At last: The welcome Luka Modric Thread.

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Luka Modric is a RM player, what do you think?

Poll closed Sep 6, 2012.
  1. Just what we needed!!!

    58.1%
  2. He'll be ok, but i don't think he'll be a massive improvement to our squad.

    37.1%
  3. He's not good enough, i am dissapointed.

    4.8%
  1. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Don't beat yourself up over it dude. Plenty of people thought Modric was a flop when he first came to Madrid. Heck, the "marca poll" even had the fans calling him the worst signing the year he came. Yeah, all those people feel pretty dumb. Modric has been a crack for us since that wonder goal that knocked out Man Utd and sent SAF into retirement.
     
  2. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nah, when he was at Madrid I already realized his quality and didn't have doubts (although I didn't think he was going to be this good). But in the early Tottenham days he looked terribly awkward. He made strides, and I think Kovacic will follow his footsteps.
     
  3. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012
    In his early Tottenham days he played on the left wing. That was never going to work out..
     
  4. Y Nada Mas

    Y Nada Mas Red Card

    May 27, 2017
    How :( i dont get it

    He was magic at Tottenham
    He still is.and he is now one of the best midfielders that ever played for us

    He surely is no1 at this moment in the world
     
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  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He's the classic example of how having long term vision benefits you even if you have a winning team already. Many thought of him as a luxury signing when we had just won the league getting 100 points with 4-2-3-1 formation. Mou even struggled to integrate him to the starting XI and his highlight moment that season was scoring at OT coming on as a sub. Now he's helped us to 3 CL wins and we have the best midfield in the world.
     
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  6. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    Legend status achieved and a spot next to Redondo in Real Madrid's all time starting XI.

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  7. ratheesh7k

    ratheesh7k Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This...

    I used to wonder watching this lil fellow plays for Tottenham. He was amazing there and the difference in quality between him and other Tottenham midfielder were really visible.

    I think he was one of the best players in PL during his Tottenham days. Its that he had a slow start to his RM career.
     
  8. Payman

    Payman Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's all about Ronaldo these days, but I'm suprised nobody talked about Modric.
    I just read that he is under investigation for perjury?
     
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  9. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Morally not so fcked up as hiding 14 million from tax.
     
  10. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Jep.
     
  11. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    He lied under oath to protect crime boss Mamić who pulled substantial amount of money from Dinamo and at the same time commited tax fraud. We are talking about millions. Not to mention other influence of Mamić and his corruption also at NT level. He is protecting a well known criminal. How is that morally not so fcked up? It is even worse.

    Also we are talking about 6 months to 5 years if proven guilty.
     
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  12. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Can someone explain what the evidence they have against him? Is it because he retracted his original story Mamic?
     
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  13. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012
    Long story short:

    Mamic manages Dinamo Zagreb for the last 15 years or so.

    He had an agency that was under his brother's name and all players would sign for him when signing for Dinamo.

    If would start very early, usually at the age of 18 when they would sign a "citizen contract" with him (it's like a regular contract that is outside FIFA regulations but inside normal law in the country). That would tie them to him and from then on they are ********ed.

    When Modric moved to Spurs he signed a contract where half of the transfer fee would go to him (roughly 12 mil €) and later he took that money out of the bank as cash and gave it back to Mamic.

    Lovren, Kovacic and a lot of other players had similar contracts and similar situations and transfers.

    Player who decided not to sign with Mamic agency had issues getting out of the club (Muric, Mandzukic).

    Modric was called as a witness some time last year I think.

    Last week he changed his statement at the hearing.

    Now they are investigating him for perjury.

    The whole country is hating on him and the other players, but to be honest they were all victims here. Mamic got to them when they were just kids and tied them with those citizen contracts and from then on there's no way back.
     
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  14. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    He contradicted his previous statement given to USKOK - part of state attorney office.
     
  15. Payman

    Payman Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    So this could turn out real ugly? This transfer period turned took a bad turn real quick...
     
  16. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    6 months - 5 years if proven guilty.

    And at the moment it does not look good, because his latest testimony contradicts his previous.
     
  17. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Didn't he say "I don't remember" in his first testimony and then changed it? From a legal standpoint, he could say he simply remembered, can't he?

    I know this is ********ed up, but in the Balkans things aren't always as simple as "just testify", especially against someone powerful. They can ruin lives of many members of your family/friends.
     
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  18. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    No. He supposedly lied about the time when anex of contract was signed - which is significant.
     
  19. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This summer really needs to fecking end already, huh?
     
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  20. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012
    Come on guys, it was all too good to last any longer then it has. :D

    After the sun, comes the rain.
     
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  21. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Personally I am still celebrating the wins, we are Madrid, we have a strong talented core of players, we are linked to some of the best youngsters out there, I am confident that no matter what happens we are in a very good moment, the "team" is everything and we have a very strong one at the moment, so, no doom and gloom for me, just annoyance at some nonsense that's going on at the moment.
     
  22. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's better off not knowing what goes on off the pitch sometimes. As long as it does not affect their form, and we keep winning. Benz strangely was in fantastic form during the whole blackmail ordeal for example. The problem is when players get muy triste and make a drama of it.
     
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  23. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012
    Important update:

    The expert for this kind of stuff said tonight that nothing will happen to Modric. In Croatia people don't even get charged for perjury and it's actually near impossible to prove, and in those few cases that did go all the way it dragged on for years and was resolved with some kind of agreement between the parties.

    So basically Modric played the prosecutor. He didn't want to have any part in this (which is fine by me, considering Mamic is very likely being supported by certain people in our government and the president of our country is his bff), so they'll just have to find another way to get to him.

    Now the prosecutor ended up looking stupid so they are spinning it so people have someone else to blame.

    All in all, smart move by Modric. He'll get some heat and bad press for a month, his image will be affected forever, BUT he will have nothing more to do with all of this ever again. He's basically out of it now.

    Btw, a small correction from my first post; he signed his first contract with Mamic, the one they called "citizen contract" at the age of 14, and it's the usual crap with shady agents going something like this: "I find you a place to live in, I buy training gear and give you small allowance, and you sign a contract where you give me half of what you make until the end of your professional career"."


    Also, remember Eduardo Da Silva? I'm sure you all do. Here's something from 2010:

    http://arhiva.nacional.hr/en/clanak/50453/eduardo-still-mamics-slave

    NACIONAL reveal details of the secret contract signed by footballer Eduardo da Silva and Zdravko Mamic, according to which da Silva will be required to pay Mamic a large percentage of his earnings abroad until the end of his career
     
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  24. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    It would be standard here to "investigate" for perjury if there was a change in a witnesses statement on the date of trial. But whether charges are actually brought are a different matter.

    In any event, it is never good to give a witness statement and materially change it on the trial date. That is asking for all sorts of trouble. Far better to just refuse (I presume he did but then got a subpoena).
     
  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    People that smell their own farts judging Modric about whether or not he testified against one of the most powerful men in the country. Complicated issue, but a lot of tap dancing is allowed when dealing with the well being of your family.
     

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