Austin FC 2021 Officially Announced as #27

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  1. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tumbleweed, Wyoming
     
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  2. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    That honor is probably going to go to VA Beach/Norfolk. ~~2M metro population with no major pro sports.
     
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  3. T-Bo

    T-Bo Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    That's one of the cities that COULD BE the "Largest City Without a Major League Sports Team" in America.

    I have a spreadsheet that includes the following:

    (And don't ask me why I have such a spreadsheet...)

    By CITY: Fort Worth (15), El Paso (22)

    By MSA: Riverside/San Bernardino/Ontario (13), Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Newport News (37)

    By CSA: Virginia Beach/Norfolk (32), Greensboro/Winston Salem/High Point (33)

    By TV MARKET: Hartford/New Haven (33), West Palm Beach/Fort Pierce (37)

    I'm note sure of the dates the lists I culled these answers from were made.

    There are obvious flaws in using each of these to compare cities, but the TV Market list gives a list, in my opinion, that is most like what people think of when they think of "Cities."

    Peace.

    T
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    It depends on how you define a "city". And whether you want to say that they "have a team."

    City Limit population (by U.S. Census 2017 estimates:
    15. Fort Worth 874,168 people
    22. El Paso 683,577
    29. Louisville 621,349
    32. Albuquerque 558,545
    33. Tucson 535,677
    34. Fresno 527,438

    MSA population (by U.S. Census 2017 estimates)
    13. Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 4,580,670 people
    37. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 1,725,246
    38. Providence-Warwick, RI-MA 1,621,122
    44. Richmond, VA 1,294,204
    45. Louisville, Jefferson County, KY-IN 1,293,953
    47. Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 1,210,259
    49. Birmingham-Hoover, AL 1,149,807
    51. Rochester, NY 1,077,948
    52. Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI 1,059,113

    BTW, Austin is #11 on the City Limit list and #31 on the MSA list.
     
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  5. T-Bo

    T-Bo Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    @newtex

    Looks like I beat you to that by about 2 minutes...

    Great minds, or something like that...

    Peace.

    T
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It depends on how you define city.

    I think the Virginia Tidewater is the largest metro area, but it splits its population between Norfolk and Virginia Beach (among others.)

    EDIT: OK, this got covered at the page turn. It's #2 if that Inland Empire is really, truly separate from LA and/or Orange County.
     
  7. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Doesn't everyone think of Riverside county as the LA exurbs?
     
  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Still, they have a heck of a drive if they want to attend an even in L.A. proper.
     
  9. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always thought Chivas USA (if they changed their name) would have done much better if they moved to the Inland Empire. Well, much better than "dead" isn't saying a lot, but...
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gonna be honest here.. I don't think Chivas had a chance. That's regardless of where they were located and what their name was.. They just had a bad ownership group and while an excellent location and brand can overcome a lot of things, I'm not sure it can overcome a bad ownership group.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't the question "Largest City in the US without a major professional team"?

    Just sticking to soccer, that rules out all of the bolded above (assuming Rochester comes back)...

    Is there a USL Championship or USL 1 team in Riverside / San Bernardino?
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    "Major" usually means "major league", the top league in a particular sport, and specifically MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, and now MLS. That's the criteria being used especially since this started with a question about Austin. Metro Austin already has minor league professional teams in soccer, baseball, basketball and hockey.
     
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  13. wingman2468

    wingman2468 Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    May 25, 2018
    Austin Elite of Major League Rugby as well, but technically play in round rock at the dell diamond, and the league is just getting off the ground.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I thought about adding them but I don't know if MLR is considered a "major" league yet. I'd have the same qualms about Major League Lacrosse teams or even WNBA teams, for instance.
     
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  15. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean to tell me that Uncasville, Connecticut isn't a "major league city?":eek:
     
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  16. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    What about the Major League Mountain Biking tour?
     
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  17. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, Cornhole has gone professional...why not?
     
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  18. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It depends on how one defines "city." City limits or metro area.

    Oh, and pet peeve here, largest is usually referencing size. So the largest city would be the one that covers the most area, not the most populous, which is what we are after here. End of peeve.

    Off the yop of my head, I would say Austin was never #1 and it was San Bernadino or something LA way.

    Well, half right, by city = Fort Worth, Texas. If you count that as part of Dallas (which you shouldn't if coubting by city), then it us El Paso. And by city, Austin was ibdeed the most populous without a major league team.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

    BTW, the LARGEST city I could find was Anchorage, at over 1,700 square miles. Jacksonville next at around 750.

    By metro = Riverside/San Bernadino CA at 4.5 mill. If you count as part of LA (which it is not by MSA), then Virginia Beach at 1.7 mil.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistical_areas

    EDIT: Feel free to delete, should have scrolled to end before posting. Post adds nada other than Anchorage is HUGE.
     
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  19. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Virginia Beach stands out for being nowhere near any major league teams. Riverside/San Bernardino is properly classified as a separate MSA, but you can get to Anaheim in about an hour on most days. The closest team to Virginia Beach is the Carolina Hurricanes in Raleigh. For anything else, it's DC. Both of those are 3+ hour drives.
     
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  20. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. I never understood the logic of that position, either.

    It sounds a lot like a baseball discussion: He’s got the most RBIs of anyone NOT in the Hall of Fame. Well, good for him. When did that become a criterion?
     
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  21. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is Alex Rodriguez?
     
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  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suck it Trebek
     
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  23. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    There has to be a last guy to get on the rollercoaster and a next guy waiting to get on the ride.
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A-Roids may have something keeping him out of the hall of fame.. I'm not sure what tho.. ;)
     
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  25. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I think the guy who has the most hits isn't in the hall of fame either.
     
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