Arsenal vs Brighton. Premier League. December 5th, 2019.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by MilesW, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arsenal, riding a 1 match unbeaten streak, head back home to the Emirates Stadium to take on a world class Brighton team. Brighton have won their last 2 games (that's allowed!?) and are only 4 points behind Arsenal and in 16th place.

    Time- 215 CENTRAL, 315 EASTERN

    Channel- NBC Sports

    Main talking point- Will Mustafi start again?

    Highlights from the last meeting


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  2. total_football

    total_football Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Time to start Martinelli for Laca. Pepe and Ozil as well.
    Chambers and Holding at CB
    Tierney and Bellerin at FBs
    Willock in MF as box god box , the Uruguayan as DMid

    4-2-3-1
     
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  3. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leno
    BellerinChambersHoldingTierney
    Willock Torreira
    Ozil
    Pepe Auba Martinelli
     
  4. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't wait to see Glenn Murray have his way with us.
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't forget that Brighton just locked up their new wizard-like manager Mr.Potter to a +2 year contract extension. After only 6 months on the job no less.
     
  6. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On today's Arsecast, Andrew suggested his preferred line-up right now, which would be a 4-2-3-1 (which I have to say is also the formation I find myself going to when I try to figure out our jigsaw). But specifically here's what he wants to see:

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers-Luiz-Tierney
    Xhaka*-Torreira
    Pepe-Ozil-Martinelli
    Auba

    *However a few mins later he was defending Guendouzi against Xhaka, but perhaps not to the point of amending his line-up.

    So my question: Is there anything really way wrong with Andrew's XI?

    - Sokratis & Mustafi are benched in favor of Chambers... those 2 haven't exactly covered themselves in glory of late
    - And Holding is left out, presumably because of fitness (he wasn't even in our squad yesterday)
    - Pepe is included I guess because of his assets which we've discussed in other threads, overlooking any implied training problems he's had
    - Laca being benched is perhaps the most truly controversial, debatable decision? But for me I understand it
     
  7. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like that lineup. Question- Would Luiz in midfield, maybe alongside Torreira, be THAT much different than Xhaka? Both slow footed, poor defenders that can make long passes? If anything Luiz seems stronger on the the ball/less likely to be muscled off. But I guess that would basically be a back 3, unless torreira covered the back 4 and Luiz pushed up a bit?

    Leno
    Bellerin Chambers Holding Tierney
    -----------------------Torreira
    ----------------Luiz
    -------------------Ozil
    Pepe----------------------------Martinelli
    ---------------Auba
    .
     
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  8. total_football

    total_football Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Freddie basically admitting about the lack of foot speed and athleticism that is basically killing us in defense

    on whether criticism of defence is justified...
    No, I think my players try to defend. Of course you can have different types of players in the squad. That's just a fact, that you have different types of players. We've had a gameplan we've tried to execute and I want to defend. Of course we need to try to find solutions. If players are not super quick and we say, 'You've got to sprint for this or that', that's going to be difficult for that player. In general terms, we try to put out a structure so that everybody knows what to do. The main thing I saw in the game is that we let them get into situations where it was just a sprint. It was not about football or technical stuff, they just went in a competitive sprint with our player. We want to stop that.”
     
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  9. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    United States
    Clive on the Arsenal Vision podcast has harped about this for over a year now. He points out that Henderson, Milner, and Wijnaldum aren't technicians -- they're runners/sprinters.
     
  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's somewhat right (they're all somewhat skilled). But this works because TAA is skilled enough to be an integral part of Liverpool's attack, and because their three forwards are all top 15 players.
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    With results today, we're down to 10th.

    We could obviously use a win here.
     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for that spoiler. :p
     
  13. cooper7d7

    cooper7d7 Member

    Feb 7, 2001
    CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So this match is supposed to be available on Amazon Prime Video. Is that true for the UK only?
     
  14. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
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    United States
    I don't even see the EPL listed on Amazon video, so it seems so.
     
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  15. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    #15 NorthBank, Dec 5, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2019
    I'm no expert but when I heard about Amazon buying EPL rights, I recall it was for UK only.

    If you can't watch it on NBCSN there's always Livesoccertv.com?

    p.s. For NBCSN, my guide says the match coverage starts at 2:30, so I wonder if they're gonna show the first half of SUFC-NUFC before switching over to the KO of our game at 3:15?
     
  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Just saw that Bellerin has had a tight hamstring so he's iffy. And Holding is supposedly ruled out (presumably b/c of knee) but for some reason he's not been showing up on our Team News page. But Dani is listed there and will not be in the squad.
     
  17. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
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    Methinks this is just gonna be our slogan the rest of the campaign.
     
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  18. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably just talk for 45 minutes
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC


    Mustafi played his way out of the 18, Willock somehow didn't, Tierney still planted on the bench, ditto Pepe.

    Happy to see Torreira, baffled to see Xhaka.
     
  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Happy to see Mustafi out, Torreira in. And Bellerin... that's a pleasant surprise! (pray for his hammie)
    Not sure what I think about Willock in the XI
    Obviously the idea of dropping Laca wasn't really in the cards

    p.s. Apparently they are going to show the Sheffield-Newcastle match when it starts at 2:30 and then cut away after 40 mins. I guess that's better than 45 mins of talking heads.:p
     
  21. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is this a 4-4-2 diamond, 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-3 with Ozil on the wing?
     
  22. MisplacedSpainard

    Apr 5, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #22 MisplacedSpainard, Dec 5, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2019
    I suspect Ozil on the wing like with Germany.

    My Crystal ball says willock and Laca gets subbed when we arent penetrating enough and Martinelli and Pepe come in. Moving Auba inside and Ozil center with the subs on the wings. Bar any injuries, unexpected cards...

    The trick is cracking the first goal otherwise this team can be hard to break down.
     
  23. MisplacedSpainard

    Apr 5, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Anyone watching? Im at work :(
     
  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think we've gotten worse.
     
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  25. MisplacedSpainard

    Apr 5, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Well this is a much more drilled team we are facing. So in theory until the basics are done well and the formation chemistry is built up we will still look bad imo.

    Not to mension we have to build confidence and break the streak.
     

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