Bar Italia - old men banter thread

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  1. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

    Italy
    Nov 13, 2017
    Retired
    SIUUUUUUUUU
     
  2. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  3. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  4. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Bunch of nobodies
     
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  5. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

    Italy
    Nov 13, 2017
    Retired
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  6. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Roma lost today.
     
  7. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Quag scored that screamer against NZ! ******** that was crazy
     
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  8. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Inter Milan- disgraceful club
     
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  9. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    But do they have legends that kick people like Roma ?
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I listened to a panel with Cassano, Ferrara and Vieri talking down to Wanda Nara and blaming her for Icardi. No one can really believe the situation she created.
     
  11. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Slovakia
     
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  12. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

    Italy
    Nov 13, 2017
    Retired
    Montella going back to Fiorentina.

    Thoughts?

    @NickyViola
     
  13. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Montella is a poor man's Luigi Del Neri.
     
  14. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Only in Fiorentina, he remained 3 years, in all other campaigns one year, maybe less. Someone is giving a lot of chances to him in coaching world, he wasted a lot of good chances.
     
  15. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    They had a lot of great players, mostly strong individuals, but team never had some major team spirit. At least not in the last 20-25 years.
     
  16. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    He will be delighted. Montella was his favourite.
     
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  17. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    All they need is Montlolivo back and they'll be a juggernaut!
     
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  18. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Not a fan. Pioli failed, though. In the last fifteen years our only managers I've liked have been Mondonico and Delio Rossi, so I'm used to disappointment
     
  19. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

    Italy
    Nov 13, 2017
    Retired
    At least you didn’t get EDF, the guy who got humiliated 7-1 by Pioli.
     
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  20. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Was Paulo Sousa good? He seemed as some kind of expert maybe. Hard to say with young coaches. Usually, central defensive players become good coaches: Guardiola, Gatusso, Simeone.
     
  21. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Gattuso? Maybe if he wasn’t testa dura.
     
  22. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    you can take the calabrese out of Calabria... but you can NEVER take the testa dura out of him
     
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  23. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Testa dura provides discipline for the players. He could perfectly copy the ideas of Ancelotti, with experience in Scotland, he could understand majority of European styles. For a coaching job, they need to be strange, unusual, often stubborn. Just observe Guardiola, he makes unusual body gestures during the interviews. Some of them try to discover Eastern beliefs: buddhism, zen state of mind, just so that they become more different. I think that Gatusso acted a lot his emotional escapades during his playing time. He wanted attention, maybe because of lack of technical abilities, so he noticed that the audience likes that kind of atmosphere. During interviews, he behaves calm. He wears black always, performing some mystic energy, similar to Simeone.
    Remembered now the coach Villas Boas. He was silent, ordinary and he isn't coaching anyone. He changed his occuapation I think. He is now visiting Web Summit events. Mourinho now prepares the field to take Bayern. He aims on that probably. Because, other bigger clubs are not optional. The worse thing is when players feel that they have more authority and domination than their coach. Happens in Cameroon NT at every world cup.:D Players are the coaches.
     
  24. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    They are known because of their temperament. Dramatic, sometimes irrational reasons why they react like that. Ciro Ferrara is also southern, but he was always calm. Ma staje pazziann.:cool: Davide Calabria should be Calabrian also. Unless if he is a Bresciano.:whistling: He seems calm I guess and he is useful on that RB position.
     
  25. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Pioli had the makings of something special but he doesn't seem to bothered about putting in a firm structure to his teams play. Leaving it up to individuals to go out and find a way is basically giving yourself no chance of consistency. Good manager but this will limit him. He seems he will stick with this way of thinking. I guess everyone goes down their own path but it just seems an odd path to take.

    He also told us something that we perhaps could have figured out from watching the team these past two years: “I don’t talk to my players about systems and shapes, it’s about positions, using your strengths and finding the weaknesses in the opposition.” That’s probably been his greatest shortcoming as a manager: the inability to teach his team to control a match. Rather, Pioli’s Fiorentina always seems to be flying by the seat of its pants, pushing the match into chaos and trying to win with individual brilliance. Perhaps a bit more of a system would give his players enough structure to connect some passes rather than hopefully flailing goalwards.
     
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