Re: Asian Cup 2011 neh. not a good night for me. studying all night/morning for brutal accounting and moderating the forum the whole night
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Yep, and maybe this means that Qu Bo will be taken off the wing and used in that position too. Or Hao as lone striker if Gao's insane/desperate. Maybe its just me and I have 2007 stuck in my head (or I'm just overtired having not slept at all to stay up for the 4 am disaster at the hands of that Korean midget), but I wouldn't be upset if Mao Jianqing was called into the lineup and played as lone striker.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 please dun remind me of 2007 gao hongbo isn't = zhu guanghu i still remember when china was 3-0 down from uzbekistan he changed the remaining attacking players to defensive players.. i trust gao isn't as dumb as zhu.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 off topic wise: yes man utd is having a strong advantage with 2 points top (and extra match not played) it is mid season now and it is pretty difficult to say what will happen. man utd gonna visit chelsea next week and i could sense a bloody battle, as long as man utd continue to draw (and lose please, dear god) and arsenal capitalizing points on other teams, there's still an outside chance for arsenal to achieve a premier league title this season, there isn't really a big 4, it is more like a big 6 man city, tottenham, bolton could be title contenders too. (sorry liverpool i am not counting you) heck, i would be happy if arsenal win the carling cup, but i believe there are many arsenal supporters outside there that would wish for more..
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Do you still remember China going up 2-0 only to draw 2-2 against Iran? I thought that was the real momentum killer for AC 2007.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Yup. China's 2007 campaign was pretty much marred by an inability to finish off games. I really hope they can buckle down defensively while actually finishing some of the chances they get. This will be a tough AC for sure I think. SK will have a strong squad as usual; Good old Parkie is in excellent form for United which means he will likely be brimming with confidence for the NT. Japan are a confident strong squad too. Lets not forget that a Middle East hosted AC will advantage the West Asian teams like home games too.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 I was tired so the 2007 point was unclear, I just mean the magic of Mao that took placed in 2007, nothing else, obviously overall that was a horrible tournament worth forgetting. This year's going to be tough, we all just want to see China advance out of the group stage, but if they can win the group, that would be huge as it could mean we entirely avoid Japan/Korea until the finals, whereas if we finish 2nd in the group, its quite possible that we'd take on Japan in our next match.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Is it just that there are so few Asians in the EPL (which is what I usually follow), but I haven't seen many stories about managers complaining about losing their players for this. The event had to be moved to the winter for the criminally corrupt Qataris because they don't have their environment killing air conditioned stadiums built yet and it seems surprising there aren't more managers pissed off about this.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 They think it's the Asian Cup of Nations. If Chelsea must lose Drogba and Kalou, then Bolton has no problem losing Lee Chung-Yong.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Well, Sir Alex seems to be indicating that Park will be sorely missed in his absence. I mean, Park has definitely been one of our MVPs of the year so far; which is funny because everyone in the United forum likes to rip on him in the player ratings after every match even if he scores/assists.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 I havent tracked the Chinese national team since that whole WC10 debacle, do we actually have a decent pool of players this time around? I know we won the East Asian Cup against B and C teams, but does China finally have a better system of bringing up younger players? And does anyone know where I can get episodes of the tv shows on CCTV5 (if they are still running) i think it was called FOOTBALL TONIGHT and I used to watch it for news on the national team camps and preparations. Please PM me if you know where I can grab it online.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 "Decent" pool of young players with potential? Sure, I would argue we've always looked to have had a surplus of those. A better system of bringing them and their potential to full fruition? Sadly, that remains to be seen methinks..
Re: Asian Cup 2011 We're only talking about 2 and a half years ago, not enough time for real systemic change. There is an attitude around here of "In Gao We Trust" and Gao's done a good job bringing a lot of young players into the national team and giving them a chance, very few of the players that took part in the qualifying are still in the squad today. That's about all you can ask for in 2 years.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 so... pretty much a hopeless case... after wc 02 and ac 04 I was truly thinking China may squeeze into the 2006 WC, it wasnt meant to be with a loss in Kuwait and unlucky results elsewhere. In ac 07 I thought we had a young but inexperienced squad with potential and that group stage would serve as motivation.... then 08 olympics and 10 wcq happened... Now you look across at Japan and Korea where their top players are starters on European clubs playing in continental competitions... I dont think there is anyone on a decent team in a top tier league. I remembers years ago when I first signed up I had arguments with others here about player development in the US and China, now it doesnt even seem close! Well I will be watching AC11, see how the team is doing, hell if Iraq can win it with a patched up team then anyone with some team spirit may have a chance....
Re: Asian Cup 2011 With all the corruption stuff going on, not surprising soccer has not gone anywhere since WC02. Now that we've finally put it behind us, maybe we can start up again, starting with AC11.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 It's not hopeless at all. China failed to build off Milu's success in 2002 because they couldn't find any coaches that worked, mainly because (a lot like Guoan now) they refused to pay the going rate for top coaches, so they got mediocre or downright crappy (Zhu Guanghu stand up) coaches instead. The '07 roster was hardly young and inexperienced (hell, it included Li Tie, Datou, Sun Jihai, Shao, ZZ, etc.), what you're seeing this year is truly a young and inexperienced roster with a lot of potential. Feng's out, which is a real tragedy for him as this tournament could have been his path to Europe, but we still have a number of good players on the field. If Gao's the coach we think/hope he is, and if Blazevic is as good as we hope he is, then there's still hope for a good future. There aren't that many Japanese/Koreans playing in top leagues in Europe, if our side performs well at the AC, and especially if we can get our FIFA ranking up, there will be a number of Chinese playing in England and across Europe.
Re: Asian Cup 2011 Feng Xiaoting out of AC2011 due to injury: http://sports.sina.com.cn/n/2010-12-22/03175376932.shtml
Re: Asian Cup 2011 argh fcukk now i doubt china could get through group stage not only we are lacking in strikers we also lack in good quality defenders too
Re: Asian Cup 2011 when did he play in a game last anyway? He's gonna miss the friendly tonight. Is he even going to be match fit...