Huh. I came darn close this past weekend but was in too good a mood to jack it up. U12 academy boys, scheduled match time, we're ready to go, I give a tweet tweet to get 'em out there. White huddles briefly and then quickly moves into position. Blue huddles. Whole team, with coach. Wait. Tweet tweet. Blue huddles. Wait. I bring out my backup Sonik and TWEEET, and blue immediately breaks it up and we're underway. Several white players say Ow and hold their ears. So far so good. After halftime, white moves into position to start the second half. Ref crew gets into position. Blue is on their bench, coach continuing to harangue them with clipboard in hand. Wait. Tweet tweet. Blue doesn't move. Wait. Tweet tweet. Nada. Wait. Sonik: TWEEEEET. "Let's go coach." Still nada. OK, this is a pissing contest. It can't end well, so wait. Wait some more. Wait, and finally blue takes position. It was just getting to the point of OK, is this really worth getting into it with this coach over? But ... nah. But it actually did get me musing on whether I could have given a yellow to the coach for DRS. And then this thread.
I think one of the first questions I asked here on BS was how to deal with this issue--team won't come out, no way to add time (tournamnent)... The answer is: there isn't one. Now, I just go over and make a big deal out of listening in on their huddle. Sometimes they get it, sometimes they don't.
A National Assignor/National Instructor/coach told me once to card the captain for delaying the restart, with the motivation that a second one of those would of course result in the loss of the captain. I suspect now he would say card the coach for delaying the restart.
Smh. What if the captain is a 6 or a 5. Now they’re playing the next half with a caution Bc there coach wanted to give an extra set of instructions.... but I get the thought process behind his logic. Sounds like something that would’ve been done 10 years ago.
Last week, BVAR, I'm AR1. I know the coaches fairly well. Home get two quick, super cheeky goals (like, OG headed barely over an in-position GK). They're happy, joking around, laughing. Then, CR calls a foul, but sees offside flag was before a foul, calls offside, coach yells, "foul before offside!" to which a fan yells "Offside was first, idiot!" Next stoppage, I call over CR because coaches are losing their mind over the insult. Couldn't identify the guy, but as I'm pointing, the same guy yells "Whattya gonna do?" and shrugs. He's escorted out. Coaches incredulous over the fact that a spectator would dare be so unsporting like that. 2nd half, they give up two goals and the coaches start yelling all manner of stupid at the CR. It appears their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
This was a first. HSGV, white attacker is facing away from goal with possession a couple feet inside the PA, gets trucked by blue defender in the back. Big whistle, point to the spot, head to the spot, AR heads down the line. Other blue player starts yelling. Tell her to cool it, she doesn’t stop, there’s a crowd, one more time, caution, she and the others back off. I look from the spot for the kicker and white has set up for a free kick a foot outside the PA. I look at the AR, he’s headed back to the corner, raises his eyebrows. Ok, free kick it is! (They won anyway.)
Varsity games usually have an AD or some other site admin person present, at least around here, that would take care of removing a spectator.
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I am stunned they would kick someone out for a comment this minor. Good thing that the coach is not a ref, cause he got some serious rabbit ears.
Double header. Whistle for a hard fought battle between two B16 teams--both teams clearly thought one was the stronger team, but the battled to a 0-0 tie with both teams having multiple good scoring opportunities and a claim for a PK that I did not agree with. Fun game, though both teams felt aggrieved that I let the other team get away with too much. Shrug. Followed by AR for a not-so-stimulating G19. Bottom team against a lower middle team--clear to be a blow out from the first few minutes. As an AR don't you love watching the gears move in the R's brain. Latish in the game, team that is leading by a lot crosses a ball just above the PA, that hits the R and bounces to a defender. I can see the wheels moving. "It hit me, oh well. Wait, there's that new rule. Darn, possession changed. Eek, I'm supposed to give the attackers a DB right at the top of the PA. Nah, nothing in this game wants that to happen, let em just keep playing." Not a peep from anyone, whether because they don't know the new rule or weren't looking for a cheap scoring chance. Despite the blow out , both teams were still having fun out there--which made up for my boredom.
It doesn't have to be an AD. But each game should have a school administrator that you know before the match and can use to address issues with spectators. This is even one of the three points of emphasis in the rule book this year.
Game day admins are required in my state for high school. If they aren't present we are required to report. Occasionally they will be responsible for other activities (baseball, etc) but they are still required to introduce themselves and if they aren't going to be physically present provide a phone number to get them back if needed.
I have been positively impressed by the attentiveness and courteousness of high school site managers/admins this fall season. They often spot me before I leave the parking lot and have been diligent in helping keep the peace. When done right, their job makes ours much easier.
A number of years ago I had to stop a game due to personal heckling of a goalkeeper by a spectator. I stopped the game and walked toward the benches at which point the goalkeeper's coach starts berating me about his goalie getting heckled at which point I realized he was the home coach. "I'd love to throw him out, where is YOUR administrator?" The coach got real quite and we stood there for 5 minutes waiting for someone to show up and remove the spectator
I assume that was for the second thing he yelled? If it was the first, I would've been kicked out of every game I attended at Duke. So would most of the crowd. (We weren't very nice. I ref out of penance.)
College is certainly more permissive than HS . . . though at BB games my son played in over the past few years, it certainly would have taken more than that for a coach to even notice let alone be concerned about having someone tossed . . .
I was guilty of one of own pet peeves tonight! BV game, relatively competitive. Small contact that that home teams thinks was a foul. Wasn’t enough for me. Home team retains possession and develops on opportunity. I swing my arms up for advantage anyway! And then they were all happy with me. (But it wasn’t really a foul in the first place) Normally it bothers me when refs signal advantage even when they didn’t really think it was a foul beforehand. But I do see how it’s useful as a game management technique. Sometimes I don’t mind keeping people happy. Use with caution! Because if you signal too soon and the team loses the ball, then you kind of screw yourself into pulling it back.
I split hairs and say, "You still have it!" It helps encourage a player to continue playing while not technically being a statement of advantage. Maybe people think it is a difference in name only, but it works for me.
A first for me after 19 years. HSBV in the first minute white has a throw in near blue's goal line. High throw with a little spin and a breeze. Ball goes over keeper's hands, take one bounce and goes into the net. Yes, I signaled for the goal, but then my training kicked in and I waved it off. Confirmed with my dual partner and off we go with a goal kick. White coach goes nuts. He is sure, form the other half of the field, that he saw someone touch it. Three minutes later he hasn't stopped, so my partner shows him yellow. He said that is the earliest he has ever given a card.