Best technique

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by Alessandro10, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. Alessandro10

    Alessandro10 Member

    Dec 6, 2010
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Who do you rate as the best technical players ever? Maradona is number 1 for me then(in no particular order): Zidane, Cassano,Bergkamp, Baggio, Ronaldinho. These IMO belong in a top 10 technical players ever.
     
  2. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Cassano was GOAT in ball control but there is MUCH more to being a great technical player than just being able to trap the ball

    Tier 1
    Maradona
    Zico
    Bergkamp
    Messi
    Enzo francescoli
    Stojkovic

    Tier 2
    Cruyff
    Ronaldinho
    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Ronaldo de Lima
    Savecivic
    Zinedine Zidane
    Cassano
    Rivelino
    George best
    Iniesta
    Pelé
    Baggio
    Neymar
    Hagi
     
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  3. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I inexplicably forgot Romario here who no doubt warrants an inclusion for his elite trapping technique and GOAT finishing
     
  4. Alessandro10

    Alessandro10 Member

    Dec 6, 2010
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Zidane in the first tier He could do everything with the ball. Ibrahimovic also should be in one of your tiers.
     
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  5. Alessandro10

    Alessandro10 Member

    Dec 6, 2010
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    Juventus FC
    Im curios why you place Stojkovic and Zico above Ronaldinho, Zidane and Baggio.
     
  6. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member

    Jun 1, 2018
    Ronaldinho is first tier easily.
     
  7. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #7 carlito86, Feb 8, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019

    This guy wasnt that much faster than a young riquelme but easily 3x the dribbler


    Re Zico he is one of the top 5 skilled players of all time along with Messi/Cruyff/Pele/maradona
    I’m talking about his skillset(playmaking/ball distribution/scoring/dribbling)and not about circus tricks a la R9,CR,Ronaldinho etc

    With pace he’d most likely be a direct challenger for Peles crown
    and potentially even better
    (His career achievement did not match his talent IMO hence he would receive a lower all time ranking)
     
  8. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
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    Real Madrid
  9. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member

    Jun 1, 2018
    Most of Zico's carrer was done in a considered subpar competition in the savage South American continent, even his Libertadores title and the Intercontinental is not enough to be considered a good achviement in the eyes of most Europeans now.

    His peak is just in foreign competition (even if the Brazilian League was much stronger than the actual, still ranked nowadays as the 6º league by SPI Index - and depth in terms of raw talent than most of other countries/national league), grouping this fact with other facts like of: he clearly underachived his original expectation with the Brazilian NT (pretty much the same of all other Brazilian stars), he didn't moved to Italy in 1980 (Flamengo held him for a long time with the biggest wages they could paid and Zico loved Flamengo) and that when he goes to Italy, most of because of 1982 WC failure, with already 30 years at end/slight past of the peak of most footballers at that time, he goes to Udinese (thanks Edinho!) a really small/uncompetitive club (different than Napoli before than Maradona that was still ranked as 4º according ELO), Udinese was the 12º of 16 before Zico.

    A series of bad choices, perceived clearly now, that make him stand out from a top20-30 of all time for most casual and even specialist Football fans of nowadays. But hey nobody is considered the best talent, best Brazilian player for 10 years (a country with a lot of people, that most of people likes/practices football, that is ranked in the 1-3º position since 1950 etc) without quality or being a fraud, he was bigger than Ronaldo, Romário, Neymar and much bigger than the ones like Rivaldo, Kaka and Ronaldinho etc.. a very good passer from all ranges, angles and specially the final ball, much more direct than most Ronaldinhos/Neymares and an a great goalscorer threat that could dribble just as fine, being more athletic in the middle of the 70 than in the early 80's.

    If Zico started his career today he would have made a career in Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Juventus somewhere like that and would certainly have played much more Champions League and his legacy would be much greater than it was. If he had gone to Juventus, or even to Rome, in the early 80's this would have already been.

    I think was very talented (more than the ones like Platini, Rummenigge etc), but the situation here might be more what he could have been in the place of what he really was, at least for non-Brazilians.
     
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  10. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #10 carlito86, Feb 16, 2019 at 12:50 PM
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019 at 12:58 PM

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