Argentina: Dejo De Ser Potencia Mundial?

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  1. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Like in all team sports, no team stays on top forever. Some come back to create new dynasties, and some come back sooner than others. Argentina has enjoyed an excellent generation which had more than enough talent to win cups. It didn't. Brazil had its own harvest of solid players from the late 1990s to the mid-late 2000s and we won a number of cups.
     
  2. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Sure, I hear you. And I can believe you have predicted the semifinals of World Cups correctly. All I'm saying is that based on the only prediction I saw you make on this website - a categorical Argentine destruction of Chile in Santiago, which as we all know did not occur - I've not seen any reason to take your predictions seriously. If anything, your predictions seem fueled more by emotion and passion; more specifically, anger against the Chileans.
     
  3. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    antes hay que ganar 4 fechas de eliminatorias en 2015

    moreover, your bet should rank the 12 points in dispute before december 2015

    brazil y argentina at least 9
    chile y colombia at leats 7- uruguay y peru o paraguay 5? is too hard to predict second runners, but top 2 are always the same super powers of the area
     
  4. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    mute point in this thread
     
  5. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Here is a prediction;
    The CONMEBOL qualifiers are going to be as following: Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Uruguay.
    The Fifth team (via playoff) will be fought between Chile, Ecuador and Paraguay, with Chile the favorite to win it.

    Can you disagree with this assessment?
     
  6. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    facil de analizar: los dos primeros
    pero no podes descalificar a peru de gareca o al venezuela de sanvicente, esos dos le quitaran muchos puntos a chile o colombia y mas aun a Paraguay, si piensan que con la copa llena de iregulares arbitrajes se la creen. son un buen equipo y tinen que salir a revalidar su condicion de CAMPEONES DE AMERICA EN cada fecha. Uruguay?
     
  7. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ok. Come back to this post in 2018.
     
  8. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    My team and yours atop the table isn't that hard to predict.

    Colombia is in great form and Uruguay is always tough. But Chile just won the continental tournament. Paraguay is a darkhorse at the moment - the only team which was clearly better than them at the Copa was Argentina. Uruguay and Brazil couldn't beat them in regulation. Ecuador did make it to the last World Cup.

    It's simply your prediction, one which might be right - and one which could be utterly wrong outside Brazil and Argentina.
     
  9. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Too early to give any call about what is going to happen, after the first 4 qualifier games, as we don't even know whom will be playing against whom, or where are they actually going to get played.

    Both Brazil and Argentina, despite the superiority they have shown in overall qualifier results in the past, if they get to be play as a visiting side, against both Ecuador and Bolivia, against whom they both have lots of trouble playing at Quito and La Paz, respectively, they are not going to get more than 1 point on each game (fact is, if the draw puts them in this condition against anyone, very few will come out of it with much points at all). Same if it happens that the first opponents, playing at home are against the current top teams of our confed.

    All I can say about them before the draw actually happens, is that they are not going to be easy for no one. Not playing at home, and not playing as visitors. Those who used to be the stronger teams in the past, aren't currently playing at their top level, while at the same time, those who used to be among the weakest teams, now are playing lots better than before.

    These qualifiers will be lots tougher than whatever they were before. For everyone the same, with no exceptions.
    :cautious:
     
  10. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    4 fechas para analizar
    pero por historia legendaria y camiseta no se puede pensar en 2018

    el futbol es de presentes y las distancias estan demasiado cortas
    colombia no le mete un gol a peru y menos a venezuela ultimamente - y lo tenes de favorito?

    tag that comment for 2018
     
  11. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    QUe lata que haya gente que diga que CHile fue campeon por los arbitrajes. A un equipo que le anulan 3 goles legitimos -dos de ellos en un mismo partido- no creo que sea por ayuda. Realmente vergonzoso.
     
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  12. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    and thats why this thread is about, when the powerhouses have a drop in results for quite sometime and their squads are not what they used to be then we can start questioning their "powerhouse" title

    Now you cant expect Argentina to win the same amount of titles as that Brazilian team because on paper the Brazilian squad was way more talented
    Just look at that run 94 winners 98 runner up 2002 (is important to note that 2006 Brazil didnt reach further not because lack of talent but because of overconfidence because of that record of 3 world cup finals in a row, on top of that the hegemony in copa america.

    Argentina have a great squad but not close to that specific Brazilian squad, so expecting argentina to perform just as close as that Brazilian squad is not fair.
     
  13. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    [​IMG]

    Move on
     
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  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Independientemente de todo el único equipo que fue sólido y regular con su juego fue Chile , ganó 4 de sus 6 paridos ...distribuyó sus goles a lo largo de sus partidos

    Por fútbol fue el único equipo que termino de convencer
     
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  15. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Se llama tener envidia y resentimiento. Es como decir que un equipo solo fue lejos en un torneo porque les toco puro rivales fáciles. Esa critica no vale. Logros son logros y los partidos hay que jugarlos.
     
  16. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    suena como si uds - estan tratando de convencerse asi mismos

    :sick:
     
  17. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Not even close to what Jara did. And DON'T FORGET THE DIVE JOB AFTERWARDS THAT GOT CAVANI KICKED OUT

    [​IMG]



    And afterwards Jara got up and pretended that he was upset for getting hit. That is some disgusting display of un-sportsman action. Absolutely disgusting
     
  18. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Cavani should have been red carded for chest bumping the linesman.

    Move on.
     
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  19. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Nada que ver.

    Como dije antes usted parece ser uno de esos envidiosos. Durante el torneo te dedicaste en puro ensuciar el logro de Chile con tus memes.

    Es solo una observación, nada mas.
     
  20. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't know if many people would have been able to keep their cool at that point. Its was more like tv wrestling (the ref doesn't see the bad guys doing something and then the good guy gest punished) rather than football.

    Regardless, sticking to the point in this thread, can anyone make the case that Argentina has lost status as a powerhouse? 'cause I can make the case for Argentina
     
  21. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I've been watching footy for a long time. The way Uruguay plays does not make them "good guys"
    How they react when losing also doesn't make them "good guys"

    Back to the topic: I for one think that Argentina remains a powerhouse and that Messi is one of the best in the world. Which makes beating a team like Argentina that much better.
     
  22. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    no eran memes mios

    era un sentimiento de la prensa suramericana

    solo ese detallito pak quede clarito
     
  23. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    cual sentimiento de la prensa??? Sera La prensa amarillista....

    Pon links donde la prensa digan que fue un robo la copa america.
     
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  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ademas como la prensa seria se dedica a hacer memes.
     
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  25. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake

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