AOC = HRC 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Deadtigers, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I made an accusation? I have been nothing but polite. I have learned the errors of my ways.
     
  2. LastBoyscout

    LastBoyscout Member+

    Mar 6, 2013
    It's funny the US is currently spending about twice as much (in therms of % of GDP) on Healthcare than any other western country. Even those socialist Northern European countries. Seems to me your healthcare system is more expensive than anybody elses already and extremley inefficient.

    Why's that?
     
  3. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I didn't say we were doing healthcare right. I said the quality is the best and the system is FUBAR.
     
  4. LastBoyscout

    LastBoyscout Member+

    Mar 6, 2013
    How do you measure quality? On "average" or for the top ~10%. Because I'm sure you're gonna loose that "average quality" bit to quite a few other countries.
     
  5. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I'd say it is comfort. Are you comfortable that your surgery won't be botched? I am sure that American outcomes beat Europe any day. But you are comparing apples to oranges because the books are cooked. So how do you measure it?
     
  6. LastBoyscout

    LastBoyscout Member+

    Mar 6, 2013
    So basically you believing in it it makes it true? Quite the approach. But I think we are done here. Not interested in a non factual debate.
     
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  7. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Que? When I go into major surgery I want a positive outcome And if my insurance doesn't cover the costs I get upset, but go on with life.

    You are not really a boy scout, are you?
     
  8. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Unless you're a woman giving birth, in which case you're far more likely to die than any other developed country. And if you're a minority woman...oh boy. Just to pull one example out
     
  9. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I just paid $150 to have a doctor come to my hotel room, examine my wife for 30 minutes, and write up her case. Then another $150 for half a dozen X-Rays, which the doctor evaluated. The doctor was from a private hospital, which was where the X-Rays were taken.

    You think that happened in the U.S.?
     
  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Colombia
    I don't know why you keep arguing with the fish. He's devoid of logic, memory and the ability to distinguish fact from talking points. He pretends to be IC when in reality he's just 5 degrees from RWNJ and even when he has a grasp of the issue, he chooses to argue on bad faith to troll all of you libruls... Don't fall into conversations that lead nowhere and that teach nothing to anyone in it, not to mention that it triggers notifications on a thread that could be used for valuable information.
     
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  11. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Quite possibly the funniest thing I’ve ever read on this forum.
     
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  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not if you have him (or any poster) on ignore.
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    I am sure access is a right, is expensive but the government won't deny you the right to purchase health insurance.
     
  14. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It still notifies you when people replies to ignored content...
     
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  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    No, there is nothing in the Constitution or statutes that guarantees the "right" to health coverage (insurance or health care).

    The ACA was designed to provide access to more people, but it was not "universal," as there were many exceptions/exemptions from the coverage.
     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am pretty sure that is the government told you that you are not allowed to purchase health insurance, you could sue them and win, maybe under persuit of happiness.
     
  17. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    And you just can't resist because....?
     
  18. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    That might be true if you're wealthy. If you're working class or rural, I very strongly suspect that we're not in the top half of the world, let alone the global north.
     
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    What's with your new avatar? Did you lose a bet? Are you trying to incentive the Invisible Hand to stop killing gay people for fun?
     
  20. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    It's fun. :)
     
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  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What is with this "bet" thing? I'd say that says some interesting things about the interrogator.

    Most importantly, however, is this question: why the ******** do you care?
     
  22. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    #1772 Q*bert Jones III, May 20, 2019
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    You just seem like about the last person on earth to have an avatar of inclusiveness. {Mod edit: personal attacks were just re-stated as not being tolerated.}
     
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  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    "The kinder, gentler side of Timon nananana19

    19"
     
  24. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering why you chose that one, too. Just seems like an odd choice, not along the lines of what it seems like you would choose. But I'm asking rather than making an assumption.
     
  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Why is it odd?
     

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