ATTN: Sugarman - SELL THE TEAM

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  1. Dills

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    Philadelphia Union
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    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
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    #251 Dills, Jun 26, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2018
    Bowling alleys are the answer.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...asbury-park-condos-with-a-visit-from-the-boss

    But Sugarman kept the company’s property in Asbury Park, acquired more and set to work building a pair of townhouse projects and a boutique hotel. Today, it owns 35 acres (14 hectares) in the city and has spent more than $300 million on its efforts, which included reopening Asbury Lanes at the end of May.

    For the Lanes, iStar hired concert promoter the Bowery Presents to book national acts. Sugarman, who said his company is the world’s largest owner of bowling alleys, directed designers to fabricate a plexiglass wall at the end of the lanes so bowlers can watch the pin-setting machines in action.
     
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  2. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
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    We’re number 1 baby.
     
  3. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
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    I just hope someone brings this up next time he goes into one of his sob stories about spending on the first team.
     
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  4. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Southampton|PA
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    Henceforth I think we should refer to Jay as "Kingpin".

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  5. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
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    Philadelphia Union
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    I'm surprised that the marketing interns have yet to come up with this

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  6. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
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    y not us?

     
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  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
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    No one likes us?

    I dunno...I got nothing. Top 5 media market. Nice stadium. Good team facilities. excellent academy. Passionate fan base that will support a team that plays well and tries to win (i.e. signs players). Oh, and the fan base will spends gobs of money on merch for an exciting team.

    Yup....seems like a no brainer of an investment for some uber rich person.
     
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  8. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
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    I think this makes us the largest market team left without a Billionaire owner? Houston in our realm too, depends on how you measure things.
     
  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
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    It doesn't make sense. Plus there tons of corporate sponsorship opportunities for the team too. Better then some bigger markets honestly. With the rapid increase in MLS team valuations, it's as close to a sure bet as any investment right now. At least for sports teams.
     
  10. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
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    We have the chairman of the wrong star company apparently
     
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  11. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Southampton|PA
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    Downside is that all food at Bridgeview will be vegan.
     
  12. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
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    Why have a billionaire owner when you can have a … millionaire owner.
     
  13. EdBacon

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    Apr 6, 2015
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    Doesn't matter who wants to buy if Jay doesn't want to sell.
     
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  14. mattylip

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    This. What is the incentive for Sugarman to sell? He seems to be doing just fine financially. In my opinion, an MLS franchise is a "hold" not a "sell" at this point.
     
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  15. Ruud11

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    Dec 2, 2009
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    How about if someone makes a big PR campaign outlining all the reasons why Jay should sell the team and convince 99% of all fans of not showing up for 2 or 3 games. If the stadium is relative empty for 2-3 games then maybe he'll get the message.
     
  16. EdBacon

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    Apr 6, 2015
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  17. Yo-Joe

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    Oct 20, 2007
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    The "open letter" on Philly Soccer Page last season was pretty high profile among more-than-casual fans, although it wasn't nearly as ambitious as calling for a boycott. The letter prompted a written response from Sugarman, who seemed to take it seriously. Since then, expectations and demands from the fans seem to have evaporated as the possibility of a sale seems remote. I'm not sure what it will take to spark a serious protest movement.
     
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  18. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
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    Most people seem to wave the white flag and accept the shitty reality of the situation.
     
  19. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

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    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
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    I have 4 season tickets and pay about $45 per ticket per game. My friend has season tickets in Atlanta with virtually identical seats. He pays $63 per game this season. For next season, his seats will be $75 per ticket per game.

    Serious question for everyone: Would you be willing to pay $30 more per ticket per game (67% more to me which would be a total of $2,160 more per season going forward) for a team with the ambition of Atlanta rather than a team with the ambition of the Union?

    That would be a likely byproduct of Sugarman selling the team to an ownership group that is willing to spend more money.
     
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  20. Ruud11

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    Dec 2, 2009
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    YES! ATL have not only more ambition; they are much more exciting to watch! But they also sell per game circa 4x as many tickets as the Union do.
     
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  21. Cherry Hill SOB

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    Aug 30, 2012
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    "Serious question for everyone: Would you be willing to pay $30 more per ticket per game (67% more to me which would be a total of $2,160 more per season going forward) for a team with the ambition of Atlanta rather than a team with the ambition of the Union?"

    "YES! ATL have not only more ambition; they are much more exciting to watch! But they also sell per game circa 4x as many tickets as the Union do."

    Sounds like the difference between a team run by an investment firm v one run by a business owner.
     
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  22. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
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    Yes I would. Not renewing at any price without a change of owner.
     
  23. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Serious question for everyone:
    Does Stockholm syndrome help us understand the attitude of some Union fans?
     
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  24. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
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    It’s less Stockholm and more people convincing themselves they should just be happy to be here.
     
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  25. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    My rational is quite simple. I want Soccer to grow in this country. So, I will support the team as long as I can. It may be silly.

    In the early years of the Phillies or Eagles, there must have been bad teams that people supported. There must have been bad owners. I am taking the long view. It may turn out to be a bad bet but it is the only bet I have right now.
     

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