Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Remember Draxler is a future NT captain, according to Low lol.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U17
    X1: Sohn, Ibrahimi, Tahirsylaj, Krasucki, Bozickovic, Bamba (04), El-Zein, Ruiu, Pacolli, Kloppel, Kastanaras, Mahmuti
    Sodic, Kalonji

    U19
    X4: S.Muller (now at 11 for the season, should easily hit 20+ this season like he's aiming for.Interesting thing only 2 Koln U19 players have scored 20 and more in a season Mause at 20 and Schalke's Uth at 24. He's already halfway through tying Uth.)
    X2: Thielmann, Hafner
    X1: Wolf, Kemper, Scott (continues to perform 7 goals in 8 games), Bukusu, Bajraktari, Lemperle (back fit was out for awhile), Obuz, Voloder, Schwirten, Bongard, Schroers, Can Aydin, Bozdogan, Biskup, Asllani, Woltemade, Dinkci, Aksakal, Strobl, Mika
    Kommerling, ter Horst, Egloff, Hollerbach, Hummel, Mansfeld,

    -overall there seems to be a lot of indication that 02 players are much better than 01s, faster they breakthrough the better and that includes 02s who barely play because seniority rules. Some 02s are doing better than 01s in limited game time as well.
    -seriously Koln will be interesting to see what they do with 01-S.Muller, 02-Lemperle, 02-Obuz, 02-Thielmann all attacking players, then you got 03-Wirtz, 03-Schmid etc. For now it seems like Thielmann is the closest to the 1st team with the coach being really high on him. Then add all the non-attacking prospects......
    -at Stuttgart will be curious to see who they promote. 02-Egloff is performing as usual was even doing very well up his age group last season in U19. 01-Hollerbach was poached from Bayern by Walter and seems to being well too and would guess he's a potential 1st teamer due to luring him maybe? Both are currently in top 4 of scoring charts of Sud/Sudwest. Also nice to see 02-Hummel getting his 3rd when he's been mostly bencher and spent way too much time injured in past. Although will be nice when 02-Kramny comesback from his long term injury. And they still got lots of midfield/defensive players too.

    RL
    Appelkamp (5th), Ihorst X2 (4th, should be more like 6th, got robbed twice including once by a teammate), Zehir (1st), Justvan (4th), Moker (3rd), Rittmuller (1st), Caliskaner X2 (4th)

    3rd Liga
    -said it recently I'm not very impressed by the Dutch Zirkzee so far and today reiterates why. Comes on as a sub in 68th min and then gets red carded in 80th min. Bayern II had a 3-2 lead but once the red card happened Meppen scored 3 in 15 min to win it 5-3.:rolleyes: Anyways, no OBM since he was busy doing business in U19 yesterday but Kohn and Dajaku both picked up assists in the loss.
    -Sonnenberg scored his 1st of the season in a 3-1 loss to HR. While Jena who beat HR 3-1, had Donkor and Kauper both score their 1st in the win. It's crazy to think that 2 years ago, Kauper was extremely close to breakingthrough the Bremen 1st team but long term injury (what else) made him lose his chance and was then dumped on loan which bombed due to what seems tied to unprofessionalism so he was let go by Aue who took him on loan. And likely due to this he's on loan in 3rd Liga. I still don't like Bremen and their lone army model, why because a lot of their loans are like 3rd Liga. Don't buy it'll be good enough for them, that's what happened to Schmidt, he did well in 3rd Liga, helped Wehen get promotion and what did he get ?another loan but 2BL but instead of loaning him back to Wehen who liked him he got loaned to Osnabruck another promoted team, dumb. Same thing will likely happen to 00-Mbom, next season will likely end up with on a 2nd loan. Would guess for Mbom between Eredivisie, 2BL, Austrian Bundesliga as options. There seems more likely to be space in 1st team by 2021 too. That is not integration, a player being loaned out is not a player who got integration by his club nor dev by them either. Anyways 00-Gottwald also made his 3rd Liga debt for Jena.

    2BL
    -Massimo and Awoudja were unused as Stuttgart beat Dynamo 3-1. Dynamo had Burnic in XI, seems like Stuttgart scored 2 goals that were own goals or 1 that is credited as such while the other seems more debated. 01-Ehlers was absent while 00-Kulke came on the 24 min and played 66 min today in only his 2nd 2BL pro game, it's his 1st of the season. Lowe was unused bench.
    -AB beat Kiel 2-1, which now ties them with HSV on pts but they are 2nd due to GD. Pieper continues to start for them. Just took 12 matches as unused bench for 98-Kunze to make his 2BL/pro debut playing 4 min, lol. Seufert was also sub while Staude and Lucoqui were unused. I think it's interesting that one of Seufert or Staude (forget which one) was one of the better 2BL players last season but this season on bench. 2BL seems tor reward players with bench time a lot, one sees more players get easily benched in 2BL than in 1BL. Weird how the 2nd tier has a short leech......Meanwhile Kiel had Ozcan, Neumann,lyoha and Serra in XI. lyoha scored his 2nd of the season in the loss. While Porath/Lauberbach were 86th min subs and Sander/M.Baku/Reimann were unused.
    -10 men Wehen tied HSV 1-1 in injury time. The only Wehen youth German to play Knoll came on the 86st min and scored in 90+1 for his 10 men team, lol but don't mind me the young players should never be played, keep relying on the older flops.......while Franke and Shipnoski were unused and every other youngster was left out....Although would guess that Aigner's straight red could open up spots in attack. With Vagnoman out until Winter, Fein was the only XI for HSV while 00-David finally made his season debut coming on the 90th min.

    Eredivisie
    -what else is new that 99-Beste is injured again....had injury issues all season. Sometimes I wonder if the body of these German youngsters can't withstand pro levels. One notices a lot of players getting injured easily in their 1st pro season. Beste for one has never played beyond RL until his Eredivisie loan.....
    -Yeboah after missing out 2 games for injury was used as a 17 min sub for 10 men VVV. Would expect him to be back in XI soon enough.

    Austrian Bundesliga
    -Berisha picked up 2 assists in a 4-0 win.

    1BL
    -for the love of God, what is up with these Germans and injury? 01-Katterbach with another XI and injured after 5 min.:cry:
    -Uduokhai and Richter (also picked up an assist) were XI vs Schalke in a 3-2 loss. Schalke had Serdar in XI while Mercan, Schubert, Reese, Boujellab and Kutucu on the bench, all unused. 6/9 Schalke benchers were youth, 3/3 subs used were the non-youth.

    This season really is not a great season for chances, even for purchased players, Bayer Leverkusen spent like $20M on 00-Paulinho (in club since 2018) and $15M on 99-Diaby and neither has played much they are mostly unused benchers/back up players. Even overpriced/over-expensive youth players are barely playing. There are a bunch of other examples. Really shows that the amount of integration is very low this season.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like for Koln U19 Georg Strauch, Meiko Sponsel and Jakob Jansen are all injured.

    also seems like in their 10-0 win, S.Muller scored 4 goals and picked up 3 assists. Lemperle and Obuz both seem to have gotten minimum 1 assist too on top of their goals. No idea about the remaining 5 assists.

    have to say that TM has been very very slow this season for updates, were much much better last season. Last few years, Nord/Nordost was the only one of the 3 that had delayed updates now it's all 3 leagues, West some have had not been updated for weeks. And everywhere there are barely barely any assists updates. On assists it feels like Bayern and Dortmund are the only ones with more frequent updates with a less frequent here and there for players of other clubs.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    01 GK Benedikt Willert of FCN could be the 1st 01 GK to make his debut. :eek:The club (like Fortuna) have mass injuries and the guy supposed to be #1 might fall out due to fever.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/1-fc-nuernberg-willert-gegen-bochum-im-tor/

    believe it would make him the 1st 01 GK to make his pro debut in 1BL-2BL.
    97, I don't recall was it F.Muller (1BL)?
    98-seems to be Schubert 1st (2BL) followed by Bansen (Belgian 1st division) I believe.
    99-Bartels was 1st but seems to have injured himself in warm up and was subbed out after 5 min (2BL). The waste is had he not gotten injured (still injured) he could have established himself at #1..... then Thiede was subbed in due to injury during the 1st half (1BL)
    00-Plogmann made his 1BL debut as a sub last season due to injury (1BL), only other name I can think of is Novakovic who's played in Dutch 2nd division and Cup.
    01-Willert in 2BL???

    I tend to find 01 has plenty of interesting 01 GK, Willert making his pro debut above the rest was not something one would have expected.:D

    of course you got 99-Grill, 00-Mantl, 00-Fruchtl, 00-V.Muller who are all #1s in 3rd Liga. And then 99 Hoffmann is Bayern II #2, Hoffmann could become #1 if Fruchtl leaves in Summer has played once this season and a lot of youngsters are bench GKs. You also got 98-Frommann getting a couple of games. Also lots of 95-97 GKs in 3rd Liga.

    on another note, 99-Harsman has played the last 2 games for Meppen due to #1 getting a straight red, including the 5-3 win over Bayern II. While 97-Behrens has started the last 7 games for Magdeburg.

    3rd Liga youngsters is still important as 2BL does buy a lot from 3rd Liga. While someone like Mantl is promotion candidate to 2BL due to the club being promotion candidates.

    current 2BL doesn't look great for young GKs besides 2nd or 3rd. Bartels was the youngest player but then it goes to the Swiss 97-Kobel and 97-Reimann (who lost his #1 place), then 96-Korber who was #1 but what else got injured and still out. Then a couple of 95 and everyone else is a lot older than that.
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so it continues, the 03 can never take the best possible squad at any point in time as of now. Even the coach admits it
    "We look forward to the European Championship qualifying round, where we are now serious," says Wück. "So far, there have been no surprises in the other groups, and we want to live up to our role as favorites with three wins over our group opponents Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Greece, unfortunately, there were five injury-related cancellations in advance, but we will be with a high-quality squad to Greece to travel."

    wonder who are the 5. So far seems like Wirtz, Gedikli, Matanovic, Wollschlager are out. Believe 03-Ernst has been out since end of August too. Could be someone else.

    Torwart
    Louis Lord Werder Bremen 3 0
    Philipp Schulze VfL Wolfsburg 2 0
    Abwehr
    Arbnor Aliu FC Schalke 04 2 0
    Bent Andresen Hamburger SV 2 0
    Bright Akwo Arrey-Mbi Bayern München 4 0
    Angelo Brückner Bayern München 2 0
    Luca Denk Bayern München 4 0
    Moritz Reuther 1. FSV Mainz 05 2 0
    Lion Semic Borussia Dortmund 4 0
    Jakov Suver VfB Stuttgart 4 0
    Mittelfeld/Sturm
    Turan Calhanoglu TSG Hoffenheim 5 2
    Lasse Günther Bayern München 2 2
    Mesut Kesik Hertha BSC 2 0
    Elijah Krahn Hamburger SV 0 0
    Dennis Lütke-Frie Borussia Dortmund 2 0
    Luca Netz Hertha BSC 15 4
    Torben Rhein Bayern München 5 0
    Marlon Roos Trujillo 1. FSV Mainz 05 3 0
    Danny Schmidt 1. FSV Mainz 05 4 0
    Armindo Sieb TSG Hoffenheim 3 3

    auf Abruf
    Luca Barata Borussia Mönchengladbach 1 0
    Jens Castrop 1. FC Köln 3 0
    Mehmet Ibrahimi RB Leipzig 2 0
    Keanu Kraft 1. FSV Mainz 05 1 0
    Jan Marvin Krüger RB Leipzig 0 0
    Tony Rölke Hertha BSC 0 0
    Jonas Urbig 1. FC Köln 1 0
    Tobias Werdich VfB Stuttgart 0 0

    surprised that Barata was left out. Ibrahimi although important at RB Leipzig U17 feels like he really needs to be more efficient upfront. But there are a lot of interesting 03s not getting called up doesn't mean anything about them. One has to remember that a lot of players lose relevance post U17 and others gain it post U17.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like 03-Gencoglu did not play for Dortmund U17 over the weekend. Is he injured/unfit again?
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    and this is the type that really is negative for young players. The more these clubs get money the less 1st team chances there will be. It's funny when clubs say they will focus more on their Academy players because transfer market is bonkers $$$ wise but they still overspend every season. Will likely limit the 1st team chances of U19/II players. Even more reason why II getting 3rd Liga promotion could be important for the players.

    -01 Katterbach seems to be no timetable for return. Wonder if 99-Jakobs gets a chance?


    -99 Wintzheimer seems to be a contender to start today for Bochum.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-sucht-den-ganvoula-ersatz-65759934.bild.html

    -On Knoll who scored vs HSV while his club were 10 men.
    HSV: Always trouble with the ex-players
    https://www.90min.de/posts/6490478-hsv-immer-aerger-mit-den-ex-spielern
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    02-Thielmann (the one rated by the Koln 1st team coach), his 2nd goal in the 10-0 win, which he scored while Koln U19 were 10 men because 02-Obuz got a straight red. Not sure what an attacking player like Obuz is doing being aggressive when your team was leading 9-0, LMAO.
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    League Two (English 4th division)
    -looks like 98 GK Benda (on loan) continues to do well for his club and getting + responses in a 2-1 win, club is currently 3rd.

    3rd Liga
    -who else but Daschner scoring his 7th of the season and winner in a 2-0 win to take his club Duisburg to 1st place in 3rd Liga. While Sicker assisted the 2nd.

    Dutch 2nd division
    -Roesch (on loan) picks up an assist for Roda vs PSV II in a 1-1 draw
    -Bisseck (on loan) made his 1st bench today for Roda but unused. Its his comeback from his long term injury. Moved there on Aug 22 injured and finally made his 1st squad on Nov 4, over 2 months injured.

    2BL
    -Bochum beat FCN 3-1

    for Bochum (not sure why their bench was only 6 players when allowed 9......)
    XI: Lorenz (scored the 2nd for Bochum), 01-Bella-Kotchap (back in XI after impressing vs Bayern), Wintzheimer
    Unused: Janelt, really is shame that Bapoh is out all season.

    Wintzheimer got the XI start (his 1st of the season), wtf is wrong with the coach we're not supposed to play the youngsters.:p
    And Wintzheimer scored too, stands the season at 1 goal and 1 assist in 5 games in 2BL (4 goals and 1 assist in 12 career 2BL games). He also had some involvement in the 1st goal as he used his back to goal very well, that was always one of the + of his games. Will say this just like lyoha (on loan), Serra, Kruger (buyback clause), Otto (on loan), Daferner (on loan) they all need to play as much as possible and score as much as possible. Wintzheimer is on loan from HSV, if he wants to go back there and get chances he needs to do well this season otherwise he likely will be dumped on loan again. And if HSV get promotion to 1BL, it's a chance to play there next season. This was a rare win for Bochum this season and now they are very close to leaving the relegation zone.

    for FCN
    XI: 01 GK Willert making his pro and 2BL debut, Muhl, Nurnberger, Hack
    Unused: Handwerker and Fuchs

    Willert made history as 10th youngest GK in history of 2BL
    10-Benidickt Willert, 18 years old and 155 days, FCN, 2019.
    9-Klaus Herzer, 18 years old and 153 days, FSV Frankfurt, 1980 (beat Willert by 2 days, lol)
    8-Jorg Albrecht, 18 years old and 139 days, Union Solingen, 1982
    7-Dennis Eilhoff, 18 years old and 81 days, AB, 2000
    6-Andreas Kopke, 18 years old and 80 days, Kiel, 1980. German Legend and current GK coach of senior NT.
    5-Robert Enke, 18 years old and 79 days, Jena, 1995. Was supposed to be Germany #1 for 2010 WC before tragedy....
    4-Klaus Muller, 18 years old and 76 days, FCN, 1974. Because of him Willert doesn't hold the club record it seems.
    3-Andreas Muller, 18 yeard old and 41 days, Freiburg, 1978.
    2-Ralf Collemann, 17 years old and 328 days, Saarbrucken, 1980.
    1-Peter Kilian, 17 years old and 159 days, Bamberk United, 1974.

    It's weird to realize that he's the 1st youngster in almost 20 years to make his pro debut in 2BL as GK.
    as for Willert he kept a clean sheet in 2nd half. Did not watch but seems like he had a lot of good moments throughout the game. The 1st goal conceded he could do nothing about. The 2nd goal looks like he fumbled it do to the ball being slippery, raining? If it did rain, not a nice way to make a debut. And the final goal which Wintzheimer scored went between the legs. Although this one, seems like the blame is on the defenders more as they are the ones who allowed him to go free alone. I would expect him not to play in the next match, I mean he is supposed to be 5th choice GK , from their U19 and very young. The 2nd goal which was his mistake will likely cost him another chance. We likely won't see him for a long while given that most GKs end up playing RL 1st.


    Ukraine 1st division
    Abu Hanna continues to start for Zorya as the club is currently in 4th place, they won 4-1 yesterday. 1st is without reach and then #2-#5 are very very close pts wise.He has a contract there until 2021, wonder if he goes somewhere else in Summer?

    1BL
    -looks like Arp has been back into training after his hand injury and seems like he might need another 2 weeks so basically post International break. He hasn't trained since end of Sept, whole of October out.

    -while Wolfsburg coach praises Nmecha as getting better and better.
    https://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/vfl-wolfsburgs-lukas-nmecha-uberzeugt-glasner-startelf-debut/
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like 01-Glazel is out for the season according to the Liverpool U23 coach. Recall last update was that he might comeback end of the season, seem like now its all season.

    not only does that mean we can't use him for Germany U19 but also means that as a player that's a massive delay career wise. He likely would have played some 1st team games in League Cup and continued to play U23 and then next season could have been another step. Now what he would have done this season will likely be what he does next season....

    one also has to wonder if he'll comeback stronger or not. That's his 2nd big injury in last 2 years.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    seems like clubs interested in 02 CF Adeyemi (who seems currently out) now includes Real Madrid/Juventus on according to latest reports and seems valued at $10M min.

    lol how about he just breaksthrough RB Salzburg instead, where one would also get chances to play 1st division and CL. You go to those top clubs in Europe and you'll likely rot for awhile in B/C teams.Although the issue (and stupidity) is RB Salzburg you sign someone until 2021 but making him play in feeder club in 2nd division until Summer 2020. Which only gives 1 year and his contract is done, so they could be forced to sell the kid soon.

    it's disgusting but the future of football really seems about getting players while very young and still cheap that seems to be the growing market. Like clubs who missed out of Sancho, Mbappe etc and don't want to miss out on a top prospect to other clubs. If they pan out it's worth if not than it's cheap change. If one wants to buy a Sancho they will likely be forced to fork out very very high sum while like X15+ times more than what Dortmund paid for him. lol it really is basically teenage trafficking. If Adeyemi pans out at RB Salzburg will just make him all the more expensive compared to present day.
     
  12. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I really don't like young players moving to big clubs too early. They are better off staying at smaller clubs and playing regular 1st team football rather then getting lost in the system at clubs who stockpile a ton of players and never play them.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it's the same issue for a clubs like Bayern too. They stockpile tons of players in but how many per age group will get integrated. When one sees tons of interesting 03, 04, 05s at Bayern but we would be lucky if more than one gets integrated for real per age group. All of this stockpiling just to show off and win some youth trophies. The current only benefit to staying at Bayern really is that II is in 3rd Liga no other reason.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany U19 mini friendly tourney.
    Torwart
    Daniel Klein 13.03.2001 TSG Hoffenheim 1 0
    Diant Ramaj 19.09.2001 1. FC Heidenheim 4 0
    Luca Unbehaun 27.02.2001 Borussia Dortmund 0 0
    Abwehr
    Antonis Aidonis 22.05.2001 VfB Stuttgart 3 0
    Erkan Akalp 30.07.2001 1. FC Köln 0 0
    Simon Asta 25.01.2001 FC Augsburg 4 0
    Armel Bella Kotchap VfL Bochum 0 0
    Frederik Jäkel 07.03.2001 RB Leipzig 5 0
    Kaan Kurt Borussia Mönchengladbach 4 0
    Malik Talabidi 16.07.2001 RB Leipzig 5 0
    Robert Voloder 09.05.2001 1. FC Köln 1 0
    Mittelfeld/Sturm
    Oliver Batista Meier 16.02.2001 Bayern München 4 0
    Leon Dajaku 12.04.2001 Bayern München 4 3
    Tobias Eisenhuth 21.09.2001 Energie Cottbus 0 0
    Erkan Eyibil 15.06.2001 1. FSV Mainz 05 2 0
    Lenn Jastremski 24.01.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 5 1
    Tom Krauß 22.06.2001 RB Leipzig 5 1
    Jamie Leweling 26.02.2001 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 0 0
    Soufiane Messeguem 05.02.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 3 0
    Sebastian Müller 23.01.2001 1. FC Köln 3 0
    Lazar Samardzic Hertha BSC 3 2
    Kevin Schade SC Freiburg 3 3
    Oscar Schönfelder 05.02.2001 1. FSV Mainz 05 5 1
    Angelo Stiller 04.04.2001 Bayern München 0 0

    auf Abruf
    Julian Albrecht 31.08.2001 Hertha BSC 0 0
    Faride Alidou 18.07.2001 Hamburger SV II 0 0
    Tom Kaspar Berger 31.07.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 0 0
    Can Bozdogan 05.04.2001 FC Schalke 04 0 0
    Eren Sami Dinkci Werder Bremen 0 0
    Mick Gudra 01.01.2001 Hannover 96 3 0
    Benedict Hollerbach 17.05.2001 VfB Stuttgart 0 0
    Lino Kasten 17.01.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 0 0
    Per Lockl 07.03.2001 VfB Stuttgart 0 0
    Nico Mai 09.03.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 0 0
    Jan Olschowsky Borussia Mönchengladbach 0 0
    Ole Pohlmann 05.04.2001 VfL Wolfsburg 0 0
    Manuel Reutter 22.07.2001 VfB Stuttgart 0 0
    Moritz Römling 30.04.2001 VfL Bochum 0 0
    Dominic Schmidt 12.03.2001 FC Augsburg 0 0
    Simon Stehle 17.09.2001 Hannover 96 0 0
    Jorik Wulff 22.04.2001 Werder Bremen 0 0

    Unbehaun is fit again while Akalp, Leweling, Eisenhuth (attracting lots of interest), Stiller (doing well this season) made the squad. While a lot of interesting guys on call.....

    also did Voloder switch or not? He keeps making friendlies but then excluded from competitive games.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of Bayern when one realizes that 03-Rhein was a Hertha Berlin youth product pre-Bayern or 03-Denk was an FCN youth product, 05-Ibrahimovic knows Denk from both of their times at FCN. 03-Gunther originally came from Augsburg, 03-Motika was another Hertha product, tons more examples.All these players would easily breakthrough their non-Bayern Academies.

    also always found it interesting how in recent times outside of 97-Richter where are the Augsburg wingers? They always seem to have interesting prospects spread throughout the positions but Winger is mostly empty one. Tells you that any promising winger could make it there if they actually went to the club.Someone like 99-Roesch is an AM who sometimes play W, 02-Emini and then it seems to be 03-Berisha that seems to be it. Pretty empty club wise....
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so seems like last week Stuttgart signed a cooperation with SG in 3rd Liga. Sounds to me like players they like/rate will be loaned out there, current loan there 00 CF Hottmann. That doesn't seem like + news for Stuttgart II as numerous debates over the last few season there about axing their II team, that club seems more and more anti-Academy players, terrible.....and their II seems unlikely to get a promotion back to RL this season.

    and in other news 2BL Aue wants to sign a cooperation with Sparta Moscow in Russia.:rolleyes:
    "We want to work together in sports and business," said the FCE president, who is considering, among other things, the loan of players, but also seeks an exchange outside the office and training ground: "Even the cooperation between fan clubs will help build bridges . "

    For Russian players, Leonhardt, Aue could again be an interesting option, "because the 2nd Bundesliga provides a very good platform for players who sit on the bench, but want to evolve". The FC Erzgebirge could also score with an "excellent infrastructure, a converted stadium and a training center".
    https://www.kicker.de/761887/artike...enge_kooperation_mit_spartak_moskau_an#twfeed

    how the beep is this good news for German soccer, so Aue will become a feeder club to a foreign league and club.:rolleyes: Who cares about Russians. And Aue in recent times talked about how it was important for their small club to lure German youngsters like 99-Kruger, 00-Majetschak etc to their clubs seems like future strategy will be to play feeder club.

    I'm not a huge fan of "cooperation" because it's NEVER a 2 way street, always only 1 club benefits. Seriously between things like this and Hertha getting $100M to spend on players, there will be less and less chances in 1BL-2BL going forward. Germany is becoming more and more and more feeder league and buy buy buy. Is it really shocking that Bierhoff is trying to make 3rd Liga play more and more youngsters or open more doors for young players in 3rd Liga? Not really when their seems to be less and less opportunities by the season in 1BL-2BL. The more II teams jump to 3rd Liga the better for the youngsters too, so far, seems like Hertha II and Wolfsburg II are the only promotion candidates from all II in RL.

    the bolded so dev Russian benchers but screw the German benchers, LMAO and Aue is a club with no II as well......
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    UEFA Youth League
    Dortmund U19 beat Inter Milan U19, 2-1.
    Goals scored by Knauff X2 and Assists by Khadra X2. That's 3 goals and 1 assist in last 2 games for 02-Knauff, also he scored the winners in last 2 matches over the weekend vs Duisburg and today too, Knauff has played this season at like 572 min in all competition in 3 tourneys, could play more than that too. I liked Knauff last season in U17 he's

    Dortmund at 6 pts are still contenders to make the next round, they are 3rd place but 2nd is at 6 pts and 1st is only at 9 with 2 games to go.

    RB Leipzig U19 beat Zenit 2-0
    Goals scored by Amededejisso X2.

    RB Leipzig are all but out with 4 pts in 3rd but 1st and 2nd have both 9 pts with 2 games to go. Maybe they should play some 03s to get them some U19 match practice.

    Bayern and Dortmund are the only hope for next round for German clubs.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it's a known fact that U19 Nord/Nordost is usually the weakest league of the 3 U19 1st divisions and less regarded too, but this season it seems very weak defensively at least.

    10 games have been played in U19, if one looks at top scorers chart.

    U19 West
    take out the outliers called Moukoko (18), S.Muller (11), and Scott (7)
    you end up with the entire league at between 0-5 goals scored by players.

    U19 Sud/Sudwest
    take out the outliers called M.Tillman (9) and Beier (8)
    you end up with the entire league at between 0-5 goals scored by players

    U19 Nord/Nordost
    take out the outliers called Asllani (13) and Dinkci (13)
    you end up with a high end of 12 players between 7-10 goals. Than another like 8 players at like 5-6. That's way too many, even a fullback at Pauli 02-Voelcke is currently at 5, lol.

    for comparison sake, last season in 2018-2019 season, only 16 players in Nord/Nordost scored double digits, lol. This season we are headed for possible 20+ players doing it.

    harder to look at TM when they aren't fully updated data.

    when Sud/Sudwest and West players are mostly at the mid point of 0-10 vs huge amount already past the mid point in Nord/Nordost it's very telling and there are still 16 games to go in the season too..........At this point more than enough game time for most to easily hit double.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol looking at the post above.
    3 in West above 5, 2 in Sud/Sudwest above 5 and then Nord/Nordost has like 22 players at 5+ but if you want the ones above 5 goals it's actually currently at 15 who are 6 and more.:ROFLMAO: That's X5 more than West and X7.5 times the Sud/Sudwest after just 10/26 games.:laugh:

    -looks 99-Maier is getting close.


    -same goes to 98-Friede also training again.


    from that Friede tweet, looks like Ngankam and Netz are training with 1st team too.

    -in the injury news looks like 02-Meyer of Stuttgart might have injured himself over the weekend and also 03-Herold who was a starter at Bayern U19 also seems currently injured for a bunch of weeks now.

    -33 year old Mavraj seems like he could be out in weekend which could open up chance for 98-Jaeckel or 00-Bauer in defense.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/greuther-fuerth-bangt-um-mergim-mavraj/
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Surprise Surprise, just like how Kosovo seemed close to poach 98-Berisha, Germany called him up to U21 and now just as Ghana seemed close to call up Ache, Germany calls him up.
    [​IMG]


    Commenting on the nomination, the DFB coach adds, "Most of the guys have been in the field since September and have proven themselves both on and off the pitch, and Ragnar Ache has played a strong season in the Eredivisie so we want to get to know him better."

    pretty much still overall the same players which Kuntz confirms although still think not everyone necessarily deserves the call up and less likely in long run. Same thing happens guys who start cycle might not necessarily be the ones chosen in 2 years. Will be curious to see what happens once Maier is fit again, same for Friede who is viewed as potential Hertha 1st teamer.

    I have no problem for Berisha and Ache playing for Germany they were both born in Germany and lived there until 10 and started playing in Germany too but as mentioned before both are not really German produced CFs. Berisha is a product of the Austrian system and Ache the Dutch one. All the relevant dev was not done in Germany even if they started in that country. That they are 21 now means they spent 11 years in those systems. Although don't know their stories but them moving to those countries young likely means it was their parents who moved there.

    and Awoudja, Handwerker, Serra are interesting call up since they've had struggles this season. Janelt was always a weird call up, he seems like a sub for Maier who's been injured for awhile, once he's fit what's the likelihood he continues to get called up? And he's been a bencher in recent times.
     
    Dang Son Tung repped this.
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    UEFA YL
    Bayern U19 won 6-0 vs Olympiakos.
    Goals scored by Tillman X2, OBM X2 while Cuni and Waidner got assists.

    inflated score due to OBM drawing a PK for the 2nd goal which was also a red card offense. OBM scored 2 PKs being the fouled player both times. Bayern U19 are likely advancing to the next round. Also interesting to note that Bayern U19 have only conceded 1 goal in 4 YL games this season. Which means 03-Mbi, 01-Stiller in DM, 01-Kehl and 01-Waidner have done their jobs.

    while Bayer U19 like RB Leipzig are headed home after 6 games played.
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    in some Frankfurt updates, looks like 02-Irorere has been out for awhile too. From what I recall it was confirmed years ago when he started to play U19 earlier that his contract has an option for pro contract. Huge CB at 1.95m and seems to love scoring in corners/free kicks lol. He's also participated numerous times in 1st team friendlies as well.

    meanwhile the new head of the Frankfurt youth Moller.
    Möller is fully behind his tasks

    The fact that the experienced Frankfurter still gets a chance at Eintracht, is due to his great ambitions. He is an absolute expert for his new area of responsibility: "In particular, I want to focus more on promoting the individual, playful quality of Eintracht young talent," says Möller in SportBild. He takes his job enormously serious, to which he develops a strong bond with the youth players.

    An example of his involvement was an incident that occurred recently at the U16 encounter against FSV Frankfurt. As a real spectator, he had to witness how offspring player Maurice Kobanda injured, his broken foot gave all involved a good shock. Möller hurried onto the field and spoke with his protégé, exchanging views with the paramedics and the mother of the top talent.

    His commitment to the new job is enormous, and Möller likes to work in the background in order to work even more efficiently. Among other things, he promoted cooperation with other youth clubs such as Standard Liege. In the club he cares for all age groups, despite the great headwind he puts himself fully in the service of the club. In the coming months, he wants to continue working on the strong foundation. In his third attempt at Eintracht he finally wants to do everything right.
    https://www.90min.de/posts/6491864-so-lief-moellers-start-als-nachwuchschef-bei-der-eintracht

    posted this for the head of the annoying/struggling to give chances Academy. But interesting to note the bolded, which tells you he's really high on 04 CF Maurice Kobanda There are a lot of interesting 04 CFs seems like he could be another one and less known since he doesn't play in U17, more like Keke Topp who are still in U16 due to older players playing, some clubs avoid players playing up their age group.
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    98-Barkok seems very close to comeback!!!
    +++ Real personnel news is not available this week: There are no new injuries. Markus Suttner and Aymen Barkok have been in the team training for quite some time and could return to Schalke on Schalke. +++

    +++ All failures for # S04F95 at a glance: Rensing, Wiesner, Wolf (all in advanced training), Karaman (pneumonia), Stöger (cruciate ligament rupture), Barkok, Suttner (questionable) +++
    https://www.f95.de/aktuell/news/pro...lke-beginnt/61011c53550aa504a4f93f13cc930ec7/
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    01-Tauer from Mainz U19 is out until next year.
    meanwhile 02-Reitz and 02 CF Harnafi are both back fit seems will make the squad for the 1st time this weekend.

    will be curious to see how Harnafi does in U19, did well in U17 last season and Gladbach U19 seems like they are basically playing false 9 as the other CF 01-Friebe is mostly a sub. Now seems like the only 02 CF of relevance left that's still injured is 02-Kramny of Stuttgart U19.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bayern YL.


    slick moves by 01-OBM on both the PK draws he drew. This season in youth levels.
    4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games between U19 Sud/Sudwest and YL. It's interesting to note he was productive in all the games save for 1 game where he was injured in 20th min vs Mainz U19. Get the feeling that he's a player that might require more time to the top due physicality.......And his long term injury last season likely doesn't help dev wise. But playing some U19 and getting some confidence boost isn't too bad and he did well in his last game for II.

    while 02-Tillman this season at
    12 goals and 2 assists in 15 games in all competition. Tillman seems like someone who could move up to 3rd Liga in Summer, assuming it's not earlier. I don't think he's a player with physicality issues.
     

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