2 Notts County 2, 31.12.1881
    Goals: Davis, Whateley / Bausor 2
    Best Players: Brown, Vaughton, Whateley, Simmons, Pank / AW Cursham, H Cursham, Moore, Jessop, Dobson


    Blackburn Rovers- Dumbarton 5-1, 31.12.1881, Blackburn
    goals: Strachan 2, og, Duckworth, scrimmage / ?
    best players: ?

    Queen's Park-Old Carthusians 8-0, 2.1.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 3,000
    goals: Kay (3), Harrower (3), Anderson, Ker
    best players: ?
    Despite heavy rain and a strong wind, upwards of 3,000 spectators were in attendance. Old Carthusians had been doing well in England and had been expected to put up stubborn resistance but, despite a relatively good start, eventually slumped to an 8-0 defeat.

    Vale of Leven-Old Carthusians 2-1, 3.1.1882, Alexandria, Attendance 3,000
    goals: ?
    best players: A McIntyre / Norris (gk), Messent

    FA Cup 3rd round replay, Notts County 2 Aston Villa 2, 7.1.1882
    Goals: Chapman, AW Cursham / Brown, Archie Hunter
    Best Players: / Archie Hunter, Brown

    FA Cup 3rd round second replay, Aston Villa 4 Notts County 1, 14.1.1882
    Goals: Archie Hunter, Whateley, Brown, Dawson / AW Cursham
    Best Players:

    Sheffield 2 London 4, 14.1.1882, Bramall Lane
    Goals: Winterbottom, Harrison / C Bambridge 2, Last, scrimmage
    Best Players: Mosforth / C Bambridge, Bailey

    FA Cup 4th round Wednesday 3 Heeley 1, 21.1.1882
    Goals: Rhodes, Cawley, Mosforth / ?
    Best Players:

    FA Cup 4th round, Wednesbury Old Athletic 4 Aston Villa 2, 21.1.1882
    Goals: G Woodcock 2, G Holden, Morl / Vaughton, Archie Hunter
    Best Players: G Woodcock, Roberts, G Holden, Kent (gk) / Archie Hunter, Vaughton


    Scottish Cup Quarter-final, Dumbarton-Rangers 2-1, 28.1.1882, Dumbarton
    goals: ?
    best players: ?
    Rangers protested that the match hadn't been played for 90 minutes. The protested was upheld and a replay was ordered.

    FA Cup 4th round, Blackburn Rovers-Darwen 5-01, 30.1.1882, Blackburn
    goals: J Hargreaves 2, Brown, J Duckworth 2 / og
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Quarter-final replay, Dumbarton-Rangers 5-1, 4.2.1882, Dumbarton
    goals: Brown, J Miller, Lindsay 2, og / ?
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Quarter-final, Wednesday 6 Upton Park 0, 7.2.1882
    Goals: Cawley 3, Mosforth 2, Rhodes
    Best Players:

    FA Cup Quarter-final, Blackburn Rovers 3 Wednesbury Old Athletic 1, 11.2.1882
    Goals: Lofthouse, Avery, Strachan / Growcutt
    Best Players:


    Sheffield-Glasgow 3-1, 11.2.1882, Bramall Lane, Attendance: 8,000
    goals: Mosforth, Cawley, Marples / Wyllie
    best players: Mosforth, Marples, Mallinson (gk), Hunter, Buttery, Harrison / Campbell, Hill, Wyllie, Harrower

    IRL-ENG 0-13, 18.2.1882, Belfast, Bloomfield Park, Attendance: 2,500
    goals: Vaughton 5, A. Brown 4, J. Brown 2, H. Cursham, Bambridge
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Semi-final, Old Etonians-Marlow 5-0, 4.3.1882, The Oval
    goals: Goodhart (3), Dunn, Macaulay
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Semi-final, Blackburn Rovers-The Wednesday 0-0, 6.3.1882, The Oval ?
    best players: Brown, J Hargreaves, Duckworth, Avery, Greenwood, McIntyre / Malpas, Mosforth, Buttery, Stevens, Gregory, West

    SCO-ENG 5-1, 11.3.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 10,000
    http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0015Sco1882.html
    goals: 1-0 Harrower (15), 1-1 Vaughton (35), 2-1 Ker (43), 3-1 McPherson (46), 4-1 Ker (70), 5-1 Kay (85)
    best players: Fraser, Anderson, Ker, Harrower, Kay, Gillespie (gk), Watson, Campbell / Mosforth, Bambridge, Greenwood

    WAL-ENG 5-3, 13.3.1882, Wrexham, Acton Park, Attendance: 5,000
    http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0016Wal1882.html
    Note: Charlie Bambridge injured after 3 minutes. England played with 10 men.
    goals: 0-1 Mosforth 30', 0-2 Parry 35', 1-2 Owen 43, 1-3 Cursham 48', 2-3 Morgan, 3-3 Jones OG 68, 4-3 Owen 87, 5-3 Vaughan 89.

    FA Cup Semi-final replay, Blackburn Rovers-The Wednesday 5-1, 15.3.1882, The Oval ? Fartown, Huddersfield
    goals: J Hargreaves, Avery, J Douglas, og, F Suter / og
    best players: J Douglas, J Hargreaves, F Suter, McIntyre

    Scottish Cup Final, Queen's Park-Dumbarton 2-2, 18.3.1882, Glasgow, Cathkin Park, Attendance: 12,000
    goals: 1-0 Harrower 1, 2-0 Harrower 30, 2-1 Brown, 2-2 Meikleham
    best players: Watson, McCallum (gk), Harrower / M Paton, Hutchison

    SCO-WAL 5-0, 25.3.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 5,000
    Goals: 1-0 Kay (25), 2-0 Ker (70), 3-0 Fraser (72), 4-0 Fraser (80), 5-0 McAulay (88)
    best players: ?

    FA Cup Final, Old Etonians-Blackburn Rovers 1-0, 25.3.1882, The Oval, Attendance: 6,000
    goals: Anderson
    best players: Rawlinson (gk)

    Aston Villa 3 Rangers 2, 25.3.1882, Birmingham
    Goals: Crosslands, Vaughton, Bryan / Dunvers 2
    Best Players:


    Old Carthusians- Old Etonians 1-0, 1.4.1882, The Oval
    goals: Parry
    best players: ?

    Scottish Cup Final replay, Queen's Park-Dumbarton 4-1, 1.4.1882, Glasgow, Cathkin Park, Attendance: 15,000
    goals: 1-0 Richmond 1, 1-1 Kennedy, 2-1 Ker, 3-1 Harrower, 4-1 Fraser or Ker
    best players: Ker, Harrower, Fraser

    Birmingham Cup Final, Wednesbury Old Athletic 1 Aston Villa 2, 1.4.1882, Aston
    Goals: ? / Brown, Andy Hunter
    Best Players: G Holden, Moon, Kent (gk) / Archie Hunter, Davies, Whateley, Anderson


    Charity Cup 1st round, Queen's Park-Vale of Leven 2-2, 15.4.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 5,000
    goals: 0-1 Brown, 1-1 Anderson, 2-1 Ker, 2-2 McFarlane
    best players: ?

    Blackburn Rovers-Vale of Leven 0-2, 16.4.1882, Blackburn, Attendance 9,000
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Rangers-Blackburn Rovers 2-2, 22.4.1882, Glasgow
    goals: ?
    best players: ?

    Charity Cup 1st round replay, Queen's Park-Vale of Leven 0-2, 6.5.1882, Glasgow, Hampden Park, Attendance: 10,000
    goals: Friel, McCrae
    best players: ?
    Vale of Leven had been practising hard since the first game but apparently Queen’s Park had not. Vale were the better side throughout and earned a well-deserved 2-0 victory.

    Charity Cup final, Dumbarton-Vale of Leven 2-2, 20.5.1882, Glasgow, ? Hampden Park, Attendance 7,000
    goals: Miller, Lindsay / Brown 2
    best players: Hutchison, Paton, / Strathern, Forbes

    Charity Cup final replay, Dumbarton-Vale of Leven 0-1, 3.6. 1882, Glasgow, ? Hampden Park, Attendance 10,000
    goals: D Kennedy
    best players: Lang / McIntyre, McLintock (gk)


    Newspaper sources: The Globe, London Evening Standard, The Sportsman, Birmingham Mail, Liverpool Mercury, Manchester Courier, Nottingham Evening Post, Sheffield Daily Telegraph, Sheffield Independent, Dundee Courier, Glasgow Herald, Greenock Telegraph.

    Sources are from the British Newspaper Archive, managed by the British Library Board.
     
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  3. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member+

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Suggested best XI 1881-82 (2-2-6):

    Gillespie - Watson, F Suter - Campbell, Bailey - Harrower, Ker, Archie Hunter, Bambridge, Kay, Mosforth.
     
  4. elegos7

    elegos7 Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Here are my suggestions for the nominees this season.

    23 Man Shortlist


    Anderson, William SCO Queen's Park
    Bailey, Norman ENG Clapham Rovers
    Bambridge, Charles ENG Swifts
    Brown, Arthur ENG Aston Villa
    Brown, James ENG Blackburn Rovers
    Campbell, Charles SCO Queen's Park
    Fraser, Eadie SCO Queen's Park
    Gillespie, George SCO Rangers
    Greenwood, Haydock ENG Blackburn Rovers
    Hargreaves, John ENG Blackburn Rovers
    Harrower, William SCO Queen's Park
    Hunter, Archibald SCO Aston Villa
    Kay, John SCO Queen's Park
    Ker, George SCO Queen's Park
    Kinnaird, Arthur SCO Old Etonians
    McIntyre, Andrew SCO Vale of Leven
    McIntyre, Hugh SCO Blackburn Rovers
    Morgan, John WAL Derby School
    Mosforth, William ENG The Wednesday
    Rowan, Archibald SCO Queen's Park
    Suter, Fergus SCO Blackburn Rovers
    Vaughton, Howard ENG Aston Villa
    Watson, Andrew SCO Queen's Park

    By country: Scotland (14), England (8), Wales (1)
    By club: Queen's Park (8), Blackburn Rovers (5), Aston Villa (3), Rangers (1), Clapham Rovers (1), Old Etonians (1), The Wednesday (1), Swifts (1), Vale of Leven (1), Derby School (1)

    Top3

    1. Harrower, William SCO Queen's Park
    2. Watson, Andrew SCO Queen's Park
    3. Hunter, Archibald SCO Aston Villa
    other candidates for the Top3: Campbell, Ker, Mosforth

    Team of the Season (2-2-6):

    Gillespie - Watson, F Suter - Campbell, Bailey - Harrower, Ker, Hunter, Bambridge, Kay, Mosforth.
     
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  5. elegos7

    elegos7 Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    The final results of this season are identical to those in post #4.
     

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