AOC = HRC 2.0

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  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    Yes, that's exactly what he said.
     
  2. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It kinda seems that way, since the #MeToo movement is about reporting sexual assaults. Me, too. Right?
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    The question is more, is MeToo an issue that helps Democrats? Is it partisan?
     
  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    I'm sure it seems that way to you, because a poster that isn't well-liked here expressed a non-standard opinion on it.
     
  5. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    #metoo being championed by the same people that chastise those that didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton is exactly why we are where we are.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Are you saying the election of 2016 was affected but things that happened afterward? That’s not how time works.
     
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  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    ICs who think bothsides are the same & waste their votes on douchebags is why we're virtually a banana republic now
     
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  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    I think the point is Bill Clinton's behavior towards women was less than stellar, and the possibility that Hillary enabled it in the 90s lends a taint to her record.

    That something like this claim was brought up by Donald Trump during the campaign with virtual impunity was surprising at the time, but isn't now.
     
  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    So you’re saying stanger’s “here” isn’t the Trump presidency, but something else.

    Maybe. If so, I hope he’ll let us know.
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Duh! Now it's so obvious that she was scouting out the ho stroll in Little Rock and then DC. How did we all miss that?
     
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  11. luftmensch

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    How did I know it would all come back to the Clintons?
     
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  12. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    No you don’t.

    Look at the comments. There is no discussion in here if the opinions go against the majority.

    This place is for stupid jokes, not actual discussion.
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    As far as I can tell, a Republican who's willing to have an actual good faith discussion is rarer than a hen's cock.

    At least we have the stupid jokes.
     
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  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Maybe you should just try non-democrats then. Or is the goal to push out all of those that don't agree with you?
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Why is it crazy if the #metoo "favors" Democrats?

    I am not saying I agree that it does or not

    I am asking why it is "crazy" if it does?

    I have ideas about the subject but am interested to learn yours.
     
  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    This discussion is wacked. Stopping sexual assaults can't be all that good because Democrats are for it. Jesus H. Christ.
     
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    I don't think that was the point.
    I think, but am not sure, that @stanger 's point was the opposite*, which was why I asked him the question about what he meant.

    *I suspected his point was that stopping sexual assault should be a good thing all around, it should not be a "win" for either political party. It should be beyond politics.
     
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  18. stanger

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    Stopping sexual assaults should be the goal for everyone.

    Saying Democrats are "for" stopping sexual assault, or that #metoo "favors" Democrats is a joke considering you last presidential nominee, the one you all say everyone should have voted for, has been a sexual assault enabler for her entire political career.

    Jesus H. Christ is right.
     
  19. stanger

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    Which is correct. It should be beyond politics but it isn't because of who both parties continue to foist upon us.
     
  20. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

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    Yes, that's exactly what the discussion is saying. Exactly. You continue to nail it.
     
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  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    I am constantly surprised at how certain posters words are twisted.

    Check that, I used to be surprised. [emoji849]
     
  22. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    So you admit you favor sexual assault?

    winky thing
     
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  23. luftmensch

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    Your initial post was extremely brief and easy to read into, maybe better to explain your point clearly the first time, like you finally did a few posts above.

    Though this whole thing of calling Hillary Clinton a "sexual assault enabler" always struck me as just another version of blaming the woman. What do you think she should have done differently, especially considering the allegations all date back to before she even had a political career?
     
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  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    This article from VOX is pretty enlightening.

    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/1797...nterview-bill-clinton-sexual-misconduct-metoo

    Considering the fact that there were allegations against an employee of her 2008 campaign and she didn't fire him, and then while working on her 2016 campaign through an affiliated group he was finally let go after more allegations of sexual harassment, she isn't exactly a poster child for working against sexual harassment in the workplace.

    My opinion is that she stayed with Bill to further her career, fully cognizant of the fact that Bill was a serial abuser.

    In other words, a horrible person.
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

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    I think it only favors Democrats to the extent that some voters might recognize that Democrats behaved more responsibly than Republicans in the face of accusations against one of their own, which is true. That may be countered by arguing that Democrats only behaved better out of expediency. (ie, because feminists and women in general are one of their bases, or because they knew those they forced to resign would be replaced by other Democrats).

    Looking both at political figures, generous donors, celebrities etc who faced the wrath of the #metoo movement, it doesn't seem to be partisan in terms who is being accused. Plenty of powerful people were brought down, or discredited, regardless of party affiliation. And we can't bring up Clinton as a counter argument, because it was obviously another era, and I expect he would have been judged differently today, thanks to the #metoo movement's impact.
     

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