News: Another attack on free speech

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Mr. Conspiracy, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    You should focus more on the middle east than the US.
     
  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    Yep.

    Silicon Valley is way more aligned to being good stooges of the government than our German friends suppose. They're spineless "defenders" of free speech. Only speech they don't dislike gets defense.
     
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  3. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

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    There is no such thing as worldwide 21st century standards. Just look at the standards some of the recent refugees in Germany, Sweden, etc... have for women. Look at the standard for just about anything in the Middle East and North Africa. IMHO freedom of speech is a more advanced standard that government censorship. It is Germany that need to bring itself to the 21st century. The US, with a pretty racist past, and almost complete freedom of speech, managed to elect and African American president. Surely the enlightened Germans could manage to live with freedom of speech.

    Also, something unpleasant or illegal comment is bound to get through, which just mean fines and lawsuits. Germany may not be worth the effort.
     
  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    In general, yes. In terms of freedom of speech no. Comparable to your take on the metric system.

    But hey, facebook with their market power should be keen on implementing 21st century standards just because of their corporate social responsibility. They would do well and most likely contribute to turning the US into a less violent place.
     
  5. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    You're a bit late to this discussion but perhaps you can take the time and go back in this thread to see that several of your countrymen failed to understand 21st century standards and to this day still do. And it showed in this, your current election campaign.
     
  6. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Hey, how many right-wing attacks against migrants have occurred in the last 365 days in Germany?

    That moral high ground you occupy doesn't exist. Stop pretending it does.
     
  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    One thing we can see very clear these days:

    If the constitution and criminal code would be up to date, the guy inciting to hatred on twitter and elsewhere would be in prison by now. 21st century - but not in the US unfortunately. And we havent even started talking about the hate crimes resulting from this. You could talk about and try to solve it but you and others are evidently still in denial there is a problem in the first place.
     
  8. ElJefe

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    Silicon Valley is often a very silly place full of self-contradiction and hypocrisy.
     
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Sudžuka

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    804284590487719936 is not a valid tweet id
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    Not a free speech issue, this is a corporate decision.
     
  12. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    It's a leftist/communist platform's youth/cultural center. Shouldnt stop him from performing anywhere else in Leipzig.
     
  13. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    BUMP

    18th century decided it wants to learn it the hard way

    Brussels says murican companies are not acting according to code of conduct on hate speech, "act swiftly or new laws will force you to react faster"
    https://www.ft.com/content/b3163cca-ba32-11e6-8b45-b8b81dd5d080
     
  14. ceezmad

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    Oh, they will react, just like when China comes asking for logs on dissidents, when the corporations think their profits are going to take a hit, they comply with the government most of the time, be it the EU or China.
     
  15. Sudžuka

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    Potentially get in trouble for saying mean things about Israel in school

    Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr. (D-Pa.) and Republican Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) have submitted legislation that would expand the definition of anti-Semitism used by the Education Department to include some anti-Israel protests. It appears targeted at Palestinian rights activism on campuses. (The Intercept describes how much discrimination Palestinian rights activists already face.)​

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nal-policies/?utm_term=.716772f554a3#comments
     
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  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Hey who said bipartisan legislation is dead.
     
  17. ceezmad

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    Update on Indonesia and blasphemy laws being used for political gain.

    http://www.economist.com/news/asia/...lerance-now-doubt-persecution-christian-mayor
     
  18. Dante

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    Isn't that already in effect here on BigSoccer in some forums? :cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious:
     
  19. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    How many attacks by "refugees" have occurred against German women in the last 365 days?
     
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  20. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Thanks for not answering my question. However, the German government has stated that violent crime rates - sexual assault in particular - have decreased in 2015 and 2016. While migrants may take up an increasing proportion of the dwindling number of cases, the absolute and relative numbers still declined.

    Now is it okay if you answer my question? How many right-wing attacks against Muslims have occurred in Germany?
     
  21. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Thank you for providing supporting documentation of my point.

    If there were no migrants raping German women, the overall rate would be significantly lower. Got it.
     
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  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Defending FOS, oh the dignity.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2017/01/marks-and-censor



    So by June we will know if the Slants are allowed to trademark their name, and perhaps if the redskins get to keep their trademark.
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    So the French Donald Trump, retweeted a few pictures of ISIS being the fvked up people that they are back in 2015, and well the French government did not like it, and have finally convinced the EU to lift her immunity to possibly face charges.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/marine-le-pen-loses-eu-parliament-immunity-105343461.html
     
  24. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    Other things you guys also have yet to understand:

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  25. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Another attack on free speach by the left.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ionality-a-religion.html?mid=twitter-share-di
     

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