Argentina : Copa America 2019 discussion

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by Rattlehead, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Telemundo will be airing it.
     
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  2. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I used to have that channel, but, not now. :(
     
  3. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Any working streaming site? none of the local channels would be airing this tournament, they only care on European team matches. There's always some on rojadirecta with shitty quality though.
     
  4. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I use this

    https://www.stream2watch.ws/watch/

    I think the streams are good with a list of streams of different commentary languages, but there some external pop-ups that you have to click X on.
     
  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    THx, I just tried but it asked me to install an app...
     
  6. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Oh really? You don't have to install, create an account or do anything for this site (just click on some X and delete pop-ups). If you scroll down after you click on the Brazil vs Bolivia link, you will find a list of streams like this.

    https://www.stream2watch.ws/live/brazil-vs-bolivia

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  7. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What could possibly go wrong if you did that?!

    Okay, I looked at networks in your neck of the woods and in Indonesia, it appears it will be shown on something called K-Vision.
     
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  8. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bolivia had nothing to lose, yet they just watching and defending without trying to attack in number when they won in Brazil’s half. Expected result from this game, Brazil looking fast on the left flank.
     
  9. DTCrackheads

    DTCrackheads Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Mar 9, 2019
    You can find perfect streams on reddit soccer streams.

    We will have a better team if De Paul starts and ADM comes in as a supersub in the the 60-70th minute.

    Pereyra or Guido can come on instead if we are protecting a lead.

    De Paul will show everyone he is the real deal in this tournament as long as he gets a chance. I'm really high on this guy. He can track back and win the ball as well as create offense from the left. Exactly what we are missing.

    With Lo Celso and Messi on the right, well, let's get this thing started!!
     
  10. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Nevermind, I've finally found a good local streaming, hopefully its working well for the rest of the tournament. These days I prefer De Paul over ADM in starting place . ADM at this point would be better as supersub and we should really build a team for next year tournament at home and for next WC cycle... we just cant rely on ADM for eternity.

    If Lo Celso putting a great performance, we should be able to maintain the ball longer and having more control in midfield without Messi having to drop deep , thus we're not exactly need ADM to crosses the ball 100 x.
     
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  11. Milwaukee Joe

    Milwaukee Joe Member

    Jun 23, 2018
    Anyone know why Sergio Romero isn't in the squad, or Pavon, what's happened to him, i haven't been keeping up to date on things recently. I notice Icardi hasn't made the squad either, is this because of team politics? And what about Garay, who is in my opinion Argentina's best CB.

    I'm very upset to see ADM in the team, I don't rate him particularly highly, I would prefer to bring in somebody new, somebody who'\s better at linking up with his teammates.

    Also, I don't feel Messi's a leader. He plays for a powerful club in Spain and most things are easy for him, but for Argentina you need more balls to be leader in my opinion. The biggest mistake Argentina made was giving him the captaincy, even though he's clearly the best player.

    Scaloni? What are people's thoughts on him? Vamos Argentina.
     
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  12. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pavon has been in poor form since the last World Cup. Rumors are he's going to rejoin Guillermo in LA Galaxy, which is a sign how far he's fallen. His decision making has just been really bad outside of a goal here or there he's scored in this stretch.
     
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  13. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    -Romero is a sub for his club and IMO it's fair to move on from him. Walter Benitez is the bigger question mark.
    -Icardi had issues at Inter and wasn't playing for a while, when he came back he was terribly off form. For someone so divisive like him, you sort of have to be sure that what he brings completely off sets his effect on others, and then some.
    -Pavon hasn't been playing well. Papu Gomez and Joaquin Correa are bigger question marks.
    -I don't what's the deal with Garay being off the team nowadays, that one's a head scratcher.
    -Di Maria has been better than the new guys unfortunately, even much better. Arguably PSG's best player since the turn of the year.
    -Wearing the captain's armband is quite ceremonial e.g Hazard, Kane, Iniesta (last season) and several others. Even going back down the years, Raul, Beckham and Del Piero were not exactly "captain material" the way we conventionally think (Puyol, Gerrard, Hierro, Dunga, Zanetti, Simeone) but leaders within the team always stepped up a la Mascherano.
     
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  14. Milwaukee Joe

    Milwaukee Joe Member

    Jun 23, 2018
    #139 Milwaukee Joe, Jun 15, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2019
    Thanks for your answers. If you would bring in Gomez, Correa and Benitez, who would you have left out in order to make space for them?

    Who was that DM who played in Germany that everyone was excited about a year ago? Young guy. How's he doing nowadays?

    Also, is Palacios in the squad or is he injured?
     
  15. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I'd have Papu Gomez or Correa for Suarez.
    And Benitez for Merchesin

    You are talking about Ascacibar? I didn't watch much of him tbh, but by all accounts he was playing decently enough. He had a terrible incident in Germany, that resulted in a six week ban.

    Palacios is indeed injured.
     
  16. Milwaukee Joe

    Milwaukee Joe Member

    Jun 23, 2018
    That's him. I think he is very highly rated, and there has been talk of a move to a big club in a big league, but I haven't seen him play.
     
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  17. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #142 Albiceleste2010, Jun 15, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2019
    Should have been in from the start with Benitez. Players must always be picked on form.

    I have doubts about the balance of our midfield. Despite the changes in tactics in midfield it is really quite simply about winning the ball before being able to do anything with it. Which is why I prefer Asascibar over anyone Scaloni thinks is preferable.

    Regarding SM's point about our defenders aside from Perez and Romero there is Foyth and Balerdi. We need ball playing defenders to be able to launch swift counter attacks as the centre of pressing advances ever further up the pitch or drag the front defenders out of position. Being converted so to speak DMs they are so so comfortable on the ball. We really have a golden generation if they reach their potential. What is concerning is the lack of creativity in the younger generation and the lack of laterals.

    Its a pretty simple system. de Paul to work back with Tagliafico pretty much a stay at home defender. Santi to cover Saravia (to overlap with Leo) while Foyth when required brings the ball into midfield with Pezzella also staying at home. A mobile midfield with a fluid three and four. All in a free role with Kun dropping into midfield and Lo Celso, Messi, Palacios (with a defensive role working back) and de Paul going beyond or into the centre.


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  18. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'm not expecting anything but as ever Vamos Argentina.
     
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  19. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Some superb defending and dribble by Lo Celso.
     
  20. Amuseddaysleeper

    Jul 8, 2014
    We need to do more than just hoof the ball up the pitch to Aguero who is covered by the much taller Mina
     
  21. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yea Aguero has been too isolated upfront.
     
  22. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    I have never seen Di Maria so lethargic. Normally, even if he is messing up, he shows energy.

    Not sure what is going on with him.

    No real build-up to our play.
     
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  23. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Sloppy play
    Armani with the retarded pass
    And Colombians rolling around every possession :/
     
  24. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    We can’t even get to the Colombia penalty area for Messi/Aguero to even threaten.
     
  25. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We're too defensive. I wonder if Scolani just decided to suck up preasure from Colombia in first half... Di Maria has been useless, not because he mess up his play but doesnt seems to fit the setup. He just look disjointed from the rest.

    If Messi still just roaming in midfield, we might just replace Di Maria and put Lautaro's in. Lo Celso and Tagliafico has been the best so far.


    This has been how Scolani's team play during friendlies. He's playing it too safe especially for group stage games. We avoided going forward in number even when we should have.
     

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